Exploiting the Constitution

[Evmetro]

Kneeling during the National Anthem is inappropriate and disrespectful. Those who do it may have justification and a cause to do it, but they were not aware of how many people they would offend or how much this mistake would backfire. They could make it right and gain huge support for their cause if they were to admit to making a mistake and make a statement of respect to those who have paid the ultimate price, but they are locked into the lefty political machine who sponsored and promoted their mistake. The MSM and left are engaged in a political war that they will fight to the death in, and the original cause that the kneelers had is now controlled by this lefty political machine.

The reason why the kneeling thing backfired is simple, it was inappropriate and disrespectful. The lefty machine cannot get around this, but their political war strategy does not include admitting mistakes. Instead, they mischaracterize the objections of those who have been grossed out by the mistake. They characterize the objections as objecting to Constitutional rights and agenda of the kneelers, and they navigate around how disrespectful it was for the kneelers to protest at such an inappropriate time and place. They are exploiting the Constitution when they mischaracterize our distaste for the disrespect when they characterize it as some kind of assault on the 1st amendment, and they are doing it as a strategy to win a political war.

The reason why kneeling and exploiting the Constitution is backfiring, is because there just aren't enough stupid people out there who are buying it. There are enough people on both sides of the aisle or no side of the aisle who know better. If the kneelers want to promote their cause, they could launch it like a rocket, they just need to demonstrate that they understand and regret the mistake of protesting at such an inappropriate time and place. Sure the political left would dump them like a hot potato, but they would still have an enormous platform to promote their cause from. Better yet, they could gain support for it.

 

[Nordberg]

You are unable to understand the point. It is not about the flag or the country. They kneel to protest the killing of blacks and minorities by the police. The protesters have the right to protest in peace and they are. It is you rightys who think you have the right to deny them their constitutional rights. You do not understand , or you are ignoring it because you have fooled yourself into believing trump was right. he is absolutely wrong. You should be defending Kaps right to protest if you are a real American. The disrespect for the constitution and the laws is yours.

 

[Evmetro]

You are unable to understand the point. It is not about the flag or the country. They kneel to protest the killing of blacks and minorities by the police. The protesters have the right to protest in peace and they are. It is you rightys who think you have the right to deny them their constitutional rights. You do not understand , or you are ignoring it because you have fooled yourself into believing trump was right. he is absolutely wrong. You should be defending Kaps right to protest if you are a real American. The disrespect for the constitution and the laws is yours.

Thank you for demonstrating exactly what I was describing in the opening post.

 

[Legion]

You are unable to understand the point. It is not about the flag or the country. They kneel to protest the killing of blacks and minorities by the police. The protesters have the right to protest in peace and they are. It is you rightys who think you have the right to deny them their constitutional rights. You do not understand , or you are ignoring it because you have fooled yourself into believing trump was right. he is absolutely wrong. You should be defending Kaps right to protest if you are a real American. The disrespect for the constitution and the laws is yours.

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution says that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The first thing to know about the First Amendment is that it is a limit only on government. It prohibits the federal government from making laws that infringe on the rights of religion, speech, press, assembly and petition. Through the Fourteenth Amendment, state and local governments are also prohibited from infringing on these rights.

https://www.workplacefairness.org/retaliation-public-employees

 

[Nordberg]

Thank you for demonstrating exactly what I was describing in the opening post.

Well you certainly were proud to show your complete and utter lack of understanding of constitutional rights vs your right to your baseless beliefs. You are wrong. But you think you have a right to take away someones first amendment rights because it annoys you.Some people can't learn. You really cannot see how wrong you are? Nope, a trumpy.

 

[Evmetro]

Well you certainly were proud to show your complete and utter lack of understanding of constitutional rights vs your right to your baseless beliefs. You are wrong. But you think you have a right to take away someones first amendment rights because it annoys you.Some people can't learn. You really cannot see how wrong you are? Nope, a trumpy.

Thank you for demonstrating exactly what I was describing in the opening post

 

[Ross Dolan]

Kneeling during the National Anthem is inappropriate and disrespectful.

Kneeling during the national anthem is NOT inappropriate nor disrespectful for a large number of people...and simply because it is for you does not mean it is "exploiting the Constitution."

If you think exercising rights guaranteed by the Constitution is "exploiting" that document...you really do not understand it.

Those who do it may have justification and a cause to do it, but they were not aware of how many people they would offend or how much this mistake would backfire.

Those who do it...are exercising the rights guaranteed by the document.

Wake up.

And stop pretending you are protesting their protests because you are worried it will backfire on them. If you thought for a second it would backfire on them...you would be encouraging them to continue to do it.



The rest of your opening post is silly...so I'll leave it be.

My guess is you wrote this silliness so that when anyone responds, you will offer a version of, "Thank you for demonstrating exactly what I was describing in the opening post."

Okay...get your rocks off. I can use the laugh.

 

[Evmetro]

Kneeling during the national anthem is NOT inappropriate nor disrespectful for a large number of people...and simply because it is for you does not mean it is "exploiting the Constitution."

I realize that we are from opposing sides of the political war, but I have come to expect more from you than from the garden variety lefty. You have failed to demonstrate that you have read and understand the opening post. Nowhere in the opening post did I state that kneeling during the National Anthem is exploiting the Constitution, and you have commented in a way that shows that you did not look for a connection between the text and the title. While this basic step is not required of you or any member here, I have read enough of your posts to know that you do tend read more carefully than the average lefty does

If you think exercising rights guaranteed by the Constitution is "exploiting" that document...you really do not understand it.

Again, you did not read the text enough to find out what the title of the thread means. Your reply to the opening post is an example of the meaning of the title that is found within the text. Like Nordberg, you have actually demonstrated what the opening post is about. I am disappointed that you were not witty enough this time around to post something of merit that also demonstrates that you read and understood the opening post.

Those who do it...are exercising the rights guaranteed by the document.

Wake up.

Discussion of exercising rights has absolutely no merit and will not stick if you take the situation out of the correct context. The correct context for the kneeling thing must include and address the fact that the situation is occurring at the workplace, and that the workers are in fact 100% free to find another place to work. It must also include and address the fact that it is not the government that is imposing the workplace conduct requirements that you are so against. If you must present the situation out of its correct context, then you are relying on deception in order to make your point. It won't work.

And stop pretending you are protesting their protests because you are worried it will backfire on them.

I do not recall saying I was worried about backfiring, this is all you.

 

[Nordberg]

Thank you for demonstrating exactly what I was describing in the opening post

Well you were completely wrong. Not inappropriate . Kap merely dropped a knee in silent protest. How did that effect you? What of your rights did that take away or abridge? Why none. But yuu assume that you should be able to take away his rights. A right that was silently and quietly being expressed.

 

[ptif219]

You are unable to understand the point. It is not about the flag or the country. They kneel to protest the killing of blacks and minorities by the police. The protesters have the right to protest in peace and they are. It is you rightys who think you have the right to deny them their constitutional rights. You do not understand , or you are ignoring it because you have fooled yourself into believing trump was right. he is absolutely wrong. You should be defending Kaps right to protest if you are a real American. The disrespect for the constitution and the laws is yours.

So it is another racists thing like BLM. It is disrespectful and has no place in sports

 

[ptif219]

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution says that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The first thing to know about the First Amendment is that it is a limit only on government. It prohibits the federal government from making laws that infringe on the rights of religion, speech, press, assembly and petition. Through the Fourteenth Amendment, state and local governments are also prohibited from infringing on these rights.

https://www.workplacefairness.org/retaliation-public-employees

Just remember free speech has consequences and people do not have to agree with you

 

[ptif219]

Well you were completely wrong. Not inappropriate . Kap merely dropped a knee in silent protest. How did that effect you? What of your rights did that take away or abridge? Why none. But yuu assume that you should be able to take away his rights. A right that was silently and quietly being expressed.

It was disrespect for the flag the anthem the military and veterans and law enforcement not to mention everything this country stands for. But I am sure liberals will never understand that

 

[Legion]

Kap merely dropped a knee in silent protest. How did that effect you? What of your rights did that take away or abridge? Why none. But yuu assume that you should be able to take away his rights. A right that was silently and quietly being expressed.

Protesting against police brutality in the workplace is not a Constitutional right.

 

[Legion]

It was disrespect for the flag the anthem the military and veterans and law enforcement not to mention everything this country stands for. But I am sure liberals will never understand that

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Just remember people do not have to agree with you

 

[Ross Dolan]

I realize that we are from opposing sides of the political war, but I have come to expect more from you than from the garden variety lefty. You have failed to demonstrate that you have read and understand the opening post. Nowhere in the opening post did I state that kneeling during the National Anthem is exploiting the Constitution, and you have commented in a way that shows that you did not look for a connection between the text and the title. While this basic step is not required of you or any member here, I have read enough of your posts to know that you do tend read more carefully than the average lefty does



Again, you did not read the text enough to find out what the title of the thread means. Your reply to the opening post is an example of the meaning of the title that is found within the text. Like Nordberg, you have actually demonstrated what the opening post is about. I am disappointed that you were not witty enough this time around to post something of merit that also demonstrates that you read and understood the opening post.






Discussion of exercising rights has absolutely no merit and will not stick if you take the situation out of the correct context. The correct context for the kneeling thing must include and address the fact that the situation is occurring at the workplace, and that the workers are in fact 100% free to find another place to work. It must also include and address the fact that it is not the government that is imposing the workplace conduct requirements that you are so against. If you must present the situation out of its correct context, then you are relying on deception in order to make your point. It won't work.



I do not recall saying I was worried about backfiring, this is all you.

NOt sure what the hell you are trying to pull here, but it has as much chance of working as you have of spending holiday on the Sun.

YOU wrote: "Kneeling during the National Anthem is inappropriate and disrespectful. "

I responded, "Kneeling during the national anthem is NOT inappropriate nor disrespectful for a large number of people...and simply because it is for you does not mean it is "exploiting the Constitution."

If you want to pretend that even if the first part of my response is correct...the second constitutes a misreading of your general theme...you better try selling that snake oil somewhere else.

The title of your thread is, "Exploiting the Constitution"...and THE FIRST WORDS YOU WROTE were, "Kneeling during the National Anthem is inappropriate and disrespectful."

So get off the indignation...and the myth that people reading this "attempt at whatever" just misread you.

We are reading you loud and clear.

Now...perhaps it is time for you to read yourself with as much clarity.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

the constitution is meaningless now. both the left and the right ignore most of it in order to pursue and enforce their own political agendas and ideologies, preferring to just use government to use force against those who would not comply.

 

[ptif219]

the constitution is meaningless now. both the left and the right ignore most of it in order to pursue and enforce their own political agendas and ideologies, preferring to just use government to use force against those who would not comply.

I know of no-one that calls it unconstitutional. But does disrespect for this country. Next they will say they aren't proud this country. Where have we heard that before?