Ford or Chevy?
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Is there a 3rd? The Germans make the best automobiles in the world....period. A couple of models are "over-engineered"....but as far as quality goes, nothing beats German engineering. The US produces "cookie cutter" models stolen from Europe and Japan. With that said, nothing beats American Muscle for sheer ground pounding fun....and the US still makes the most reliable and best known engine on earth.....the "small block" V-8.
Japan. Germany has turned to site love volvo
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Owned three Fords and got my money's worth from all three. Still have one. 10 years old and never had a major problem with it. Only general maintenance.
Chevy - my first car was a 55 Chevy and my last will be ??? Traverse this time. Right now we have the Buick Enclave, as is usually the case the Japanese and Koreans are copying it for size and seating. Nothing new there, Japs especially are always copying America development. Today I'd never buy a foreign car and will only buy American made here. Car manufactures make 50% of their profits from high end cars and now all you see among the pretentious is Lexus, Mercedes, Audi. Equus, Genesis Infinity, Range R.... The very same people who whine about the economy. Years ago my wife had a Pontiac Bonneville, had heads up, a compass, tire pump, etc etc now the high end foreign copycats are doing same. GM even started the safety light on during the day, now every one has lights galore. A little overdone imho.
Buy American, even Donald Trump mentioned the Japanese dumping cars. One item I agree with him on. See all those dealers, and meanwhile Americans whine about jobs. People complain that GM got a gov loan while the Japanese engage in keiretsu. And German union workers make twice what Americans do, have healthcare, and free college.
Support America: http://www.american.edu/kogod/autoindex/2015.cfm and http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org
http://searchcio-midmarket.techtarget.com/definition/keiretsu#
'In 2014, Chevrolet sold 597 cars in Japan. No, we are not forgetting any zeroes at the end of that figure.'
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ald-trump-chevrolet-tokyo-japan-doesnt-exist/
"While it may come as no shock that luxury-car maker Mercedes-Benz came out atop the list of least-recalled brands, with an average 0.41 units recalled per vehicle sold, General Motors, with nearly 100 million vehicles recalled since 1985, actually placed third-best, with 0.65 cars and trucks recalled per unit sold.
Of the 15 major automakers surveyed, Hyundai Motor Company can lay claim to having the worst ratio, with 1.15 vehicles recalled for every model sold since it introduced the Excel to U.S. buyers in 1986. Other brands found to have recalled more cars than they sold in the U.S. over the last 30 years (needless to say this represents a number of cars for which multiple campaigns were initiated) include Mitsubishi, Volkswagen and Volvo; Chrysler broke even, so to speak, with a one-to-one sales-to-recall ratio. (Scroll down for the full results.)" http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorz...ers-with-the-lowest-and-highest-recall-rates/
'Toyota leads in recalls again in 2013, with tally topping 5 million vehicles'
http://www.autonews.com/article/201...ls-again-in-2013-with-tally-topping-5-million
'Toyota's Out-of-Control Gas Pedals, 2009 & 2010, Size of Recall: 9 million vehicles Models Affected: 2004-2010 Toyota Avalon, Camry, Corolla, Matrix, Highlander, Prius, RAV4, Tundra, Tacoma and various Lexus models.'....Company officials have estimated the cost of the blunder will top $5 billion after all is said and done, making it the costliest recall ever recorded.' http://www.investopedia.com/slide-show/car-recalls/#ixzz3pr8a23BP
http://www.americanmanufacturing.or...-care-about-the-trans-pacific-partnership-tpp
http://www.americanmanufacturing.or...-of-congress-urge-action-on-dumped-steel-pipe
http://prospect.org/article/alabama-steelworkers-fight-their-jobs-threatened-korea-trade-ruling
"Because Ford, GM and Chrysler conduct far more of their research, design, engineering, manufacturing and assembly work in the U.S. than foreign automakers do, buying a Ford, GM, or Chrysler supports almost three times as many jobs as buying the average foreign automobile. Some comparisons are even more striking. Buying a Ford supports 3.5 times more jobs than buying a Hyundai. Comparing a Honda and a Hyundai? Buying a Honda supports more than 2 times more jobs."
http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/jpc_rating.html
Buy American, even Donald Trump mentioned the Japanese dumping cars. One item I agree with him on. See all those dealers, and meanwhile Americans whine about jobs. People complain that GM got a gov loan while the Japanese engage in keiretsu. And German union workers make twice what Americans do, have healthcare, and free college.
Support America: http://www.american.edu/kogod/autoindex/2015.cfm and http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org
http://searchcio-midmarket.techtarget.com/definition/keiretsu#
'In 2014, Chevrolet sold 597 cars in Japan. No, we are not forgetting any zeroes at the end of that figure.'
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ald-trump-chevrolet-tokyo-japan-doesnt-exist/
"While it may come as no shock that luxury-car maker Mercedes-Benz came out atop the list of least-recalled brands, with an average 0.41 units recalled per vehicle sold, General Motors, with nearly 100 million vehicles recalled since 1985, actually placed third-best, with 0.65 cars and trucks recalled per unit sold.
Of the 15 major automakers surveyed, Hyundai Motor Company can lay claim to having the worst ratio, with 1.15 vehicles recalled for every model sold since it introduced the Excel to U.S. buyers in 1986. Other brands found to have recalled more cars than they sold in the U.S. over the last 30 years (needless to say this represents a number of cars for which multiple campaigns were initiated) include Mitsubishi, Volkswagen and Volvo; Chrysler broke even, so to speak, with a one-to-one sales-to-recall ratio. (Scroll down for the full results.)" http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorz...ers-with-the-lowest-and-highest-recall-rates/
'Toyota leads in recalls again in 2013, with tally topping 5 million vehicles'
http://www.autonews.com/article/201...ls-again-in-2013-with-tally-topping-5-million
'Toyota's Out-of-Control Gas Pedals, 2009 & 2010, Size of Recall: 9 million vehicles Models Affected: 2004-2010 Toyota Avalon, Camry, Corolla, Matrix, Highlander, Prius, RAV4, Tundra, Tacoma and various Lexus models.'....Company officials have estimated the cost of the blunder will top $5 billion after all is said and done, making it the costliest recall ever recorded.' http://www.investopedia.com/slide-show/car-recalls/#ixzz3pr8a23BP
http://www.americanmanufacturing.or...-care-about-the-trans-pacific-partnership-tpp
http://www.americanmanufacturing.or...-of-congress-urge-action-on-dumped-steel-pipe
http://prospect.org/article/alabama-steelworkers-fight-their-jobs-threatened-korea-trade-ruling
"Because Ford, GM and Chrysler conduct far more of their research, design, engineering, manufacturing and assembly work in the U.S. than foreign automakers do, buying a Ford, GM, or Chrysler supports almost three times as many jobs as buying the average foreign automobile. Some comparisons are even more striking. Buying a Ford supports 3.5 times more jobs than buying a Hyundai. Comparing a Honda and a Hyundai? Buying a Honda supports more than 2 times more jobs."
http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/jpc_rating.html
Legion Troll
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My company has both GMC 2500 pickups and Ford F250 models. The suspensions on the Fords are so unsteady as to send the vehicle into the next lane if there is a small bump in the road, where the GMC's are steady and comfortable over the same road surface. Fords are dangerous krappy kraapola I have tested both
The last three Chevys I've had have been great. All over 280,000 miles (2 over 300,000) and the two trucks were running just fine at the time I got rid of them. The Tahoe had to have a bit of work on a transfer case but that is the only repair outside of routine maintenance. Still driving that Tahoe.
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