Cyber Hate

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There's an interesting piece in today's NY Times about a debate taking place in the blogsphere over where to draw the line on harrassment, threats, and the like. I figure eventually, someone will end up dead, and then there is going to be new legislation. Which is a shame because if the authorities took this stuff seriously in the first place, we wouldn't need new legislation. There are already laws against this kind of behavior on the books.

But what I wonder is, what is it about the internet that causes obsessions and hatred? Or is it, that it's not the internet at all, but it's that there are a fair number of sick people in this world, and now they have a place to go to play out that sickness? That's what i have always wondered, because believe me, I have seen some shit.


Distraught over the threats and manipulated photos of her that were posted on other critical sites — including one that depicted her head next to a noose — Ms. Sierra canceled a speaking appearance at a trade show and asked the local police for help in finding the source of the threats. She also said that she was considering giving up blogging altogether.

In an interview, she dismissed the argument that cyberbullying is so common that she should overlook it. “I can’t believe how many people are saying to me, ‘Get a life, this is the Internet,’ ” she said. “If that’s the case, how will we ever recognize a real threat?”

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People who disagree with his politics frequently leave harassing comments on his site. But the situation reached a new low last month, when an anonymous opponent started a blog in Mr. Silverstein’s name that included photos of Mr. Silverstein in a pornographic context.

“I’ve been assaulted and harassed online for four years,” he said. “Most of it I can take in stride. But you just never get used to that level of hatred.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/09/technology/09blog.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
 
I think it ties in with the increasingly self centered selfish attitudes of people.

We are just getting meaner, not nicer.

And yes it does give a pretty much anonymous outlet for fantasies and hatreds that most would not dare publicly expose. ie my being functionally an Atheist. Only a very few know outside of the net world for fear of retaliation from those good hearted forgiving Cristians.
 
I think they feel protected behind "anonymity" and therefore feel more free to make a nuisance of themselves. Plus, most people would just say, "It's the internet!" and just move on, letting these people get on with their threats and harassment.
 
I think it ties in with the increasingly self centered selfish attitudes of people.

We are just getting meaner, not nicer.

And yes it does give a pretty much anonymous outlet for fantasies and hatreds that most would not dare publicly expose. ie my being functionally an Atheist. Only a very few know outside of the net world for fear of retaliation from those good hearted forgiving Cristians.

LOL. I know you're not kidding about retaliation from Christians, but it's funny.
 
I think they feel protected behind "anonymity" and therefore feel more free to make a nuisance of themselves. Plus, most people would just say, "It's the internet!" and just move on, letting these people get on with their threats and harassment.

The best thing to do is to walk away and move on, if you can. But these bloggers are in a bad position because, having a blog, that's tougher to do. It's just crazy though.
 
But what I wonder is, what is it about the internet that causes obsessions and hatred? Or is it, that it's not the internet at all, but it's that there are a fair number of sick people in this world, and now they have a place to go to play out that sickness?


Short answer: anonymity. The web inspires sick people to act like total assholes, because it affords them anonymity. Most of this harrassment crap, they would never do in real life, or in public. They'd be to cowardly to do it publically.
 
The best thing to do is to walk away and move on, if you can. But these bloggers are in a bad position because, having a blog, that's tougher to do. It's just crazy though.
I don't necessarily agree. Would it be the best thing to just "move on" if somebody were equally harassing you in RL? The best way to teach people to behave responsibly on a large scale is to have consequences for negative action. If everybody just ignores them and moves on then they feel justified in their attacks.
 
I don't necessarily agree. Would it be the best thing to just "move on" if somebody were equally harassing you in RL? The best way to teach people to behave responsibly on a large scale is to have consequences for negative action. If everybody just ignores them and moves on then they feel justified in their attacks.

You make a good point.
 
A quandry, Ignoring the problem does not work too well, and neither does arguments.....A point for a malicious virius as punishment ? But then who would be correct in using it, we all feel that we are "correct".....
 
the advantage of the internet is that if you are threatened and you want yourself removed from the situation, for the most part you can slide right back into anonymity and move on physically unharmed with no consequences other than being a little creeped out and not being in a chatroom or message board you liked. However, if you are unable to reclaim your anonymity (sp?) for whatever reason, I think you have no choice but to alert the authorities.

If a person who's threatening you can't follow-up because they don't know who you are or where you live or what you look like, I think for sanity reasons you should learn a lesson and move on. Is it going to be worth to invite this person into your RL just to have a citation or something bought against them? I understand the principals behind reporting such behaviour, but I don't think its very practical.
 
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