For such a political blunder, Berman must have been closing in on something big!.

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Tacomaman

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Let us examine this collisial tRump disaster from a logical perspective:

tRump appointed Berman at Rudy's request. tRump must have thought that Berman (like Rudy) was corruptible. Obviously, tRump was deeply mistaken.

Now, it looks like tRump is trying to throw Barr under the bus. Barr claims that tRump fired Bergman. tRump says that he had nothing to do with it. As such, which of these habitual liars are we to believe?

Of the many blunders that tRump has made, this one may be the worst yet. When you fire a prosecutor who is investigating your associates, you look guilty. In addition, since he is fired, Bergman is free to testify before Congress.

Lastly, trump's chosen successor - Jay Clayton - will have to go through a very intense confirmation hearing process. This will subject Clayton to questions involving tRump and Deutsche Bank. These are inquiries that tRump will avoid at all cost.

In a nutshell, this may be the biggest blunder from the "Stable Genius" to date. Then again, tRump may well have had no choice depending on what Berman had uncovered.
 
Rudi and his associates, plus either this office, or the NY Attorney General, has their case infront of the SCOTUS to be decided by the end of June which could have a huge say in Trump having to release those "audited" Income Tax Returns
 
Hello Tacomaman,

Tacomaman said:
Let us examine this collisial tRump disaster from a logical perspective:

tRump appointed Berman at Rudy's request. tRump must have thought that Berman (like Rudy) was corruptible. Obviously, tRump was deeply mistaken.

Now, it looks like tRump is trying to throw Barr under the bus. Barr claims that tRump fired Bergman. tRump says that he had nothing to do with it. As such, which of these habitual liars are we to believe?

Of the many blunders that tRump has made, this one may be the worst yet. When you fire a prosecutor who is investigating your associates, you look guilty. In addition, since he is fired, Bergman is free to testify before Congress.

Lastly, trump's chosen successor - Jay Clayton - will have to go through a very intense confirmation hearing process. This will subject Clayton to questions involving tRump and Deutsche Bank. These are inquiries that tRump will avoid at all cost.

In a nutshell, this may be the biggest blunder from the "Stable Genius" to date. Then again, tRump may well have had no choice depending on what Berman had uncovered.
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I heard that Barr has no authority to fire Berman. It has to come from the president.

So unless the president fires Berman, he still has a job.

Berman knows this, but he was convinced to 'resign' on Saturday.

That tells me DT actually did it, but is trying to tell the public a lie about it.

Can you imagine? The president lying outright?

That's a good way to lose the faith of the majority of Americans.

Oh, silly me!

You can't lose what you never had.
 
This was a political blunder of epic proportion. To have done it-especially so close to the election-there had to be a strong reason. My guess is that Berman had uncovered something damaging to tRump.
 
If Trump was smart, he would have stepped down and turned the presidency over to Pence who would have given Trump a pardon for all of his crimes.

Now Donald Trump will spend the rest of his life in NEW YORK DISTRICT courtrooms defending his crimes for Tax Evasion, Tax Fraud, Rape, Sexual Harassment, Lying to Investigators, Bribing witnesses, Money Laundering, Bribing Foreign Nationals, covering up evidence, Bribing our own Government officials, Improper use of Campaign dollars, and the list just keeps getting larger.

Because I doubt seriously if Biden will pardon him. He may as an effort to heal the nation, but not likely as somebody needs to go to prison to prevent corrupt presidents in the future!
 
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A little over 4 months to the election and Trump fired the SDNY prosecutor and the entire leadership of Voice of America. How can he justify doing that? Because he can. That is what Repubs say, however that is inadequate. He does have to have a reason for doing it and I would like to know. The VOA firing was making Putin cream in his jeans. That is the only logical reason. He is still paying him off as he goes out the door.
 
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Or not. Berman was a judicial appointee to a temporary position. Given the way Trump hires and fires people, it's more likely this is just another routine personnel change.
 
Tacomaman said:
This was a political blunder of epic proportion. To have done it-especially so close to the election-there had to be a strong reason. My guess is that Berman had uncovered something damaging to tRump.
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If so, wouldn't firing him be considered obstruction? I'm betting that's exactly what it is, and explains why the Toadstool lied about ordering his removal and tried to lay it at Barr's dirty doorstep.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
If Trump was smart, he would have stepped down and turned the presidency over to Pence who would have given Trump a pardon for all of his crimes.

Now Donald Trump will spend the rest of his life in NEW YORK DISTRICT courtrooms defending his crimes for Tax Evasion, Tax Fraud, Rape, Sexual Harassment, Lying to Investigators, Bribing witnesses, Money Laundering, Bribing Foreign Nationals, covering up evidence, Bribing our own Government officials, Improper use of Campaign dollars, and the list just keeps getting larger.

Because I doubt seriously if Biden will pardon him. He may as an effort to heal the nation, but not likely as somebody needs to go to prison to prevent corrupt presidents in the future!
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I'm sorry, but your entire post failed with the first four words. lol

I don't believe that a president can pardon anything but federal crimes.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Or not. Berman was a judicial appointee to a temporary position. Given the way Trump hires and fires people, it's more likely this is just another routine personnel change.
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Berman was selected by tRump for that position. tRump incorrectly assumed that Berman would be a tRump "loyalist". As usual, tRump was wrong.

That said, tRump doesn't have "routine" personnel changes. His arexdriven by some underlying motive. Typically stupidity, but driven nonetheless.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Or not. Berman was a judicial appointee to a temporary position. Given the way Trump hires and fires people, it's more likely this is just another routine personnel change.
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No way. We have a good idea of what Berman was working on and his office already put Cohen in jail. This is not some random firing. You do not fire prosecutors when it is about 4+ months from the election. This is a highly visible prosecutor and a well-known organization. A sane president, with nothing to fear, would not have done this.
 
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For the Lincoln Project, tRump just gave them several rounds of campaign ad material.
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Just like in 2016, the local and national news that we watch (NBC) gives the Toadstool lots of air time. It's often negative, but it's still attention. We might see a few seconds now and then of Biden.

Yet Biden still leads in the polls. :laugh:
 
Have you ever noticed how tRump smiles at the camera while saying "Fake news"? He loves the airtime and attention. The hilarious part is that his 'koolaiders" cannot see what he is doing.
If he REALLY thought that the coverage was "fake", he would just simply ignore the press.
 
Tacomaman said:
Berman was selected by tRump for that position. tRump incorrectly assumed that Berman would be a tRump "loyalist". As usual, tRump was wrong.

That said, tRump doesn't have "routine" personnel changes. His arexdriven by some underlying motive. Typically stupidity, but driven nonetheless.
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Not true. Berman was a rare "judicial" appointee put in the position by the federal courts to fill an opening until Trump did appoint someone, or for 120 days. So, Trump did not appoint him.
 
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