Collective Solutions Best for Public Health

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Minerva

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Why use a collective solution for public health? Start with pandemics, which happen far more often than we would like. No too many people survived the Black Death of the 1300’s. One town in Britain that did survive had a collective solution, quarantine. The strictest quarantine was instituted for the entire town. No goods or people allowed in (and no fleas, or flying mucus), no goods allowed out. Individualism is not much use for fighting communicable diseases, especially if you don’t know how your current pandemic disease is transmitted. And there will be a pandemic disease, sometime. All bacteria, taken together, weigh more than all humans, taken together. Some bacteria and viruses, too think we a tasty snack.

Secondly, prevent. Wash your hands, teach your kids to wash their hands and say something condemning the person who walks out of the public restroom with unwashed hands.

Again, the question is outcomes. I read a Krauthammer piece about what would happen if all possible preventative heart tests were given, and the bang for the buck was dismal, which was Krauthammer’s point. So pick the most effective ones, Mr. Krauthammer.

Use those relatively few preventative tests that have greatest bang for the buck. Don’t smoke, if you can, and keep your weight down, if you can. Take care of your children, including vaccinations. Depending on herd immunity because you do not want the possible bad outcomes of vaccinations for your own kids is a violation of personal responsibility, hoping others are more responsible than you are.
 
Minerva said:
Why use a collective solution for public health? Start with pandemics, which happen far more often than we would like. No too many people survived the Black Death of the 1300’s. One town in Britain that did survive had a collective solution, quarantine. The strictest quarantine was instituted for the entire town. No goods or people allowed in (and no fleas, or flying mucus), no goods allowed out. Individualism is not much use for fighting communicable diseases, especially if you don’t know how your current pandemic disease is transmitted. And there will be a pandemic disease, sometime. All bacteria, taken together, weigh more than all humans, taken together. Some bacteria and viruses, too think we a tasty snack.

Secondly, prevent. Wash your hands, teach your kids to wash their hands and say something condemning the person who walks out of the public restroom with unwashed hands.

Again, the question is outcomes. I read a Krauthammer piece about what would happen if all possible preventative heart tests were given, and the bang for the buck was dismal, which was Krauthammer’s point. So pick the most effective ones, Mr. Krauthammer.

Use those relatively few preventative tests that have greatest bang for the buck. Don’t smoke, if you can, and keep your weight down, if you can. Take care of your children, including vaccinations. Depending on herd immunity because you do not want the possible bad outcomes of vaccinations for your own kids is a violation of personal responsibility, hoping others are more responsible than you are.
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Collective solutions only work when all individuals play by the same rules. Our leaders routinely exempt themselves from the rules they put on everyone else. OUr society is a dysfunctional engine of abuse, not a thriving collective.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Collective solutions only work when all individuals play by the same rules. Our leaders routinely exempt themselves from the rules they put on everyone else. OUr society is a dysfunctional engine of abuse, not a thriving collective.
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so provide the same coverage for all citizens and legal aliens that federal employees receive...of course where will we get all the medical people and facilities...

oh well
 
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