Did You Know There Is A US Congress Civility And Respect Caucus? Member List Is Here.

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No, they never pledge to be civil to one another; nor to each other's party in general.

What were you thinking?

They go give speeches trying to tell other people to be civil.

Turns out: there's money to be had from civility.

No kidding:

"• The Harvard Business Review conducted a poll of 800 managers/employees across 17 industries and found…
- 48% of workers on the receiving end of uncivil behavior intentionally decreased their efforts on the job
- 78% of workers said their commitment to the organization declined
- 80% of workers lost time/productivity worrying about the incident
- When consumers perceive employees to be uncivil, they are less likely to use the services of a company
- Cisco estimates that incivility cost their company $12 million a year

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Members of Congress who join the Civility and Respect Caucus are expected to join with a partner from the other side of the aisle, and agree to host events together to promote civility.

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CIVILITY & RESPECT CAUCUS MEMBERSHIP
Congressman Steve Stivers (R-OH) Congresswoman Joyce Beatty (D-OH)
Congressman Dave Joyce (R-OH) Congresswoman Marcia Fudge (D-OH)
Congressman Fred Upton (R-MI) Congresswoman Debbie Dingell (D-MI)
Congressman Rodney Davis (R-IL) Congresswoman Lisa Blunt Rochester (D-DE)
Congressman Dan Newhouse (R-WA) Congressman Derek Kilmer (D-WA)
Congressman French Hill (R-AR) Congresswoman Brenda Lawrence (D-AR)
Congressman Mike Johnson (R-LA) Congressman Charlie Crist (D-FL)
Congressman Jodey Arrington (R-TX) Congressman Ro Khanna (D-CA)
Congressman Bradley Byrne (R-AL) Congresswoman Terri Sewell (D-AL)
Congressman Don Bacon (R-NE) Congressman Salud Carbajal (D-CA)
Congressman Lloyd Smucker (R-PA) Congressman Dwight Evans (D-PA)
Congressman Barry Laudermilk (R-GA) Congressman David Scott (D-GA)
Congressman Mike Gallagher (R-WI) Congresswoman Kathleen Rice (D-NY)
Congressman Lee Zeldin (R-NY) Congressman Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ)
Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA) Congressman Tom Suozzi (D-NY)
Congressman Steve Chabot (R-OH) Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur (D-OH)
Congressman Garett Graves (R-LA) Congressman Alan Lowenthal (D-CA) "

US Congressional Civility & Respect Caucus

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Civility is a good thing. Incivility is a bad thing. Incivility causes stress. And it makes people sad. Since the object of life is to enjoy the time we have here it makes no sense to do things that make people sad. Logically, it makes far more sense to be civil and respectful to others than to not. Our nation will function far better when everyone is civil to everyone else. Our GDP would be higher, people would be happier, and we would have fewer expensive problems to pay for. So try some civility today! It's totally free, there's no residue, and it is proven safe. Warning: May be habit-forming.
 
Imagine that.

Civility among our representatives...

Who do they think they represent anyway?

We are a pretty nasty nation under President Trump.
 
Our nation cannot function without civility.

Imagine if Congress simply boiled down to a shouting/insult match like JPP.

No way it could work like that.

Nothing would get done.
 
I see many other countries have a "less polite" parliament, ppl talking, commenting etc all the time, in much smaller chambers usually, even given our facade, still not much is getting down..
 
Hello Bill,

Bill said:
I see many other countries have a "less polite" parliament, ppl talking, commenting etc all the time, in much smaller chambers usually, even given our facade, still not much is getting down..
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Yeah, and they also slide into shoe-throwing and fist fights.

Not the best method to arrive at effective policy based on differing views.
 
PoliTalker said:
No, they never pledge to be civil to one another; nor to each other's party in general.

What were you thinking?

They go give speeches trying to tell other people to be civil.

Turns out: there's money to be had from civility.

No kidding:

"• The Harvard Business Review conducted a poll of 800 managers/employees across 17 industries and found…
- 48% of workers on the receiving end of uncivil behavior intentionally decreased their efforts on the job
- 78% of workers said their commitment to the organization declined
- 80% of workers lost time/productivity worrying about the incident
- When consumers perceive employees to be uncivil, they are less likely to use the services of a company
- Cisco estimates that incivility cost their company $12 million a year

...

Members of Congress who join the Civility and Respect Caucus are expected to join with a partner from the other side of the aisle, and agree to host events together to promote civility.

...

CIVILITY & RESPECT CAUCUS MEMBERSHIP
Congressman Steve Stivers (R-OH) Congresswoman Joyce Beatty (D-OH)
Congressman Dave Joyce (R-OH) Congresswoman Marcia Fudge (D-OH)
Congressman Fred Upton (R-MI) Congresswoman Debbie Dingell (D-MI)
Congressman Rodney Davis (R-IL) Congresswoman Lisa Blunt Rochester (D-DE)
Congressman Dan Newhouse (R-WA) Congressman Derek Kilmer (D-WA)
Congressman French Hill (R-AR) Congresswoman Brenda Lawrence (D-AR)
Congressman Mike Johnson (R-LA) Congressman Charlie Crist (D-FL)
Congressman Jodey Arrington (R-TX) Congressman Ro Khanna (D-CA)
Congressman Bradley Byrne (R-AL) Congresswoman Terri Sewell (D-AL)
Congressman Don Bacon (R-NE) Congressman Salud Carbajal (D-CA)
Congressman Lloyd Smucker (R-PA) Congressman Dwight Evans (D-PA)
Congressman Barry Laudermilk (R-GA) Congressman David Scott (D-GA)
Congressman Mike Gallagher (R-WI) Congresswoman Kathleen Rice (D-NY)
Congressman Lee Zeldin (R-NY) Congressman Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ)
Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA) Congressman Tom Suozzi (D-NY)
Congressman Steve Chabot (R-OH) Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur (D-OH)
Congressman Garett Graves (R-LA) Congressman Alan Lowenthal (D-CA) "

US Congressional Civility & Respect Caucus

PoliTalker anti-troll thread thief disclaimer: (For uncivil people) If this thread is stolen, plagiarized, will the thief have the nerve to use the entire OP, word for word? Including this disclaimer? If you want my take on it, you'll have to post to this original PoliTalker thread. I refuse to be an enabler for online bullies, so I won't post to a stolen thread. I won't even read it. If you don't see me, PoliTalker, posting in this thread check the author. This might be a hijacked thread, not the original.

Civility is a good thing. Incivility is a bad thing. Incivility causes stress. And it makes people sad. Since the object of life is to enjoy the time we have here it makes no sense to do things that make people sad. Logically, it makes far more sense to be civil and respectful to others than to not. Our nation will function far better when everyone is civil to everyone else. Our GDP would be higher, people would be happier, and we would have fewer expensive problems to pay for. So try some civility today! It's totally free, there's no residue, and it is proven safe. Warning: May be habit-forming.
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Can’t hurt. I almost always try to separate the post from the poster when I make comments.
 
Good morning JPF,

JPF said:
Can’t hurt. I almost always try to separate the post from the poster when I make comments.
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Well said.

That's the smartest way to take part in meaningful political discourse.

I applaud civility. After all. The whole purpose of a political forum is to discuss politics, not each other.
 
PoliTalker said:
Good morning JPF,



Well said.

That's the smartest way to take part in meaningful political discourse.

I applaud civility. After all. The whole purpose of a political forum is to discuss politics, not each other.
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While that may be the reason you visit political forums, that isn't the only reason others do..

Some are here to have fun, shoot the shit, troll, get their shit off on someone, hate on others, slay the libs, kill the cons etc etc etc......

To the extent you would find hard to believe..........
 
Bill said:
While that may be the reason you visit political forums, that isn't the only reason others do..

Some are here to have fun, shoot the shit, troll, get their shit off on someone, hate on others, slay the libs, kill the cons etc etc etc......

To the extent you would find hard to believe..........
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I wouldn’t find it hard to believe at all; I used to do that on the other board I frequent. Now? I just try to separate the post from the poster and ignore the obvious cranks.
 
Hello Bill,

Bill said:
While that may be the reason you visit political forums, that isn't the only reason others do..

Some are here to have fun, shoot the shit, troll, get their shit off on someone, hate on others, slay the libs, kill the cons etc etc etc......

To the extent you would find hard to believe..........
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Oh, I believe it alright. I am well aware of the trolls. I have no use for them. That's why my IgList is nearly 50.

And I have zero problem with that. It only makes sense that a medium which allows immature people, who are otherwise unable to interact respectfully in polite society, to anonymously unload their frustrations on others without ever even having to look them in the eye or shake their hand, it only makes sense that a medium like that would attract lots of society's misfits. That's basic logic. So it only makes equal sense that an individual who desires to simply discuss politics without getting angry or having anger dumped upon them would have a large Ignore List.

I understand that the ability to listen to others who hold different views without getting angry at them, and to be able to respond with points which challenge those different views which are not insulting, is rare. That puts one in a very small group. But it is a group I strove to be in, and having achieved that ability, I certainly don't want to go back to allowing emotion to drive my politics. The best policy for this nation has to be driven by logic and what is best for this country. I look at what would make us the strongest and most enduring nation. That's what I think we should do.

It is logical that we need to stop hating one another and strive to be able to talk about our different views, and how they would play out if transformed into policy. It is logical that nobody is going to get their way all the time. The beauty of this nation, our strength, what makes us great, is that we have so many different viewpoints. It would be a detriment if we all thought alike, all believed the same things.

Conservatives who strive for exactly that never realize that what they are trying to build would leave us in a weakened position.

Diversity is strength.

Diversity is power.

Diversity makes us great.

Any political position which does not recognize that is doomed to failure.

Those who cannot even talk about politics with civility poison the conversation, deter us from true greatness.

It is from the process of disagreement and discussion (with mutual respect) that great ideas are hatched.
 
Hello StoneByStone,

StoneByStone said:
And by Trump winning the election, we're basically telling everyone to be a bully, because bullies win. If he gets reelected, which I think he will, things will only get nastier.
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It is not assured that Trump will win.

And I don't really see how things could get much nastier.

Feels like we've already hit bottom.
 
When it comes to their part to destroy democracy, destroying the legitimacy of the 2016 election at manipulating the electoral college and suppressing votes in tRump's favor, constantly engaging in obstruction of justice and being basically friends of America's foreign and domestic enemies, these republican traitors are either hypocrites for coming up with this caucus or need some mind reengineering in order to understand the true meaning of being civil and respectful. In terms of being civil and respectful that would be most importantly toward the U.S. Constitution, the laws of the land and not continuing to rig courts with crony judges and attacking the well being of society and America's image in the world in order to aid and comfort foreign and domestic enemies of society. As far as I am concerned the GOP has morphed into being Russians' portal as a way to attempt to destroy democracy and the common decency of humanity at using ignorant, hateful and gullible Americans to do so.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello StoneByStone,



It is not assured that Trump will win.

And I don't really see how things could get much nastier.

Feels like we've already hit bottom.
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How many times have you thought that??


I know I have several times, & yet he has managed to lower the stature of the office almost non-stop..
 
Hello and good morning gemini104104,

gemini104104 said:
When it comes to their part to destroy democracy, destroying the legitimacy of the 2016 election at manipulating the electoral college and suppressing votes in tRump's favor, constantly engaging in obstruction of justice and being basically friends of America's foreign and domestic enemies, these republican traitors are either hypocrites for coming up with this caucus or need some mind reengineering in order to understand the true meaning of being civil and respectful. In terms of being civil and respectful that would be most importantly toward the U.S. Constitution, the laws of the land and not continuing to rig courts with crony judges and attacking the well being of society and America's image in the world in order to aid and comfort foreign and domestic enemies of society. As far as I am concerned the GOP has morphed into being Russians' portal as a way to attempt to destroy democracy and the common decency of humanity at using ignorant, hateful and gullible Americans to do so.
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Perhaps unwittingly it is possible that Republicans have allowed themselves to be indirectly orchestrated by Russia in aiding the destruction of civility in US Politics.

It serves short-sided conservatives to demonize liberals, foment hatred of fellow Americans. At least they think it does. They want to force their way on everybody else, so they attack all who do not agree with them.

Since Trump got so cozy with Putin, taking his word over our own intelligence agencies that Russia didn't meddle in our election (total BS,) many Republicans have backed him up on this lie.

The only way many Republican voters can maintain their political positions is to believe and spread rumors that Democrats are horrible people. We regularly hear conservative posters claim that they believe Democrats 'hate America,' or 'are trying to destroy America.' (both are untrue) They consider themselves part 'the real America,' and then it follows that the liberal Americans and American Democrats they disparage are apparently somehow not Americans in their view. They are mistaken, of course. America is built on diversity.

American diversity includes people of various political views. Liberals and Democrats are every bit as much American as Republican conservatives are. Hateful right wing conservatives ignore this basic fact at their own disadvantage, for their vision of how America should be is not possible. This leads to constant frustration on their part. It makes them angry. They take their anger out on liberal posters. They take their anger out on liberals in general. They spread hateful rumors, make up things, believe in things which simply are not true.

This makes civil discourse impossible for them and shuts down meaningful discussions.

And then we have the foolish immature liberals who decide two wrongs make a right so they believe if the conservatives can do it, then that makes it OK for them to get just as nasty. This serves no purpose whatsoever besides throwing gasoline on the fire, and reaffirming mistaken conservative beliefs that liberals are 'not part of the real America,' and/or 'America's enemies.'

This highly polarized type of expression accomplishes nothing, and worse, it holds us back from meaningful debate on solving our many problems.

I applaud the US Congressional Civility Caucus.
 
The good news is it is never too late to change. Each of us needs to look within and examine how we think of others who hold opposing political views. No, there is never going to be a moment when everyone changes, so don't expect others to drop their foolish hate if you decide to do it. That makes it a real challenge to change. But that doesn't make it impossible. With understanding, one can logically reason that dropping the animosity, forgiving others is the right thing to do. Even if they don't stop being mean. You don't have to talk to nasty people. Any one of us can decide for him or her self to just stop being mean and nasty. No, it isn't easy. Once caught up in that loop it seems normal, supported by many false notions that 'everybody is like that.'

Well, no.

'Everybody' is not like that.

We can decide for ourselves to transcend above that. Here's how:

1. Understand that just because you want to undergo self-improvement, others are under no obligation to follow suit. They will still be mean and nasty.

2. You simply find a way to deal with their nastiness besides matching it with your own. This could mean just placing disagreeable posters on Ignore. (There will still be plenty of people to talk to without them. This is a big site. Lots of volume. Higher quality posts are there for the finding.)

3. Find a way to forgive those who make the mistake of being mean and nasty. You don't have to tell them, (of even read their posts) but you do have to drop any anger held at them for what they do. They are being immature. It's not right. They don't know any better. You don't have to go there. You come off far better if you don't.

4. Resolve that no matter what others do, you and you alone are in control of what you do.

5. Read over your posts before clicking 'submit.' Are you talking about the political subject at hand? Or are you talking about others... It is one thing to criticize a position. It is quite another to downtalk somebody for holding it. Just don't go there. It's a bit tricky at first. Habits are hard to break - but in time can be changed.

6. Let people have their positions. If your are truly superior, all you have to do is explain why to win the debate. Don't try to discredit them. Discredit their view. That is a huge difference.

7. Here's a carrot. If you can do this, it will change your life. You will be able to enjoy political discussions without getting angry. You will enjoy life more. You'll be happier.
 
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