Dixie and Dumb America

midcan5

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Dixie's threads are always self referential. When faced with a question he cannot resolve in his world he will change the question. It is why he needs the last word. He lost badly the debate on WMDs in Iraq, and yet I would bet to this day he would still argue and force the issue into some other area in which he can then destroy an argument that exists only in his creation.

But Dixie is at least articulate; you can understand him. But what of all the other Americans, the forty percent in this nation who are functionally illiterate? Can one, for instance believe that as a nation we have become so dumb Sarah Palin was viable candidate? A person whose intellect was somewhere around the 5th grade. And what are the criticisms of Gore, Kerry, or Obama? They can actually create a structured sentence and not grunt words together like W - A guy who looks good in jeans, and we want to have a beer with, and so we vote for this inarticulate, incurious C student.

Russia could not defeat America, but America, just as Russia did, will defeat itself if it does not learn that some things are important and ideas are not all the same. The constant repetitive groans from the illiterate on global warming, on fair wages, on fair taxes, on government will surely have a toll. They already have.

Consider a few items from a recent article in Harper's Magazine. One out of every four Americans believe they have been reincarnated, 44% percent believe in ghosts, 71% believe in angels, forty percent Gawd created all things in their present form in the last 10,000 years. Twenty percent think the sun may revolve around the earth. The list goes on.

One can then ask themselves is it necessary that a citizen be educated. Can one even imagine Abraham Lincoln talking to Americans today for two hours straight. No. Can one imagine FDR's speeches: 'we are in this together, we need to work hard.' No. They would be out the door, headed for cheap junk at Walmart that makes them happy, or quickly turn on 24 so they can get that tingly fear and wonderful relief as Jack saves them from all things bad. Does jack work in government? Sorry, I have never watched the show, the coming attractions are enough for me.

From 'Notebook, A Quibble,' By Mark Slouka

"I was raised to be ashamed of my ignorance, and to try to do something about it if at all possible. I carry that burden to this day, and have successfully passed it on to my children. I don’t believe I have the right to an opinion about something I know nothing about—constitutional law, for example, or sailing—a notion that puts me sadly out of step with a growing majority of my countrymen, many of whom may be unable to tell you anything at all about Islam, say, or socialism, or climate change, except that they hate it, are against it, don’t believe in it. Worse still (or more amusing, depending on the day) are those who can tell you, and then offer up a stew of New Age blather, right-wing rant, and bloggers’ speculation that’s so divorced from actual, demonstrable fact, that’s so not true, as the kids would say, that the mind goes numb with wonder. “Way I see it is,” a man in the Tulsa Motel 6 swimming pool told me last summer, “if English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it’s good enough for us.”

Quite possibly, this belief in our own opinion, regardless of the facts, may be what separates us from the nations of the world, what makes us unique in God’s eyes. The average German or Czech, though possibly no less ignorant than his American counterpart, will probably consider the possibility that someone who has spent his life studying something may have an opinion worth considering. Not the American. Although perfectly willing to recognize expertise in basketball, for example, or refrigerator repair, when it comes to the realm of ideas, all folks (and their opinions) are suddenly equal. Thus evolution is a damned lie, global warming a liberal hoax, and Republicans care about people like you."

http://www.harpers.org/
 
Dixie's threads are always self referential. When faced with a question he cannot resolve in his world he will change the question. It is why he needs the last word. He lost badly the debate on WMDs in Iraq, and yet I would bet to this day he would still argue and force the issue into some other area in which he can then destroy an argument that exists only in his creation.

But Dixie is at least articulate; you can understand him. But what of all the other Americans, the forty percent in this nation who are functionally illiterate? Can one, for instance believe that as a nation we have become so dumb Sarah Palin was viable candidate? A person whose intellect was somewhere around the 5th grade. And what are the criticisms of Gore, Kerry, or Obama? They can actually create a structured sentence and not grunt words together like W - A guy who looks good in jeans, and we want to have a beer with, and so we vote for this inarticulate, incurious C student.

Russia could not defeat America, but America, just as Russia did, will defeat itself if it does not learn that some things are important and ideas are not all the same. The constant repetitive groans from the illiterate on global warming, on fair wages, on fair taxes, on government will surely have a toll. They already have.

Consider a few items from a recent article in Harper's Magazine. One out of every four Americans believe they have been reincarnated, 44% percent believe in ghosts, 71% believe in angels, forty percent Gawd created all things in their present form in the last 10,000 years. Twenty percent think the sun may revolve around the earth. The list goes on.

One can then ask themselves is it necessary that a citizen be educated. Can one even imagine Abraham Lincoln talking to Americans today for two hours straight. No. Can one imagine FDR's speeches: 'we are in this together, we need to work hard.' No. They would be out the door, headed for cheap junk at Walmart that makes them happy, or quickly turn on 24 so they can get that tingly fear and wonderful relief as Jack saves them from all things bad. Does jack work in government? Sorry, I have never watched the show, the coming attractions are enough for me.

From 'Notebook, A Quibble,' By Mark Slouka

"I was raised to be ashamed of my ignorance, and to try to do something about it if at all possible. I carry that burden to this day, and have successfully passed it on to my children. I don’t believe I have the right to an opinion about something I know nothing about—constitutional law, for example, or sailing—a notion that puts me sadly out of step with a growing majority of my countrymen, many of whom may be unable to tell you anything at all about Islam, say, or socialism, or climate change, except that they hate it, are against it, don’t believe in it. Worse still (or more amusing, depending on the day) are those who can tell you, and then offer up a stew of New Age blather, right-wing rant, and bloggers’ speculation that’s so divorced from actual, demonstrable fact, that’s so not true, as the kids would say, that the mind goes numb with wonder. “Way I see it is,” a man in the Tulsa Motel 6 swimming pool told me last summer, “if English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it’s good enough for us.”

Quite possibly, this belief in our own opinion, regardless of the facts, may be what separates us from the nations of the world, what makes us unique in God’s eyes. The average German or Czech, though possibly no less ignorant than his American counterpart, will probably consider the possibility that someone who has spent his life studying something may have an opinion worth considering. Not the American. Although perfectly willing to recognize expertise in basketball, for example, or refrigerator repair, when it comes to the realm of ideas, all folks (and their opinions) are suddenly equal. Thus evolution is a damned lie, global warming a liberal hoax, and Republicans care about people like you."

http://www.harpers.org/

The Dixies' and the rest of dumbed-down America marginalize themselves. They are neither the challenge nor the question. The future of America is the challenge, and the challenge to that future comes in the form of more corporate control of the levers of our government, not from what a dwindling horde of right-wing ideologues think or believe.

Right-wingers have shouted their way into irrelevance and disdain. There are far better things to think about than what the Dixies' of the world have to say.

Such as, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, and the further expansion of American military aggression .. which has not changed since Obama became president.

What do we do about nuclear proliferation, which is inevitable as long as we have nuclear weapons. If we have them, then every nation has a right to them. You don't get to have the only gun .. and as we've seen, it doesn't take having 10,000 nuclear weapons to be dangerous. It only takes one.

What about healthcare? Forget what the Dixies' are saying, they don't count. The battle will be against Obama and his minamalist plans that will only amount to healthcare tweaking, not real healthcare reform.

There are a myriad of questions and issues that will require serious thought .. but what the right-wing thinks cannot be considered serious thought.
 
We have always had the uneducated, its just that now they have more power than they have ever had. Its a difficult position, while everyone has the right to vote and is created equal... The uneducated often make poor decisions. The only answer to this problem is to redouble our efforts to ensure everyone gets as good of an education as possable. That is why education is so important.
 
We have always had the uneducated, its just that now they have more power than they have ever had. Its a difficult position, while everyone has the right to vote and is created equal... The uneducated often make poor decisions. The only answer to this problem is to redouble our efforts to ensure everyone gets as good of an education as possable. That is why education is so important.

I disagree my brother. The uneducated has always had power in this country. Republicans and the right-wing have pandered to them for decades. Nixon's "southern strategy" is probably best defined as his "Quest for the Ignorant."

But focusing on dumb people misses the point .. and sometimes the educated become the enemy. Lot's of educated people who put greed and power before the best interests of America .. and some of them call themselves democrats.
 
Dixie, Southern Man, and sty are embarrassments to the south and with Dixie making BAMA a mockery.
The uneducated in the south are shaking off 50yrs of the bs these nazi/republicans have been selling. Sure it's a slow process, but Obama wouldn't have won without them.
These knuckle draggers are the best thing in decades for Democrats who can't recruit. Republicans convieniently chase them away.
 
My debate isn't with Dixie, it is with the anti-intellectualism he represents. Let's face it, anyone who can use as their avatar a symbol that represents in part the enslavement of fellow humans is not very deep. But weekly he posts confusing nonsense about others, nonsense that shows why the statistics mentioned above are possible in nation that grows dumber all the time.

http://www.dumbestgeneration.com/home.html

Amazon.com: The Dumbest Generation: How the Digital Age Stupefies Young Americans and Jeopardizes Our Future (Or, Don't Trust Anyone Under 30): Mark Bauerlein: Books
 
I disagree my brother. The uneducated has always had power in this country. Republicans and the right-wing have pandered to them for decades. Nixon's "southern strategy" is probably best defined as his "Quest for the Ignorant."

That explains why the Republicans have always been known as the "Party of the Rich"....the rich, the successful, the business owners, the folks that made us the most successful, richest and most powerful country in the world...the mature, etc....

But focusing on dumb people misses the point .. and sometimes the educated become the enemy. Lot's of educated people who put greed and power before the best interests of America .. and some of them call themselves democrats.

But focusing on dumb people misses the point ?

The left focus on dumb people because that is their constituency....the poor, unsuccessful, peon laborers of the dirt....
And now the left actually produces them to support their class war, vote them into office, etc...the dummies that sell their votes for unkept promises and the hope for change and the dreams of becoming one of those rich, successful business owners.....

 
But focusing on dumb people misses the point ?

The left focus on dumb people because that is their constituency....the poor, unsuccessful, peon laborers of the dirt....
And now the left actually produces them to support their class war, vote them into office, etc...the dummies that sell their votes for unkept promises and the hope for change and the dreams of becoming one of those rich, successful business owners.....


Answer me these questions three:

1) Does the earth rotate around the sun or does the sun rotate around the earth?

2) True or false. God created everything in its present form within the last 10,000 years.

3) True or false. The civil was was about slavery.
 
Answer me these questions three:???? wow

Are you a poet ? or just stupid enough to fuck up the words a little..?
 
I'm pretty sure everyone with an IQ over 60 gets the humor.

Browsing wikipedia for the answers?

lol.....we both know you accidentally transposed the words , but I won't dwell on your mistake....
I remember you as the pinhead that claimed a raped baby wouldn't have any lasting trauma...so I normally ignore anything you post....
 
lol.....we both know you accidentally transposed the words , but I won't dwell on your mistake....
I remember you as the pinhead that claimed a raped baby wouldn't have any lasting trauma...so I normally ignore anything you post....

It wasn't a mistake. It's Monty Python, idiot.
 
I disagree my brother. The uneducated has always had power in this country. Republicans and the right-wing have pandered to them for decades. Nixon's "southern strategy" is probably best defined as his "Quest for the Ignorant."

But focusing on dumb people misses the point .. and sometimes the educated become the enemy. Lot's of educated people who put greed and power before the best interests of America .. and some of them call themselves democrats.

This is nothing new. H.L. Menken said, about 80 years ago, "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. The American public is better educated and informed then we have ever been, across the board, in our entire history.

The problem is, is that we are not competative with the rest of the Industrialized world. The have caught up with us and are starting to leave us in the dust.

We need to remember that the next time a bond issue comes up in our community and we have to decide between the basketball team and having a qualified chemistry teacher. Right now, basketball wins and we have the best basketball players in the world but Germany has the best chemists.

Pretty sad when you think that this year alone China will graduate more Engineers from college then the US will graduate in all majors combined.
 
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Yep thru gluttony and laziness we have allowed the lead to slip from our grasp.
But perhaps next year we can buy better engineered hummers from China.
 
This is nothing new. H.L. Menken said, about 80 years ago, "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. The American public is better educated and informed then we have ever been, across the board, in our entire history.

The problem is, is that we are not competative with the rest of the Industrialized world. The have caught up with us and are starting to leave us in the dust.

We need to remember that the next time a bond issue comes up in our community and we have to decide between the basketball team and having a qualified chemistry teacher. Right now, basketball wins and we have the best basketball players in the world but Germany has the best chemists.

Pretty sad when you think that this year alone China will graduate more Engineers from college then the will graduate in all majors combined.

Well, knock me over with a feather....

very good....though I think you understated the problem some....
I think you credit rank and file citizens with much more smarts than they deserve...most would be stars on Jay Leno's Jaywalking skit.....
 
Yep thru gluttony and laziness we have allowed the lead to slip from our grasp.
But perhaps next year we can buy better engineered hummers from China.

gluttony and laziness ? Sound like a preacher's excuse...
I'm a cynic....
I've watched it for the last 45 years....its an elaborate scheme...planned...and working like a charm to become an ordinary citizen of the world.......the dumbing down of America....
 
Yes and as they go up in living standards we go down. It is inevitable.
We will never fully recover from this "recession".
 
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