Criminal charge in BP pollution case first of many?

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By arresting a former BP engineer Tuesday, federal prosecutors for the first time showed their hand in the Gulf oil spill case, saying they were probing whether BP PLC and its employees broke the law by intentionally lowballing how much oil was spewing from its out-of-control well.


In an affidavit, the U.S. Department of Justice said it was investigating whether BP and its employees broke the law "by intentionally understating" how much oil was leaking.


Legal experts said this was likely just the first move by the Justice Department.


The federal agency made it clear the investigation still is ongoing and suggested more people could be arrested.



http://www.timesunion.com/news/arti...BP-s-spill-response-3507979.php#ixzz1tEWUXgH7



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By arresting a former BP engineer Tuesday, federal prosecutors for the first time showed their hand in the Gulf oil spill case, saying they were probing whether BP PLC and its employees broke the law by intentionally lowballing how much oil was spewing from its out-of-control well.


In an affidavit, the U.S. Department of Justice said it was investigating whether BP and its employees broke the law "by intentionally understating" how much oil was leaking.


Legal experts said this was likely just the first move by the Justice Department.


The federal agency made it clear the investigation still is ongoing and suggested more people could be arrested.



http://www.timesunion.com/news/arti...BP-s-spill-response-3507979.php#ixzz1tEWUXgH7



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took them long enough, but lets hope that the people responsible get nailed
 
took them long enough, but lets hope that the people responsible get nailed

It seems that the concept of an accident is alien to modern culture. Deep water drilling is at the cutting edge of technology but the "where there's a claim there is some blame" culture is deep rooted in Western culture, especially the highly litigious US.
 
By arresting a former BP engineer Tuesday, federal prosecutors for the first time showed their hand in the Gulf oil spill case, saying they were probing whether BP PLC and its employees broke the law by intentionally lowballing how much oil was spewing from its out-of-control well.


In an affidavit, the U.S. Department of Justice said it was investigating whether BP and its employees broke the law "by intentionally understating" how much oil was leaking.


Legal experts said this was likely just the first move by the Justice Department.


The federal agency made it clear the investigation still is ongoing and suggested more people could be arrested.



http://www.timesunion.com/news/arti...BP-s-spill-response-3507979.php#ixzz1tEWUXgH7

I don't suppose you need to worry as your mother drives you to school, maybe she should ask you to pay for the fuel costs!
 
It seems that the concept of an accident is alien to modern culture. Deep water drilling is at the cutting edge of technology but the "where there's a claim there is some blame" culture is deep rooted in Western culture, especially the highly litigious US.

was it an accident that the blowout preventer failed

or that 13 people were killed due to faulty piping
 
was it an accident that the blowout preventer failed

or that 13 people were killed due to faulty piping

Well for a start it was 11 people not 13. As for the other issues, there are the small matters of the faulty blowout preventer supplied by Cameron, the piss poor cementing job performed by Halliburton and the lax regime run by Transocean.
 
Well for a start it was 11 people not 13. As for the other issues, there are the small matters of the faulty blowout preventer supplied by Cameron, the piss poor cementing job performed by Halliburton and the lax regime run by Transocean.

that is still 11 too many

let us hope that all of the companies involved get nailed

it seems that there is enough malfeasance involved that more criminal and civil complaints should be filed

however, your pet bp is sufficiently to blame to deserve everything that gets thrown at it
 
It seems that the concept of an accident is alien to modern culture. Deep water drilling is at the cutting edge of technology but the "where there's a claim there is some blame" culture is deep rooted in Western culture, especially the highly litigious US.

not really, only far left liberals like legion, don etc....can't comprehend the idea of an accident. you're right about the US being highly litigious, though, to our credit, we are working on the system and many states have implemented alternative resolution programs and they are mandated in virtually every case now.
 
that is still 11 too many

let us hope that all of the companies involved get nailed

it seems that there is enough malfeasance involved that more criminal and civil complaints should be filed

however, your pet bp is sufficiently to blame to deserve everything that gets thrown at it

So do you think that BP et al deliberately allowed the situation to happen? To my mind it was a co-incidence of a number of issues that came together to cause a tragic accident.
 
that is still 11 too many

let us hope that all of the companies involved get nailed

it seems that there is enough malfeasance involved that more criminal and civil complaints should be filed

however, your pet bp is sufficiently to blame to deserve everything that gets thrown at it

I will remind you once again what happened with Piper Alpha where 167 men died. Occidental Petroleum literally got away with murder, in my view.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_Alpha
 
It seems that the concept of an accident is alien to modern culture. Deep water drilling is at the cutting edge of technology but the "where there's a claim there is some blame" culture is deep rooted in Western culture, especially the highly litigious US.

OH really!!
Gee; who was it that was trying to hold new owners responsbile for something that happened in India, prior to them buying the company?
OH, that's right. It was YOU, you fucking crybaby hypocrite.
 
OH really!!
Gee; who was it that was trying to hold new owners responsbile for something that happened in India, prior to them buying the company?
OH, that's right. It was YOU, you fucking crybaby hypocrite.

Building a dangerous chemical plant next to a hugely populated area is hardly in the same league as a drilling platform way out in the Gulf. A chemical plant can be built anywhere whereas oil drilling has to go where the oil is, hardly that difficult to understand.
 
Building a dangerous chemical plant next to a hugely populated area is hardly in the same league as a drilling platform way out in the Gulf. A chemical plant can be built anywhere whereas oil drilling has to go where the oil is, hardly that difficult to understand.

Who ALLOWED them to build it there and what in the world does that have to do with you wanting the new owners to be held liable for something they had no part in?
 
Who ALLOWED them to build it there and what in the world does that have to do with you wanting the new owners to be held liable for something they had no part in?

Dow is hardly an innocent, they have always denied their culpability for Agent Orange in Vietnam, Cambodia and Korea. The only reason that Union Carbide sold their assets to Dow was to avoid further litigation over the 25,000 deaths and 500,000 injuries. I have never considered $400 million adequate compensation for what was nothing less than a holocaust!! That amounted to an average of less than a thousand dollars per person, the shrimps in the Gulf got more than that!!
 
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Dow is hardly an innocent, they have always denied their culpability for Agent Orange in Vietnam, Cambodia and Korea. The only reason that Union Carbide sold their assets to Dow was to avoid further litigation over the 25,000 deaths and 500,000 injuries. I have never considered $400 million adequate compensation for what was nothing less than a holocaust!! That amounted to an average of less than a thousand dollars per person, the shrimps in the Gulf got more than that!!

GAWD, how many times are you going to jump around the board?
Now you want Dow to be responsible for what Carbide did; because of what Dow did during the 60's.
Once again; the compensation was agreed upon, by all parties, but you want to turn the clock back.
 
GAWD, how many times are you going to jump around the board?
Now you want Dow to be responsible for what Carbide did; because of what Dow did during the 60's.
Once again; the compensation was agreed upon, by all parties, but you want to turn the clock back.

The majority of the use of Agent Orange was in the '70s not the '60s, which doesn't detract from the point that Union Carbide sold up to avoid further litigation. It was a typically disgusting deal designed specifically for that purpose, Dow bought Union Carbide for a song because it was so tainted by the Bhopal disaster. In any case, there have been many examples in recent history where deals have been revisited and overturned.

Of course there is another consideration, which is the moral one but that will probably fall on deaf ears.
 
The majority of the use of Agent Orange was in the '70s not the '60s, which doesn't detract from the point that Union Carbide sold up to avoid further litigation. It was a typically disgusting deal designed specifically for that purpose, Dow bought Union Carbide for a song because it was so tainted by the Bhopal disaster. In any case, there have been many examples in recent history where deals have been revisited and overturned.

Of course there is another consideration, which is the moral one but that will probably fall on deaf ears.

Show me one case where the "deal was revisited and overturned" and the new owners were then held liable.
Without the liability being part of the deal when the sale was made.
 
As I remember the events there wasn't anything accidental about it.

In the push to finish the well, drilling mud was pulled and sea-water was used before the bore was fully cemented.

The drillhead hit gas and the seawater could not contain the pressure.

This deviation from accepted drilling practice resulted in the blowout.

They also knew there were problems with the BOP five hours before the blowout. The annular seal was malfunctioning and every pre-cementing test they ran resulted in unexpected losses or gains in liquid . . .
 
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No surprise that British Pollution shill Tommy TuTu tries to deflect the discussion each time the subject is raised.

Will a warrant have his name on it soon?



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