Christian Nationalism's Popularity Should Be a Wake Up Call

[Guno צְבִי]

In America, we have seen suffering inflicted on refugees, boldfaced white supremacy and cruelty, attacks on gay and transgender Americans, open anti-Semitism, the destruction of Roe V. Wade, and even an attempted coup. These are all worrying examples of supposedly unthinkable developments this ideology serves. Whether it will enable further losses of civil rights and liberties, oppression, totalitarianism, and even war remains to be seen, but much will depend on our understanding of the very real nature of this threat.



A philosophy of “righteous persecution,” forwarded by Saint Augustine, creates justification for oppression, telling true believers that inflicting suffering on sinners is justified if it is for their own spiritual benefit or the benefit of the faith. This has legitimized unthinkable horrors, including enslavement, genocide, colonization, and tyrannical systems that haunt our past and our present.

Our modern moment is once more defined by these concepts. The warnings that used to be relegated to Sunday mornings fill the halls of Congress and are repeated 24 hours a day on Fox News. Individuals and families that would have probably sat across the aisle from me all those years ago are now regularly posting pictures of themselves brandishing semiautomatic weapons with biblical quotes in the captions. And that’s only when they’re not retweeting QAnon conspiracy theories that tell the same horror stories that inspired other authoritarian movements like Nazism, Fascism, and have led to one annihilation and war after another.



https://time.com/6250769/christian-nationalism-popularity-wake-up-call/

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Not all of these militias and Neo-Nazi and White Supremacist groups have a lot to do with Christianity. The danger is in the extremism and in the nationalism. But good points nonetheless. Vigilance is a necessity.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Not all of these militias and Neo-Nazi and White Supremacist groups have a lot to do with Christianity. The danger is in the extremism and in the nationalism. But good points nonetheless. Vigilance is a necessity.

And some people are clueless

Arby posted this yesterday

Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
He calls us white nationalists. I don't know about you, but I'm a white nationalist. I am white. I am loyal to my country, if you go by it's definition.
He insults our beliefs. Yet we don't insult his. He calls us dirty underbelly. One must get dirty to produce what's shipped to him by train or truck.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...r-%91Total-War%92/page3&p=5470802#post5470802



Christianity on display at Capitol riot sparks new debate


The Christian imagery and rhetoric on view during this month’s Capitol insurrection are sparking renewed debate about the societal effects of melding Christian faith with an exclusionary breed of nationalism.

The rioters who breached the Capitol on Jan. 6, leading to federal charges against more than 130 people so far, included several people carrying signs with Christian messages, and video showed one man in a fur hat and horns leading others in a prayer inside the Senate chamber. They also included multiple current or former members of the U.S. military or law enforcement, as well as a West Virginia state lawmaker.

The rise of what’s often called Christian nationalism has long prompted pushback from leaders in multiple denominations, with the Baptist Joint Committee on Religious Liberty forming the Christians Against Christian Nationalism coalition in 2019. But in the immediate wake of the insurrection, other Christian leaders spoke out to denounce what they saw as the misuse of their faith to justify a violent attack on a seat of government.

https://apnews.com/article/christianity-capitol-riot-6f13ef0030ad7b5a6f37a1e3b7b4c898

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Christian nationalism helped fuel Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol

Less portrayed in mainstream media, however, is the Christian hue of it all: the Capitol-focused Christian prayer rallies in December that propagated post-election lies; the Christian flags unfurled as rioters mounted the Capitol steps; the pastors and self-proclaimed apostles who exhorted the D.C. crowds of Trump supporters; the rioters speaking in tongues; the Proud Boys kneeling to pray before they went off to stomp some heads.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinio...0211104-suj4jzxwcrdxno3ltogp5hxkke-story.html

 

[ptif219]

Not all of these militias and Neo-Nazi and White Supremacist groups have a lot to do with Christianity. The danger is in the extremism and in the nationalism. But good points nonetheless. Vigilance is a necessity.

The so called Christian nationalism is not Christians. It is not in the bible it is cults and democrats doing it

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

And some people are clueless

Arby posted this yesterday

Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
He calls us white nationalists. I don't know about you, but I'm a white nationalist. I am white. I am loyal to my country, if you go by it's definition.
He insults our beliefs. Yet we don't insult his. He calls us dirty underbelly. One must get dirty to produce what's shipped to him by train or truck.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...r-%91Total-War%92/page3&p=5470802#post5470802



Christianity on display at Capitol riot sparks new debate


The Christian imagery and rhetoric on view during this month’s Capitol insurrection are sparking renewed debate about the societal effects of melding Christian faith with an exclusionary breed of nationalism.

The rioters who breached the Capitol on Jan. 6, leading to federal charges against more than 130 people so far, included several people carrying signs with Christian messages, and video showed one man in a fur hat and horns leading others in a prayer inside the Senate chamber. They also included multiple current or former members of the U.S. military or law enforcement, as well as a West Virginia state lawmaker.

The rise of what’s often called Christian nationalism has long prompted pushback from leaders in multiple denominations, with the Baptist Joint Committee on Religious Liberty forming the Christians Against Christian Nationalism coalition in 2019. But in the immediate wake of the insurrection, other Christian leaders spoke out to denounce what they saw as the misuse of their faith to justify a violent attack on a seat of government.

https://apnews.com/article/christianity-capitol-riot-6f13ef0030ad7b5a6f37a1e3b7b4c898

RB is about as Christian as your typical garden toad. He has his good points but he has his very bad points as well. Bigotry is one of them. We've all seen that.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

The so called Christian nationalism is not Christians. It is not in the bible it is cults and democrats doing it

It is not Democrats. Stop being a stupid idiot puppet. Thanks.

 

[ptif219]

It is not Democrats. Stop being a stupid idiot puppet. Thanks.

Why do you think it is no democrats. i thought democrats always claim many democrats are Christians

 

[RB 60]

RB is about as Christian as your typical garden toad. He has his good points but he has his very bad points as well. Bigotry is one of them. We've all seen that.

What am I bigoted of? I will try to do better.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

The so called Christian nationalism is not Christians. It is not in the bible it is cults and democrats doing it

Right! Hilarious!

 

[RB 60]

Right! Hilarious!

Every one of those people in those pictures are protesting peacefully. None are in the capitol, nor are they causing any type of disturbance.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Why do you think it is no democrats. i thought democrats always claim many democrats are Christians

Do you seriously believe that there are Democrat voters in militias, white supremacist groups, the Proud Boys, etc.?

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

What am I bigoted of? I will try to do better.

Last week you called a mixed-race person a "mongrel." You also think that every time someone legitimately criticizes something a so-called Christian is doing, that means that they hate ALL Christians.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Last week you called a mixed-race person a "mongrel." You also think that every time someone legitimately criticizes something a so-called Christian is doing, that means that they hate ALL Christians.

why do you hate all christians?

 

[LurchAddams]

In America, we have seen suffering inflicted on refugees, boldfaced white supremacy and cruelty, attacks on gay and transgender Americans, open anti-Semitism, the destruction of Roe V. Wade, and even an attempted coup. These are all worrying examples of supposedly unthinkable developments this ideology serves. Whether it will enable further losses of civil rights and liberties, oppression, totalitarianism, and even war remains to be seen, but much will depend on our understanding of the very real nature of this threat.



A philosophy of “righteous persecution,” forwarded by Saint Augustine, creates justification for oppression, telling true believers that inflicting suffering on sinners is justified if it is for their own spiritual benefit or the benefit of the faith. This has legitimized unthinkable horrors, including enslavement, genocide, colonization, and tyrannical systems that haunt our past and our present.

Our modern moment is once more defined by these concepts. The warnings that used to be relegated to Sunday mornings fill the halls of Congress and are repeated 24 hours a day on Fox News. Individuals and families that would have probably sat across the aisle from me all those years ago are now regularly posting pictures of themselves brandishing semiautomatic weapons with biblical quotes in the captions. And that’s only when they’re not retweeting QAnon conspiracy theories that tell the same horror stories that inspired other authoritarian movements like Nazism, Fascism, and have led to one annihilation and war after another.



https://time.com/6250769/christian-nationalism-popularity-wake-up-call/

twumpism is directly responsible for the escalation in white supremacy and resulting violence - in trump's speech after his trip down the escalator he declared how "Mexicans are rapists - they're bringing in drugs" and his repeated attacks on minorities and the media caused the escalation as well. trump voters were ordered by twump and his clown car not to trust the media, so they only trust sources like InforWars and rumors on FB.

 

[LurchAddams]

Christian nationalism helped fuel Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol

Less portrayed in mainstream media, however, is the Christian hue of it all: the Capitol-focused Christian prayer rallies in December that propagated post-election lies; the Christian flags unfurled as rioters mounted the Capitol steps; the pastors and self-proclaimed apostles who exhorted the D.C. crowds of Trump supporters; the rioters speaking in tongues; the Proud Boys kneeling to pray before they went off to stomp some heads.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinio...0211104-suj4jzxwcrdxno3ltogp5hxkke-story.html

Look at how some posters on this forum dehumanize minorities. They seem to believe that Tyre Nichols "had it coming".

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

why do you hate all christians?

Let's see your proof that I do, since you made the allegation. Or are you drunk and trolling again this morning? lol

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Look at how some posters on this forum dehumanize minorities. They seem to believe that Tyre Nichols "had it coming".

Ditto for George Floyd, ditto for just about any other person of color wrongfully killed by police. But poor (white) Ashlii, the J6 insurrectionist who broke through a locked door to get to the members of Congress with a mob at her back, is a martyred patriot.

 

[LurchAddams]

Ditto for George Floyd, ditto for just about any other person of color wrongfully killed by police. But poor (white) Ashlii, the J6 insurrectionist who broke through a locked door to get to the members of Congress with a mob at her back, is a martyred patriot.

Yep, trumpists believe they're under attack by people of color and that all is fair in war.

 

[RB 60]

Last week you called a mixed-race person a "mongrel." You also think that every time someone legitimately criticizes something a so-called Christian is doing, that means that they hate ALL Christians.

What did I tell you, mind your own fucking business. And don't tell me you didn't see that bigoted racist insult me for being adopted. he did many times.
BTW, I'll call that pathetic stalking piece of shit whatever I want to.