Don Jr. calls for Pa. legislators to appoint pro-tRump electors.

Is there any good reason not to feed Douchebag Von Fuckface and Thurston Shitbag the Third to a pride of hungry jungle cats?
The cats have strong digestive systems. They won't get sick.

Ivanka and Jared needn't be excluded either.

Not Stevie Miller, though. Save him for the crocks.
 
The concept is not new. Almost every election the losing party talks about it. Nobody has been that nefarious. Trump is.
 
Flash said:
The Constitution gives the legislature that power.
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Exactly where is that power given?

"Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.

The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves. And they shall make a list of all the persons voted for, and of the number of votes for each; which list they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted. The person having the greatest number of votes shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such majority, and have an equal number of votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately choose by ballot one of them for President; and if no person have a majority, then from the five highest on the list the said House shall in like manner choose the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by States, the representation from each state having one vote; A quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. In every case, after the choice of the President, the person having the greatest number of votes of the electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal votes, the Senate shall choose from them by ballot the Vice President."
 
Old Trapper said:
Exactly where is that power given?
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You posted the constitutional provisions that give the states that power. Most state laws say the electoral slate goes to the candidate receiving a plurality of popular votes, but there is nothing saying the legislature can't change that and select electors directly unless it is in the state constitution.

I don't favor such an action, just saying the state legislature has that power.
 
Flash said:
You posted the constitutional provisions that give the states that power. Most state laws say the electoral slate goes to the candidate receiving a plurality of popular votes, but there is nothing saying the legislature can't change that and select electors directly unless it is in the state constitution.

I don't favor such an action, just saying the state legislature has that power.
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There is nothing in the Constitution that gives the States the power to overrule the vote of the people.
 
Old Trapper said:
There is nothing in the Constitution that gives the States the power to overrule the vote of the people.
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The Constitution makes no mention or provision about the vote of the people. It gives the states the power to select electors and over time the states passed that power to the voters through state laws/constitution. They have the power to change that method (if they want to commit political suicide).
 
Flash said:
The Constitution makes no mention or provision about the vote of the people. It gives the states the power to select electors and over time the states passed that power to the voters through state laws/constitution. They have the power to change that method (if they want to commit political suicide).
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Yes but ... Pennsylvania law says the voters elect the electors. They can’t retroactively change the law. Would never be allowed. And of course it would be political suicide. Dumb idea from Trumps idiot son.
 
Concart said:
Very unlikely it would be allowed retroactively to change the law. But good luck!!!
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I agree it is extremely unlikely. However, it would not have to be retroactively because the electors do not meet until Dec. It would be a future action. It would also be political suicide for the legislators choosing to do that.
 
Concart said:
Yes but ... Pennsylvania law says the voters elect the electors. They can’t retroactively change the law. Would never be allowed. And of course it would be political suicide. Dumb idea from Trumps idiot son.
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They would be choosing the electors for the December meeting. I agree there are many obstacles, just saying the legislature has that power.

The Trump people would have more luck trying to lobby the electors to vote for their guy. About 7 electors in 2016 did not vote for the popular vote winner in their state.
 
Flash said:
I agree it is extremely unlikely. However, it would not have to be retroactively because the electors do not meet until Dec. It would be a future action. It would also be political suicide for the legislators choosing to do that.
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It would because electors are chosen by the election which has already taken place. No court would allow it.
 
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