Clintons email issues not the same as Trumps scandal

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floridafan

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1Rangappa explained that there are massive differences between Clinton and Trump, namely that Clinton was still the Secretary of State at the time that she was found to have classified emails on her personal server. Clinton never had hard-copy documents.

2Trump had hundreds of physical documents he would have had to remove from a "classified" and "top secret" location in the White House and take them to his room and ultimately to boxes that movers took to Florida.

3. Trump doesn't have any kind of security clearance. As a president, he was granted the ability to view top secret information. Trump lost that ability to have top secret or classified information after he left office.

4. Clinton was still in office and still had a TS/SCI clearance level that allowed her to view such documents when it was discovered she had classified information on her personal server

5 In Trump's case, he spent eight months refusing to hand the government documents over to the National Archives.


6. When Clinton was found to have the five classified emails she cooperated with investigators, and worked to ensure that they were cleared from all of her systems.
 
The Trump-licans just don't have much ammunition to counter the scum that has been revealed about Trump, so they're making as much noise as they can with these rather insignificant issues of the Hillary server and the Hunter Biden lap top situation.
 
Trumpet said:
The Trump-licans just don't have much ammunition to counter the scum that has been revealed about Trump, so they're making as much noise as they can with these rather insignificant issues of the Hillary server and the Hunter Biden lap top situation.
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Every day a different excuse, beginning way back in the beginning when Trump said the documents were planted by the FBI. Since then there have been at least a dozen or so other excuses, hoping something will stick.
 
floridafan said:
Every day a different excuse, beginning way back in the beginning when Trump said the documents were planted by the FBI. Since then there have been at least a dozen or so other excuses, hoping something will stick.
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Trump is desperate, what else can he do????????????
 
floridafan said:
1Rangappa explained that there are massive differences between Clinton and Trump, namely that Clinton was still the Secretary of State at the time that she was found to have classified emails on her personal server. Clinton never had hard-copy documents.

2Trump had hundreds of physical documents he would have had to remove from a "classified" and "top secret" location in the White House and take them to his room and ultimately to boxes that movers took to Florida.

3. Trump doesn't have any kind of security clearance. As a president, he was granted the ability to view top secret information. Trump lost that ability to have top secret or classified information after he left office.

4. Clinton was still in office and still had a TS/SCI clearance level that allowed her to view such documents when it was discovered she had classified information on her personal server

5 In Trump's case, he spent eight months refusing to hand the government documents over to the National Archives.


6. When Clinton was found to have the five classified emails she cooperated with investigators, and worked to ensure that they were cleared from all of her systems.
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1. Doesn't matter. Mishandling classified material is a crime. https://www.voanews.com/a/fbi-justi...e-misuse-of-classified-documents/6694887.html
FBI, Justice Department Routinely Prosecute Misuse of Classified Documents

2. Correct. Trump committed a crime. Ironically, as part of his "Lock her up" agenda, Trump signed a bill toughening punishment of such crimes...laws of which he now falls under. https://www.businessinsider.com/law-trump-signed-2018-may-punish-him-classified-info-2022-8
As president, Trump approved a law increasing penalties for mishandling classified info. It could come back to bite him.

3. Correct.

4. Partly correct; Hillary had clearance to have the material but violated the law when she put TS, S and confidential material on her unsecure server. She then obstructed justice by deleting the evidence off her server and claimed it was only personal information.

5. Correct. Trump is a criminal. Lock him up.

6. Hillary only did that after she was caught due to Wiener's laptop.
 
floridafan said:
1Rangappa explained that there are massive differences between Clinton and Trump, namely that Clinton was still the Secretary of State at the time that she was found to have classified emails on her personal server. Clinton never had hard-copy documents.

2Trump had hundreds of physical documents he would have had to remove from a "classified" and "top secret" location in the White House and take them to his room and ultimately to boxes that movers took to Florida.

3. Trump doesn't have any kind of security clearance. As a president, he was granted the ability to view top secret information. Trump lost that ability to have top secret or classified information after he left office.

4. Clinton was still in office and still had a TS/SCI clearance level that allowed her to view such documents when it was discovered she had classified information on her personal server

5 In Trump's case, he spent eight months refusing to hand the government documents over to the National Archives.


6. When Clinton was found to have the five classified emails she cooperated with investigators, and worked to ensure that they were cleared from all of her systems.
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I watched all eleven hours of Hillary's testimony and hearing. It came down to 3 questionable emails out of all the talk about TOP SECRET emails being handled on her server.

Then after those 3 EMAILS in question turned out to be not even Top secret or even secret documents, Kevin McCarthy admitted that the the trial served it's purpose to take down Hillary and ruin her chances for running for president.

That is when I was reminded that the REPUBLICANS were a corrupt party and a basket of Deplorables!

SO the entire accusations were nothing more than a Hoax, as Hillary never sent or received ANY, ZILCH, NOTTA, NOTTA EVEN A ONEA OFFICIAL SECRET document on her server.

What a scam!

Now when I see Donald Trump behind bars for his traitorous crimes- I AM GOING TO SAY- JUSTICE WAS SERVED!

And since Donald Trump pushed the same lies about Hillary and her server, and was the benefactor for the scam, SERVES HIM AND THE REPUBLICANS WHAT THEY DESERVE.

Hillary will have the last laugh now!

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no they were far worse as you didnt even have to gain physical access to the data. It was accessible to (and accessed by) any semi competent hacker over the internet.
 
floridafan said:
1Rangappa explained that there are massive differences between Clinton and Trump, namely that Clinton was still the Secretary of State at the time that she was found to have classified emails on her personal server. Clinton never had hard-copy documents.

2Trump had hundreds of physical documents he would have had to remove from a "classified" and "top secret" location in the White House and take them to his room and ultimately to boxes that movers took to Florida.

3. Trump doesn't have any kind of security clearance. As a president, he was granted the ability to view top secret information. Trump lost that ability to have top secret or classified information after he left office.

4. Clinton was still in office and still had a TS/SCI clearance level that allowed her to view such documents when it was discovered she had classified information on her personal server

5 In Trump's case, he spent eight months refusing to hand the government documents over to the National Archives.


6. When Clinton was found to have the five classified emails she cooperated with investigators, and worked to ensure that they were cleared from all of her systems.
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you don't seem too sure.
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It is bullshit, they know it is, but it is all they got

The FBI determined upon review that they could not charge Clinton with any crime, that she had not broken any existing laws, which was later confirmed as correct based upon an IG investigation
 
archives said:
It is bullshit, they know it is, but it is all they got

The FBI determined upon review that they could not charge Clinton with any crime, that she had not broken any existing laws, which was later confirmed as correct based upon an IG investigation
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Sorry, dude, but you are wrong. There's a big difference between saying a person is 100% innocent and that the prosecution didn't feel they can successfully prosecute a case.

No doubt she was helped by the facts 1) she was the Democratic nominee running against the biggest POS the Republicans ever nominated and 2) overseen by a Democratic President and a Democratic AG.

Remember the "accidental" private Tarmac Meeting between Loretta and Slick Willy? I do. :rofl2:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...ch-meeting-phoenix-airport-details/703771002/
Lynch, according to her interview in the report, said she felt increasingly uncomfortable as the minutes ticked by and Bill Clinton showed no signs of leaving.

Meanwhile, her aides, sitting in a vehicle on the Sky Harbor tarmac became fidgety, the report says. Finally, one aide bolted from the vehicle and announced she was heading into the plane.

That meeting at the Phoenix airport would prove consequential. At the time, Lynch's Department of Justice was investigating presidential candidate Hillary Clinton over her handling of classified information sent through emails.

The 20 minutes with Bill Clinton would cement then-FBI Director James Comey's decision that he, and not Lynch, would be the person to publicly announce that Clinton would not face criminal charges. Comey, in that July statement, said that while Clinton did not break the law, her handling of classified material was "extremely careless."
 
archives said:
It is bullshit, they know it is, but it is all they got

The FBI determined upon review that they could not charge Clinton with any crime, that she had not broken any existing laws, which was later confirmed as correct based upon an IG investigation
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watching both the left and the right unequivocally excuse, explain, and/or dismiss OBVIOUS law breaking by elected officials, based solely upon the fact that they have a specific political party letter after their name, spells DOOM for out nation................

any person with a lick of common sense and an ounce of intelligence could clearly see that Comey wordsmithed a bullshit excuse for hillary to avoid charging her with any criminal activity or crime........watching you fools make excuses and explanations over this and trump is more indicative of your willingness to accept watching them kill and eat babies on camera and still vote for them...............
 
floridafan said:
1Rangappa explained that there are massive differences between Clinton and Trump, namely that Clinton was still the Secretary of State at the time that she was found to have classified emails on her personal server. Clinton never had hard-copy documents.

2Trump had hundreds of physical documents he would have had to remove from a "classified" and "top secret" location in the White House and take them to his room and ultimately to boxes that movers took to Florida.

3. Trump doesn't have any kind of security clearance. As a president, he was granted the ability to view top secret information. Trump lost that ability to have top secret or classified information after he left office.

4. Clinton was still in office and still had a TS/SCI clearance level that allowed her to view such documents when it was discovered she had classified information on her personal server

5 In Trump's case, he spent eight months refusing to hand the government documents over to the National Archives.


6. When Clinton was found to have the five classified emails she cooperated with investigators, and worked to ensure that they were cleared from all of her systems.
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Clinton immediately turned over all the top secret documents.
 
Jarod said:
Likely because she got good legal advice to not break the law by obstructing an investigation.
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Hillary was not only a lawyer, she helped write the documentation laws post-Watergate. Hillary was smarter than Bill and, even though she was highly unethical, she knows where the lines were drawn. The fact she drifted over them is true. Hillary Clinton broke the law by willfully putting classified material on her private, unsecure server.

LWers can bitch and moan all they like that the Republicans have been after her since 1992, and that's true, but I've always distrusted her because she's unethical and a liar.

Consider the differences between Hillary's mishandling of classified material and Bill's actions in office to Trump and most people will see it's a matter of degree, not right and wrong because all three of them are liars and criminals.

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Dutch Uncle said:
Hillary was not only a lawyer, she helped write the documentation laws post-Watergate. Hillary was smarter than Bill and, even though she was highly unethical, she knows where the lines were drawn. The fact she drifted over them is true. Hillary Clinton broke the law by willfully putting classified material on her private, unsecure server.

LWers can bitch and moan all they like that the Republicans have been after her since 1992, and that's true, but I've always distrusted her because she's unethical and a liar.

Consider the differences between Hillary's mishandling of classified material and Bill's actions in office to Trump and most people will see it's a matter of degree, not right and wrong because all three of them are liars and criminals.

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I can agree, but Hillary knew where to stop, and there are lines she wont cross, if only because she is smart enough to know she will get caught.

Trump almost has a pathological drive to pick unnecessary fights and push the line further and further. It seemed Bill Clinton had that, but with sex, not top secret documents.
 
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