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It's not just the Democratic Party and the disfunction of their handing out payoffs to varied interest.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/136318.html

I told dems if you over reach your true mandate, you are going to get burned. And that is exactly what is happening. Obama has done diddly squat on ending our adventures abroad. He's supported the Patriot Act, which many hoped he would peel back. Instead, he has focused on pushing destructive and divisive domestic policy.

The only positive we have seen from Obama is an end to the retarded saber rattling of the Bush admin. That's just not enough. Then he throws in a protectionist policy on tires which could do severe damage to our economy.

I had some hope for Obama, but he has been horrible so far.
 
RStringfield said:
It's not just the Democratic Party and the disfunction of their handing out payoffs to varied interest.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/136318.html

I told dems if you over reach your true mandate, you are going to get burned. And that is exactly what is happening. Obama has done diddly squat on ending our adventures abroad. He's supported the Patriot Act, which many hoped he would peel back. Instead, he has focused on pushing destructive and divisive domestic policy.

The only positive we have seen from Obama is an end to the retarded saber rattling of the Bush admin. That's just not enough. Then he throws in a protectionist policy on tires which could do severe damage to our economy.

I had some hope for Obama, but he has been horrible so far.
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It will only get worse with him in office, sorry to say. Love your signature.
 
RStringfield said:
It's not just the Democratic Party and the disfunction of their handing out payoffs to varied interest.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/136318.html

I told dems if you over reach your true mandate, you are going to get burned. And that is exactly what is happening. Obama has done diddly squat on ending our adventures abroad. He's supported the Patriot Act, which many hoped he would peel back. Instead, he has focused on pushing destructive and divisive domestic policy.

The only positive we have seen from Obama is an end to the retarded saber rattling of the Bush admin. That's just not enough. Then he throws in a protectionist policy on tires which could do severe damage to our economy.

I had some hope for Obama, but he has been horrible so far.
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I hate to say I told you so .... but ..

Obama was a mirage from the very beginning.
 
THe protectionist tire thing is the only thing he did right.

Our government needs to put a priority on jobs for americans instead the abstraction of the "world economy".
 
blackascoal said:
Bush = FAIL
Republicans = FAIL
Democrats = FAIL
The American People = MAJOR FAIL
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You're only 3/4 right.

The american people are actually victims here.

there is no real choice in our elections. And when elected those politicians are just bribed to rubberstamp laws written by fascist think tanks.
 
There's nothing divisive about Obama's healthcare reform. The latest NY Times poll shows that a huge majority of like 65 to 20-something support the public option, with some undecideds. That's not even a closes call. There's no division among the sane on this issue.
 
AssHatZombie said:
You're only 3/4 right.

The american people are actually victims here.

there is no real choice in our elections. And when elected those politicians are just bribed to rubberstamp laws written by fascist think tanks.
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Retarded. The American People have the entire responsibility to ensure the existence of at least one viable major party. Since its never been the Democratic Party, we've had to rely on Whigs and Republicans. Now that the GOP has been sucking more and more since the neocon takeover, BAC is correct in stating that the American People FAIL.
 
AssHatZombie said:
You're only 3/4 right.

The american people are actually victims here.

there is no real choice in our elections. And when elected those politicians are just bribed to rubberstamp laws written by fascist think tanks.
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When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

The American people have FAILED that responsibility.

Citizens have that responsibility, subjects to the Crown do not.

We are not "victims" my brother .. we are simply subjects to the Crown, not citizens.
 
blackascoal said:
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

The American people have FAILED that responsibility.

Citizens have the responsibility, subjects to the Crown do not.

We are not "victims" my brother .. we are simply subjects to the Crown, not citizens.
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No. We're victims. We were denied our proper governance by monied interests and dishonest politicians.
 
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