APP - Crooked Hillary and proof of Pay for Play II

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midcan5

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One would hope the fact seventeen posters are banned from the original thread is an acknowledgement that while this donor was only ok'ed for the national security board, the same poster wants a reality show actor and lying flip flopping buffoon elected to the highest office in the nation. If that doesn't take the cake, I have no idea what would?

"There’s a very good reason that this is the case: The American Right has become willfully disengaged from its fellow citizens thanks to a wonderful virtual-reality machine in which conservatives, both elite and grassroots, can believe anything they wish, no matter how at odds it is with reality." http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/donald-trump-mainstream-conservative/

Trump the ripoff artist Trump U

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/trump-ripoff-artist-article-1.2656336

Lying Trump

"All of that is horrifying, but arguably scariest of all is his aggressive contempt for the truth. All politicians spin and twist facts to some extent, but Trump’s lies are so epic and recurring as to put him in a whole other universe of dissembling — a place where facts are meaningless and the truth can be anything he wants it to be at that particular moment."

"Having as President a man who treats rumor as gospel and refuses to acknowledge flat falsehoods would be disastrous for the country. A President has to sort through complicated, competing claims, figure out the best course of action and then make a convincing case to the Congress and the country. Trump’s track record suggests he is simply incapable of this kind of mental labor."

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/max-boot-donald-trump-lies-flatly-disqualifying-article-1.2632133


Trump University

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/03/the...e_as_fraudulent_as_the_school_itself_partner/

Trump dictator

"No, this is called “authoritarianism.” It’s what Berlusconi sounded like, what Chávez sounded like and what Perón sounded like — for that matter, it’s what Sulla and Caesar and the others who helped destroy the world’s first great republic sounded like: I am bigger than the law, I AM THE LAW.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...16/05/29/on-donald-trump-and-the-rule-of-law/

The Trump conspiracy guide

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conte...nd-counting-definitive-trump-conspiracy-guide
 
Celticguy said:
Y'all give up modding app ?
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Not sure what you mean?

John Stewart Mill on censoring opinion and discussion. Since Mill already covered topic, there is no need for me to add my brilliance to another brilliant thinker.

"But the peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error."

"First: the opinion which it is attempted to suppress by authority may possibly be true. Those who desire to suppress it, of course deny its truth; but they are not infallible. They have no authority to decide the question for all mankind, and exclude every other person from the means of judging. To refuse a hearing to an opinion, because they are sure that it is false, is to assume that their certainty is the same thing as absolute certainty. All silencing of discussion is an assumption of infallibility. Its condemnation may be allowed to rest on this common argument, not the worse for being common."

"Let us now pass to the second division of the argument, and dismissing the supposition that any of the received opinions may be false, let us assume them to be true, and examine into the worth of the manner in which they are likely to be held, when their truth is not freely and openly canvassed. However unwillingly a person who has a strong opinion may admit the possibility that his opinion may be false, he ought to be moved by the consideration that however true it may be, if it is not fully, frequently, and fearlessly discussed, it will be held as a dead dogma, not a living truth." John Stewart Mill http://www.bartleby.com/130/2.html
 
Celticguy said:
What part of above petty politics do you not understand ?
You did agree to it to be granted access so it's not like you were ignorant of the rules.
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Celticguy, Oh I see. But I joined this crew of posters long ago when it was politics dot com followed by ???. Sometime around 2002? Maybe earlier? Not sure how many of the old crew still exist. I know my conservative Indian friend, a fellow vet died from cancer, Stories was part of his name. No one was ever banned from any discussion. Having been banned from redstate, and I think they call it debatepolicy, I am well aware of the conservative wish to manage and control discussion. Information is knowledge and power. As a liberal I don't agree with censorship, and as I have written in many places I write for those who still ponder and hopefully still think. There is a reason dictatorships want to control information, they need to control choice. When a site becomes a circle jerk of the same voices it loses its usefulness in an open society.
 
I'm not getting any substantive examples of Hillary being dishonest. Of course right wing corporate paid media published lots of nonsense and even makes stuff up. So let's check out crooked Trump, here is a presidential candidate who wants to remove the rights of Americans. That goes beyond crooked to treasonous.

"Yet, Mr. Trump has vowed to choose Supreme Court justices who would overturn marriage equality, and he supports the deceptively named First Amendment Defense Act, an effort to approve discrimination against gay and transgender people nationwide under the guise of religious freedom. And Mr. Trump backtracked from his statement that transgender people should be able to use the restroom consistent with their gender identity after Senator Ted Cruz used his words to attack him during the nomination fight.

That restrooms have become such a fixation, particularly at the state level, is a worrying reminder of the entrenched stigma the community continues to face. The loudest advocates of this odious effort have been Gov. Pat McCrory of North Carolina and Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas, who has worked in lock step with the Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton. Meanwhile, Gov. Phil Bryant of Mississippi in April signed into law a bill that allows discrimination against L.G.B.T. people in schools and the workplace."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/15/opinion/the-corrosive-politics-that-threaten-lgbt-americans.html
 
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