Democrat Sen. John Fetterman blasts party brand as ‘toxic’ after years of ‘shaming and scolding’ voters

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Democrat Sen. John Fetterman blasts party brand as ‘toxic’ after years of ‘shaming and scolding’ voters​

Pennsylvania Democratic Sen. John Fetterman agreed that his party’s brand has grown “toxic” after years of “shaming and scolding” voters and even questioned if they can turn it around.

While appearing on the “Somebody’s Gotta Win” podcast on Thursday, host and journalist Tara Palmeri asked Fetterman about how even insiders within the Democratic Party acknowledged the damage their image has taken since the 2024 election.

Fetterman reiterated his belief that the party did it to itself by constantly attacking and demeaning their opponents.

“I think their primary currency was shaming and scolding and talking down to people and telling them ‘Hey, I know better than you, or you’re dopes, or you’re a bro, or you’re ignorant or, how can you be this dumb? I can’t imagine it. And then, by the way, they’re fascists. How can you vote for that?’” Fetterman said.

He continued, “And you know, when you’re in a state like Pennsylvania, I know and I love people that voted for Trump, and they’re not fascist. They don’t support insurrection and those things. And if you go to an extreme, and you become a boutique kind of proposition, then you’re going to lose the argument. And we have done that.”

Fetterman described the 2024 election as a “gut-check kind of vote” where Americans largely focused on who was “going to protect or project [their] personal view of the American way of life,” rather than any specific policy.

With the recent Democratic National Committee (DNC) election, Fetterman admitted he was “not sure” if it was even possible to win back those voters, particularly among men.....
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!. What do you think about Fetterman?
2. Is he correct?
3. Did his stroke affect his politics?

 

[anonymoose]

!. What do you think about Fetterman?

Poster boy for how stroke victims can recover.

2. Is he correct?

Yes but dims will castigate him anyway and double down on their insanity. See soy boy @DavidHogg

Why some centrist Dems fear David Hogg could ‘do more harm than good.’​

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3. Did his stroke affect his politics?

No. The election did.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Democrat Sen. John Fetterman blasts party brand as ‘toxic’ after years of ‘shaming and scolding’ voters​

Pennsylvania Democratic Sen. John Fetterman agreed that his party’s brand has grown “toxic” after years of “shaming and scolding” voters and even questioned if they can turn it around.

While appearing on the “Somebody’s Gotta Win” podcast on Thursday, host and journalist Tara Palmeri asked Fetterman about how even insiders within the Democratic Party acknowledged the damage their image has taken since the 2024 election.

Fetterman reiterated his belief that the party did it to itself by constantly attacking and demeaning their opponents.

“I think their primary currency was shaming and scolding and talking down to people and telling them ‘Hey, I know better than you, or you’re dopes, or you’re a bro, or you’re ignorant or, how can you be this dumb? I can’t imagine it. And then, by the way, they’re fascists. How can you vote for that?’” Fetterman said.

He continued, “And you know, when you’re in a state like Pennsylvania, I know and I love people that voted for Trump, and they’re not fascist. They don’t support insurrection and those things. And if you go to an extreme, and you become a boutique kind of proposition, then you’re going to lose the argument. And we have done that.”

Fetterman described the 2024 election as a “gut-check kind of vote” where Americans largely focused on who was “going to protect or project [their] personal view of the American way of life,” rather than any specific policy.

With the recent Democratic National Committee (DNC) election, Fetterman admitted he was “not sure” if it was even possible to win back those voters, particularly among men.....
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!. What do you think about Fetterman?
2. Is he correct?
3. Did his stroke affect his politics?

Remember all the MAGAts who claimed Fetterman was a braindead zombie? What changed? /sarcasm

 

[AProudLefty]

Remember all the MAGAts who claimed Fetterman was a braindead zombie? What changed? /sarcasm

They are now saying you must be a braindead zombie to join the cult.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

They are now saying you must be a braindead zombie to join the cult.

MAGAts are funny. Stupid, but funny.

 

[AProudLefty]

MAGAts are funny. Stupid, but funny.

 

[Hume]

Fetterman is an asshole. PA should recall him.

 

[Lionfish]

Fetterman worried Democrats haven’t learned from 2024 after DNC election

Fetterman worried Democrats haven't learned from 2024 after DNC election - Washington Examiner

The Pennsylvania senator also agreed that his party is "toxic" and had a hard time connecting with voters in swing states like his home state.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

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Democrat Sen. John Fetterman blasts party brand as ‘toxic’ after years of ‘shaming and scolding’ voters​

Pennsylvania Democratic Sen. John Fetterman agreed that his party’s brand has grown “toxic” after years of “shaming and scolding” voters and even questioned if they can turn it around.

While appearing on the “Somebody’s Gotta Win” podcast on Thursday, host and journalist Tara Palmeri asked Fetterman about how even insiders within the Democratic Party acknowledged the damage their image has taken since the 2024 election.

Fetterman reiterated his belief that the party did it to itself by constantly attacking and demeaning their opponents.

“I think their primary currency was shaming and scolding and talking down to people and telling them ‘Hey, I know better than you, or you’re dopes, or you’re a bro, or you’re ignorant or, how can you be this dumb? I can’t imagine it. And then, by the way, they’re fascists. How can you vote for that?’” Fetterman said.

He continued, “And you know, when you’re in a state like Pennsylvania, I know and I love people that voted for Trump, and they’re not fascist. They don’t support insurrection and those things. And if you go to an extreme, and you become a boutique kind of proposition, then you’re going to lose the argument. And we have done that.”

Fetterman described the 2024 election as a “gut-check kind of vote” where Americans largely focused on who was “going to protect or project [their] personal view of the American way of life,” rather than any specific policy.

With the recent Democratic National Committee (DNC) election, Fetterman admitted he was “not sure” if it was even possible to win back those voters, particularly among men.....
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!. What do you think about Fetterman?
2. Is he correct?
3. Did his stroke affect his politics?

https://www.google.com/search?clien...=2ahUKEwi_086F4LKLAxUdC3kGHSRpBMcQri56BAgMEAc
Fetterman is the Democrat version of Murkowski, he’s from a swing State, so he isn’t going to tow the party line all the time. Besides, he wants to project the blur collar image, it’s Pennsylvania, as Carville described it, Philly on one end, Pittsburgh on the other, and a whole lot of Alabama inbetween

 

[Diogenes]

https://www.google.com/search?clien...=2ahUKEwi_086F4LKLAxUdC3kGHSRpBMcQri56BAgMEAc
Fetterman is the Democrat version of Murkowski, he’s from a swing State, so he isn’t going to tow the party line all the time. Besides, he wants to project the blur collar image, it’s Pennsylvania, as Carville described it, Philly on one end, Pittsburgh on the other, and a whole lot of Alabama inbetween

"Tow".

"Blur".

"Inbetween".

 

[NiftyNiblick]

The people being shamed and talked down to are essentially worthless people,
and when the worthless become the majority, a society is doomed to dystopia.

Still, the WOKE Democrats also killed us, proving that we have our share of stupid people too.

If you want to help marginalized people, first you have to win.
Otherwise, you lose and can't help anybody.

If you make these woke issues prominent in a campaign,
as opposed to fiscal and standard of living issues,
you're not going to win jack shit
and nobody of any description (other than the corporate criminal) gets helped.

Healthcare. Education. Workers' and consumers' rights. Equitable distribution of wealth.

Even the most uneducated and stupid people understand these issues
and Democrats have to hammer them home or the dumbfucks of Middle America will
continue to be duped and continue to shoot their own dicks off at the polling place.

Help the marginalized? Sure.
But shut the fuck up about it if you want to win and help anybody.
Don't look for decency in the typical American mongrel.
Appeal to their self interest, and mean it, if you want to win.

 

[proud PETA member]

Equitable distribution of wealth.

Honest question Nifty... What does equitable distribution of wealth even look like in a free America without going full blown socialist?

 

[countryboy]

https://www.google.com/search?clien...=2ahUKEwi_086F4LKLAxUdC3kGHSRpBMcQri56BAgMEAc
Fetterman is the Democrat version of Murkowski, he’s from a swing State, so he isn’t going to tow the party line all the time. Besides, he wants to project the blur collar image, it’s Pennsylvania, as Carville described it, Philly on one end, Pittsburgh on the other, and a whole lot of Alabama inbetween

Yes, that's it exactly. Just keep on repeating that kind of stupid, er, insightful shit.

 

[Althea]

Democrat Sen. John Fetterman blasts party brand as ‘toxic’ after years of ‘shaming and scolding’ voters​

Pennsylvania Democratic Sen. John Fetterman agreed that his party’s brand has grown “toxic” after years of “shaming and scolding” voters and even questioned if they can turn it around.

While appearing on the “Somebody’s Gotta Win” podcast on Thursday, host and journalist Tara Palmeri asked Fetterman about how even insiders within the Democratic Party acknowledged the damage their image has taken since the 2024 election.

Fetterman reiterated his belief that the party did it to itself by constantly attacking and demeaning their opponents.

“I think their primary currency was shaming and scolding and talking down to people and telling them ‘Hey, I know better than you, or you’re dopes, or you’re a bro, or you’re ignorant or, how can you be this dumb? I can’t imagine it. And then, by the way, they’re fascists. How can you vote for that?’” Fetterman said.

He continued, “And you know, when you’re in a state like Pennsylvania, I know and I love people that voted for Trump, and they’re not fascist. They don’t support insurrection and those things. And if you go to an extreme, and you become a boutique kind of proposition, then you’re going to lose the argument. And we have done that.”

Fetterman described the 2024 election as a “gut-check kind of vote” where Americans largely focused on who was “going to protect or project [their] personal view of the American way of life,” rather than any specific policy.

With the recent Democratic National Committee (DNC) election, Fetterman admitted he was “not sure” if it was even possible to win back those voters, particularly among men.....
====================================

!. What do you think about Fetterman?
2. Is he correct?
3. Did his stroke affect his politics?

I like Fetterman. Guy had a stroke and it took some time for him to get back mentally. He's just a tad confused, though. In Pa. he has to talk that nonsense as it's a very close state.

And it seems everyone wants face time since the election to point fingers. The plain truth is that the brand isn't toxic. The brand represents the vast majority in the nation.

This nation will not allow a woman to be POTUS. Full stop. Stop hand wringing and questioning the approach. Harris, like Clinton was far more competent to be POTUS than this reality t.v. actor.

Don't you find it odd that when Biden ran against the moron he beat him by 8 million votes?

Dems. do have to make some changes for sure. If they run anyone but a white/straight/male candidate, they will lose.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Yes, that's it exactly. Just keep on repeating that kind of stupid, er, insightful shit.

Yur so funny, boy. LOL

 

[archives]

Yes, that's it exactly. Just keep on repeating that kind of stupid, er, insightful shit.

Notice you didn’t offer anything invaliding anything I offered

And the personal crapola on an anonymous forum only makes you look small

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Honest question Nifty... What does equitable distribution of wealth even look like in a free America without going full blown socialist?

It couldn't be more simple.
Much higher taxes at the very top income levels.

Billionaires are the ones who get the most services from the public sector,
and billionaires are the most adept at dodging taxes.

The graduated income tax is the most progressive and honest form of taxation existent,
and the corporate tax should be progressive as well.

This wouldn't stop people from getting very rich.
It's good that people have the opportunity to get rich.
This would simply stop people from having their own private space programs level of wealth.
And it would provide everybody with national healthcare and with education opportunities.

Wealth taxes and even inheritance taxes smack of communism, not socialism,
but income tax and business tax are essential for even the most primitive level of social economic justice.

And what is full blown socialism?
Every economy on the planet is comprised of capitalism and socialism operating concurrently.
You couldn't even have capitalism not supported by a public sector.
And a socialist government couldn't even operate if it had to control the bakeries and barber shops.

We've got the mix all wrong right now,
and with the dismantling of the government regulatory agencies,
it can only get worse.

 

[proud PETA member]

Much higher taxes at the very top income levels.

Why not just tax 100% of income after an individual has acquired a few million dollars in assets?

Billionaires are the ones who get the most services from the public sector,

What services do billionaires get that I don't?

and billionaires are the most adept at dodging taxes.

How about a flat tax where everyone has equal % skin in the game? This way EVERYONE would begin to actually care about where the tax dollars are spent.

The graduated income tax is the most progressive and honest form of taxation existent,

It's very dishonest. It's theft of wealth and takes more from me than it does you.

and the corporate tax should be progressive as well.

Corporate tax should be ridiculously low so that the cost of doing business in the US is ridiculously low. Corporations should be salivating at the opportunity of doing business and bringing industry and jobs to the US. More jobs are more taxpayers.

This wouldn't stop people from getting very rich.

Why should anyone be stopped from realizing their full potential?

It's good that people have the opportunity to get rich.

Like Elon Musk?

This would simply stop people from having their own private space programs level of wealth.

What is wrong with that? Can you do what Elon has done? He performs at the highest level in the world. Should he not be rewarded at the highest level? How much is too much?

And it would provide everybody with national healthcare

Why is your healthcare my responsibility?

and with education opportunities.

Oh my. You are conflating education with opportunity. Big mistake.

Wealth taxes and even inheritance taxes smack of communism, not socialism,

Socialism is only a step towards communism. It should be OK, right?

but income tax and business tax are essential for even the most primitive level of social economic justice.

Social economic justice? What right do you have to your neighbor's money?

You couldn't even have capitalism not supported by a public sector.

I want my government to protect me from the evil dudes in the world, provide some emergency services, and create an economic environment that is ripe for making shitloads of money for those of us willing to work at it. I'll take care of the rest of my needs with the money I've earned. If this were the case, we'd likely be looking at plentiful 5% flat tax for everyone. The federal gov is currently way over bloated and doing things that is was never intended to do. Thankfully the evil Elon will be shrinking that bullshit.

We've got the mix all wrong right now,

Yes we do, but again, Elon is working on it.

and with the dismantling of the government regulatory agencies,
it can only get worse.

If you're willing to work and wipe your own nose, it will only get better.

 

[FastLane]

https://www.google.com/search?clien...=2ahUKEwi_086F4LKLAxUdC3kGHSRpBMcQri56BAgMEAc
Fetterman is the Democrat version of Murkowski, he’s from a swing State, so he isn’t going to tow the party line all the time. Besides, he wants to project the blur collar image, it’s Pennsylvania, as Carville described it, Philly on one end, Pittsburgh on the other, and a whole lot of Alabama inbetween

So common sense sandwiched by insanity.

 

[Diogenes]

So common sense sandwiched by insanity.

Poor Anchovies.