Ex-Justice Stevens death-penalty reversal

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In 1976, just six months after he joined the Supreme Court, Justice John Paul Stevens voted to reinstate capital punishment after a four-year moratorium. With the right procedures, he wrote, it was possible to ensure "evenhanded, rational and consistent imposition of death sentences under law."

In 2008, two years before he announced his retirement, Stevens reversed course and in a concurrence said that he now believed the death penalty to be unconstitutional.

The reason for that change of heart has in many ways remained a mystery, and now Stevens has provided an explanation.

In a detailed, candid and critical essay to be published this week in the New York Review of Books, he wrote that personnel changes on the court, coupled with "regrettable judicial activism," had created a system of capital punishment that is shot through with racism, skewed toward conviction, infected with politics and tinged with hysteria.

The essay is remarkable in itself. But it is also a sign that at 90, Stevens is intent on speaking his mind on issues that may have been off limits while he was on the court. He will be on "60 Minutes" on Sunday night.

The essay is actually a review of the book "Peculiar Institution: America's Death Penalty in an Age of Abolition," by David Garland, a professor of law and sociology at New York University.

Garland attributes American enthusiasm for capital punishment to politics and a cultural fascination with violence and death.

In discussing the book, Stevens defended the promise of the Supreme Court's 1976 decisions reinstating the death penalty even as he detailed the ways in which he said that promise had been betrayed. With the right safeguards, Stevens wrote, it would be possible to isolate the extremely serious crimes for which death is warranted. But he said the Supreme Court has instead systematically dismantled those safeguards.

Stevens said the court took wrong turns in deciding how juries in death penalty cases are chosen and what evidence they may hear, in not looking closely enough at racial disparities in the capital justice system, and in failing to police the role politics can play in decisions to seek and impose the death penalty.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/11/27/MNUA1GICOL.DTL#ixzz16bydkTGj
 
Yeah, Stevens is wrong about it not being constitutional. It was practiced and advocated by several of the founding fathers. Doesn't mean it isn't WRONG, but it does mean it is constitutional. Such disregard for the founders idea and intent.
 
Yeah, Stevens is wrong about it not being constitutional. It was practiced and advocated by several of the founding fathers. Doesn't mean it isn't WRONG, but it does mean it is constitutional. Such disregard for the founders idea and intent.

True. There's evidence to suggest that Madison was opposed to the death penalty and hoped for its eventual abolition, but clearly it does not violate the Constitution. Jefferson and many other founding fathers enforced it.
 
Yeah, Stevens is wrong about it not being constitutional. It was practiced and advocated by several of the founding fathers. Doesn't mean it isn't WRONG, but it does mean it is constitutional. Such disregard for the founders idea and intent.
It is the only penalty listed for the only crime mentioned in the Constitution.
 
The Constitution lists only one crime specifically, that of Treason, and gives the penalty, which is Death.

It's one of those pieces of trivia I'd expect a crowd like the one here to actually know.

To say that the Death Penalty itself is "unconstitutional" itself is a bit daft considering it is the only specific penalty for the only specific crime actually mentioned by the constitution...

Stevens is saying the application we use is unconstitutional as it doesn't provide equal protection, he isn't saying the death penalty itself is unconstitutional.
 
The Constitution lists only one crime specifically, that of Treason, and gives the penalty, which is Death.

It's one of those pieces of trivia I'd expect a crowd like the one here to actually know.

To say that the Death Penalty itself is "unconstitutional" itself is a bit daft considering it is the only specific penalty for the only specific crime actually mentioned by the constitution...

Stevens is saying the application we use is unconstitutional as it doesn't provide equal protection, he isn't saying the death penalty itself is unconstitutional.


Where does the Constitution say that the penalty for treason is death? And isn't piracy also mentioned in the Constitution? It sounds to me like something that sounds true but isn't.

I understand Stevens's argument but thanks for the help.
 
Where does the Constitution say that the penalty for treason is death? And isn't piracy also mentioned in the Constitution? It sounds to me like something that sounds true but isn't.

I understand Stevens's argument but thanks for the help.
Piracy is not defined in the constitution like Treason is, it is the only crime specifically defined by the constitution. That much I do know with 100% surety. However, the penalty may not be given. I'm going off of memory and don't have time to research it.

Anyways, those same founders created this law:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Again, it is silly to suggest it is "unconstitutional" in and of itself, it is the application he is against. He doesn't like that it is applied in such a way as to favor conviction, etc.
 
It's too late, Stevens. You have failed humanity. You didn't fulfill your moral and ethical obligation, that ever human being has, to abolish the death penalty as soon as possible and by any means necessary.
 
True. There's evidence to suggest that Madison was opposed to the death penalty and hoped for its eventual abolition, but clearly it does not violate the Constitution. Jefferson and many other founding fathers enforced it.

I'm pretty sure Jefferson was at one point against it, but who knows, people often change in power. I know that Franklin and Paine were against it. It was somewhat in vogue with the liberal thinkers of time due to the publishing of On Crimes and Punishment, which was notable as being the first book to oppose it on a rational basis rather than solely using Christian faith as a justification.
 
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It's too late, Stevens. You have failed humanity. You didn't fulfill your moral and ethical obligation, that ever human being has, to abolish the death penalty as soon as possible and by any means necessary.

If you sacrifice yourself, so that's in the news, I'll campaign to have the death penalty removed from the courts.
But it has to be within the next 24 hours.

DEAL!! :good4u:
 
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