Election deniers have done more damage to America than anyone else: Public thread

[Into the Night]

Yet another attempt at censorship by twits to give them a 'safe space' to push their lies.

Bringing this thread out for public discussion.

The OP and my comments on it:

The Lindells, Lakes & Trumps of the world have set this precious republic back immeasurably.

There are millions now who will never trust a result unless their candidate wins. Think about that. If there are several pillars that represent the foundation of what we have, election integrity is one of them, and probably the most important. Without it, we can fall apart, very easily.

Inversion fallacy. The fault is the DEMOCRATS and the continuing election fraud, which was so bad that the 2020 and 2022 elections faulted. You jerks are playing with fire, and you WILL get burned.

I'm sure someone will post a quote from Hillary or Gore - but both candidates conceded their losses. And neither came close to a fraction of the constant drumbeat we have heard from the deniers on the right since 2020.

Just to remind everyone: the Big Lie started because a narcissist who literally cannot accept losing - in any area of life - refused, not surprisingly, to accept his loss, and told everyone the election was rigged.

The election was rigged. You cannot make the evidence of election fraud by Democrats just disappear. You cannot make the judgement by people of that evidence just disappear either.

He also said there was "massive fraud" in 2016, only because he lost the popular vote. He also called 2012 a sham.

The President is not elected by popular vote.
2012 and 2016 also had election fraud by Democrats, but it was not sufficient to cause the election to fault. Both the 2020 and 2022 elections faulted.

And for anyone who believes there was a massive conspiracy: there would have to have been operatives and people in the know in at least 6 states, dozens of counties, and hundreds of precincts.

There were, and they've been exposed.

 

[Into the Night]

The right wing is trying to undermine democracy by attacking one of the privileges of citizenship we learn about in school.
One person, one vote does not guarantee a strong democracy. But without it, democracy is impossible.

There is no democracy. The United States was organized as a federated republic. What numbnuts is trying to do here is redefine the oligarchy he wants as 'democracy'.

 

[BidenPresident]

There is no democracy. The United States was organized as a federated republic. What numbnuts is trying to do here is redefine the oligarchy he wants as 'democracy'.

you are a moron

 

[Into the Night]

trump. The best investment Putin ever made.

Oh this tired old shit again. Russia, Russia, Russia...*yawn*.

Putin is a socialist, while Trump is a conservative. Why the hell would Putin WANT Trump in office??? He wants DEMOCRATS in office!

 

[Into the Night]

So you will never trust election results again because of Trump?

This is, in fact, what BidenPresident (the Creep Wannabe) is arguing in his OP.

 

[Into the Night]

No, we will never trust Trump.

...annnnd this is his response. A paradox. He's trying to lie his way out now???????!?

 

[BidenPresident]

...annnnd this is his response. A paradox. He's trying to lie his way out now???????!?

shut up asshole

 

[Into the Night]

There are always people that question election results.

It is a right to question such things, do you want to take that away from the American people?

A brilliant observation! Yes...that is exactly what BidenPresident is arguing!

 

[Into the Night]

This is pretty mail-in stuff.

You speak in generalities. Nothing to debate.

...annd the Creep Wannabe's response. Random phrases. He's trying to terminate the conversation.

 

[Into the Night]

So in your world a citizen should not be able to question the results of an election?

They are always pure and honest?

Good for you Tinkerpeach! Continue to press exposing his radical position!

 

[Into the Night]

I did not say that. Nor can it be inferred from what I stated.

And now The Creep Wannabe is trying to deny his own posts! Well, he cannot delete his OP now!

 

[BidenPresident]

And now The Creep Wannabe is trying to deny his own posts! Well, he cannot delete his OP now!

fuck you

 

[Into the Night]

Good, then you agree that Trump had a right to challenge the election results.

Glad we settled that.

A beautiful method of arguing. Just echo their own idiocy back to them and watch them trap themselves!

 

[Into the Night]

Trump organized a violent coup on the US government. Most democratic nations would have shot this traitor by now.

Now the Creep Wannabe, having realized he's been trapped, pivots to a completely different (and tired) topic.

The coup, of course, was by DEMOCRATS, and so far has been successful. Note that he tries to label the oligarchy he wants as a 'democracy' again. He doesn't even realize there are no democracies currently on Earth.

 

[BidenPresident]

Now the Creep Wannabe, having realized he's been trapped, pivots to a completely different (and tired) topic.

The coup, of course, was by DEMOCRATS, and so far has been successful. Note that he tries to label the oligarchy he wants as a 'democracy' again. He doesn't even realize there are no democracies currently on Earth.

fuck you

 

[BartenderElite]

The word "censorship" is so misunderstood, and so misused.

 

[Into the Night]

Is that what you call it?

He tried to coerce an election official to "find votes." He tried to pressure his VP into violating the Constitution. He spread verifiable lies on a daily basis.

He tried to overturn the results of a legitimate election.

Now The Drunk chimes in at exactly the same time with exactly the same pivot (are these two socks?).

Trump didn't coerce anyone. Trump called the Georgian election official to complain about votes that suddenly went missing and the after hours counting (with no observers present) resulting in all the 'votes' being for Biden (a mathematical impossibility!). A WTF call.

Pence WAS violating the Constitution. Trump wanted Pence to follow the Constitution, not violate it. Pence has NO authority to choose the electors for any State (which is what he was doing!).

Note that the 'legitimacy' of the 'election' is simply assumed here, and he is ignoring the evidence that suggests otherwise, even though it's been shown to him multiple times. Also note that he is AGAIN ignoring the fact the Presidents are not elected by popular vote.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

A beautiful method of arguing. Just echo their own idiocy back to them and watch them trap themselves!

I knew you were smart.

This isn't my first rodeo.

 

[Into the Night]

He hasn't been convicted of any of that.

Are you saying some Americans are guilty before having a trial?

ANOTHER brilliant observation by Tinkerpeach!

Yes...they are saying some Americans are guilty and should be punished WITHOUT TRIAL or any due process at all.
The typical DEMOCRAT counter to this is to try to redefine 'indictment' as 'conviction'.

 

[Into the Night]

If you're guilty, you're guilty. A trial doesn't change that - it just determines it.

Again: this is mail-in stuff.

And there it is. QED.