Fed Expected to Cut Rates for 2nd Time

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Mortgage rates coming down folks.. the bottom of the housing market is at hand. Dont miss the wave again.. time to buy. :cool:



AP
Fed Expected to Cut Rates for 2nd Time
Wednesday October 31, 7:43 am ET
By Martin Crutsinger, AP Economics Writer
Federal Reserve Expected to Cut Rates for a Second Time in an Effort to Ward Off a Recession

WASHINGTON (AP) -- With oil prices soaring and the housing market sinking, the Federal Reserve is likely to combat the economic turmoil with more interest rate cuts.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and his colleagues were wrapping up a two-day meeting Wednesday and many economists believe they will announce that they have decided to follow September's half-point cut in the federal funds rate with a quarter-point cut at this meeting.

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"They are going to cut rates," predicted Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Economy.com. "The economy is weakening and financial markets remain unsettled."

Many analysts said this rate reduction probably will not be the last either, as the central bank keeps reducing rates to help the economy overcome a host of problems.

The Fed cut the federal funds rate, the interest that banks charge each other, for the first time in four years at its September meeting, reducing it to 4.75 percent. Responding to that move, commercial banks cut their prime lending rate, the benchmark for millions of consumer and business loans, by a half-point as well to 7.75 percent.

The economy's troubles include the worst slump in housing in more than two decades and a credit crunch that roiled financial markets this summer when investors suddenly became concerned about mounting losses from defaults on subprime mortgages.

With lenders tightening mortgage standards, marking it harder for prospective buyers to qualify for loans, and defaults continuing to rise, the slump in housing has deepened.

Financial markets also have a new worry in the latest surge in oil prices. Crude oil prices have hit records above $93 per barrel.

The worry is that the combination of the deep slump in housing, a lingering credit-crunch and rising oil prices will severely dampen consumer spending, the economy's main growth engine, in the months ahead.

"The economy is facing a perfect storm right now of a crisis-related tightening of credit, higher oil prices and lower house prices," said David Jones, chief economist at DMJ Advisors, a Denver forecasting firm. "We are going to see a significant slowing in growth."

Jones forecast that the overall economy, as measured by the gross domestic product, will slow to a rate of 1.5 percent for this quarter and will dip even lower to a rate of 1.3 percent in the first three months of next year.

That sluggish pace would make the economy vulnerable to some type of economic shock that could push GDP growth into the negative territory that signals a recession.

"The consumer is getting squeezed right now between falling home prices and rising oil prices," said David Wyss, chief economist at Standard & Poor's in New York. "They have got to slow down. It is just a question of how much and how fast."

In two worrisome developments, the Conference Board's consumer confidence index fell for a third consecutive month in October, dropping to the lowest level in two years, while the S&P/Case-Shiller Index of home prices, based on 20 cities around the country, dropped by a record 5 percent in August.

Many analysts believe that GDP growth in the just-completed July-September quarter came in at a solid rate of around 3.1 percent, down only slightly from the 3.8 percent growth rate in the spring.

But the ongoing credit and housing problems and the renewed surge of energy prices are expected to exact a toll in upcoming months with the economy not expected to regain its balance until mid-2008. Many analysts believe that in addition to a rate cut Wednesday, the Fed will cut rates at its final meeting of the year in December and possibly at its January meeting as well.

Lyle Gramley, a former Fed board member and now an economist with Stanford Financial Group, put the chances of a recession at around 40 percent, saying the Fed's primary concern right now is what is happening in housing and how much of a spillover that will have on the overall economy.

"It is possible that the housing industry will take us over the edge into a recession," he said, noting that every housing downturn of the past 60 years with the exception of two have triggered recessions.

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buy stocks I think we are several months to several qtrs from the bottom of the housing recession.
 
Housing market is going to get worse next year. Mortgage rates should indeed come down with another Fed cut, but credit policies have tightened which means those that need to re-fi from ARMs and interest only loans will likely not qualify. A lot of ARMs and I-only loans resetting next year.

I would be willing to bet that the 3.9% growth gets revised down in future quarters. That said, the economy is still growing at a decent clip given the housing problems. Defensive stocks and tech are good places to be right now.
 
I just shifted a nice profit from china into microsoft, cisco, intel, and merk.
I'd say 3.9 is near remarkable considering the housing sector drag.
 
Well considering govt spending was up 4.1 and 3.7 for the last 2 quarters. Seems like we might be trying to spend our way out on credit.
 
wow that's almost close to partially relevant.
Our copr sector is doing gangbuster, the gov spending should be down but sadly it' s not. It's also not a major factor.
 
The US has reached a rate that we now have more debt than savings on average....

Another cut only bodes ill for the dollar. I'll be moving more of mine into foreign funds to stop-loss on the value of the dollar.
 
Of course it is not a factor since we are only talking about a 2.9 trillion budget for next year not counting extra war spending.
 
war spending is always too high
fed isn' t pumping shit, they overtightened by a couple hikes and now are prudently backtracking.
 
The US has reached a rate that we now have more debt than savings on average....

Another cut only bodes ill for the dollar. I'll be moving more of mine into foreign funds to stop-loss on the value of the dollar.

I am heavy into gold right now for that very reason.
 
I just shifted a nice profit from china into microsoft, cisco, intel, and merk.
I'd say 3.9 is near remarkable considering the housing sector drag.

china still has another year before there big crash. im staying in for 12 more months.
 
war spending is always too high
fed isn' t pumping shit, they overtightened by a couple hikes and now are prudently backtracking.

Not talking about war spending top. Side note: you obviously are not paying attention if you think the Fed hasn't been throwing billions into the market to stem the housing debacle. We are not talking about Fed Funds increases or decreases, we are talking about the cash they are throwing into the markets.

Also, you are wrong that they went to far with the raises. From an economic point of view, they should have left rates unchanged, but felt they were forced to cut by 50bps last time to hold off the housing blow up. That is also why they will cut again today.
 
gold is at a 38 yr high or something like that.
I have a bit squirreled away and my gold mine stock has done just wonderful :clink:
 
I've been rather heavy in gold for about two years now. It's been good to me.

yes it has been very good. More Fed cuts mean weaker dollar and should boost gold even further. I think we will see 850 by the end of the year, maybe 900 if the Fed cuts another 50bps. Probably close to 1000 by June.
 
gold is at a 38 yr high or something like that.
I have a bit squirreled away and my gold mine stock has done just wonderful :clink:

yes and it will likely break its all time high within the next six months (my personal guess is that it will be Dec/January timeframe)
 
supercoldcaller, if they are throwing money losening up then they were taking it out on the tighning side.
I do agree they shouldn't have bailed out so many banks with the discount window situation, though most economist argue they avoided much more pain in the general economy.
 
yes it has been very good. More Fed cuts mean weaker dollar and should boost gold even further. I think we will see 850 by the end of the year, maybe 900 if the Fed cuts another 50bps. Probably close to 1000 by June.

Gold, gold, gold. This all sounds so clinical. I know you guys are interested in ways to make money, but it almost sounds like you’re hoping for a weaker dollar to boost your gold prices.

A weak dollar hurts most Americans, not least of which are vastly increased energy prices, and ultimately economic instability for working americans. I understand these are the consequences of your voting choices: an incompetent president who promotes a weak dollar policy, job-killing phony “free” trade agreements, and driving energy prices up by building risk into the speculation costs of oil because of his saber-rattling on iran and his love of war in the Persian gulf.

It’s cool you’re making money on gold. But, I wish you guys would show your soul once in a while. ;)
 
For those who don't have a ton of money to buy Gold Eagles, etc.

Buy GLD or IAU on the market. Each share goes for about 1/10th of the value of an ounce. If you buy at places like buyandhold.com you can even purchase portions of a share....

Get in, even small, you won't be unsatisfied.
 
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