Franklin D. Roosevelt

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Only US President to serve more than two terms.

At the age of 39, he fell ill while vacationing at Campobello Island in Canada.

He was diagnosed with Polio.

His illness left him paralyzed from the waist down for the rest of his life.

He died on April 12th, 1945...at the age of 63.
 
The only US President to intern American citizens and seize their property simply because of their ethnicity.
 
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tff said:
Only US President to serve more than two terms.

At the age of 39, he fell ill while vacationing at Campobello Island in Canada.

He was diagnosed with Polio.

His illness left him paralyzed from the waist down for the rest of his life.

He died on April 12th, 1945...at the age of 63.
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He was truly one of the greatest Presidents.
 
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Chaz said:
He put the Krauts in their place.
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Damn I thought Ike was Supreme Commander Allied Expeditionary Force (SCAEF) in the European theatre. I didn't know FDR called all the shots. How did they get his wheelchair up Omaha beach after it was secured?
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Damn I thought Ike was Supreme Commander Allied Expeditionary Force (SCAEF) in the European theatre. I didn't know FDR called all the shots. How did they get his wheelchair up Omaha beach after it was secured?
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FDR was commander in chief.

More importantly, FDR's vision was a relentless assault on Nazi Germany, waging total war on them to coerce them into an unconditional surrender, occupying Germany, dismantling their government, and re-making them from the ground up.

There was a huge isolationist sentiment in the United States who either did not want to commit to war in Europe, or once committed to war who were willing to consider a conditional surrender with Hitler and offering terms to Nazi Germany.
 
countryboy said:
Only leftist lunatics think interning Americans was a "good" thing.
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It is easy to look back with hindsight and see how wrong it was.

There is no guarantee that if you were born in 1920, and did not have the hindsight you have now, that you would have been protesting in 1942 in the streets against the incarceration of Japanese Americans.

Somehow, I do not think you would have protested or lifted a finger to stop it. Even Canada was incarcerating it's citizens of Japanese descent during WW2..

With the perspective we have now, what happened was obviously unconditional and criminal. Bill Clinton did the right thing by apologizing on behalf of the US government and offering some modest - if probably inadequate - compensation.
 
Cypress said:
FDR was commander in chief.

More importantly, FDR's vision was a relentless assault on Nazi Germany, waging total war on them to coerce them into an unconditional surrender, occupying Germany, dismantling their government, and re-making them from the ground up.

There was a huge isolationist sentiment in the United States who either did not want to commit to war in Europe, or once committed to war who were willing to consider a conditional surrender with Hitler and offering terms to Nazi Germany.
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As CIC does the president participate in the planning and execution of military operations? Sorry sport but the CIC picks the commanders to carry out military operations. Thus it was Ike that defeated the Nazi's on the battle field. Not very knowledgeable of how the military operates are you?
 
Eagle_Eye said:
As CIC does the president participate in the planning and execution of military operations? Sorry sport but the CIC picks the commanders to carry out military operations. Thus it was Ike that defeated the Nazi's on the battle field. Not very knowledgeable of how the military operates are you?
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Eisenhower was executing the stategic vision of FDR at the operational and tactical level: to wage relentless total war on Nazi Germany, utterly destroy their nation, coerce them into an unconditional surrender, and completely dismantle their government and remake them from a historically aggressor nation into as a quasi-pacifist nation.

That is a tall order which is not contemplated in all wars.

There were most certainly isolationists in the U.S. who would have been satisfied with a limited war on Hitler and ending hostilities by offering reasonably generous surrender terms.

This nation is fortunate to have had presidents (FDR-Truman) who were committed to the utter destruction of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, and committed to completely re-making the world in the aftermath.

And as importantly, one who had the force of personality and charisma to actually make it happen.
 
Cypress said:
Eisenhower was executing the stategic vision of FDR at the operational and tactical level: to wage relentless total war on Nazi Germany, utterly destroy their nation, coerce them into an unconditional surrender, and completely dismantle their government and remake them from a historically aggressor nation into as a quasi-pacifist nation.

That is a tall order which is not contemplated in all wars.

There were most certainly isolationists in the U.S. who would have been satisfied with a limited war on Hitler and ending hostilities by offering reasonably generous surrender terms.

This nation is fortunate to have had presidents (FDR-Truman) who were committed to the utter destruction of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, and committed to completely re-making the world in the aftermath.

And as importantly, one who had the force of personality and charisma to actually make it happen.
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Again you prove you know absolutely nothing about the president's role as commander in chief. The president sets policy the military carries out the policy, so dumb ass Ike and McArthur won the war not the FDR or HST.
 
Cypress said:
Eisenhower was executing the stategic vision of FDR at the operational and tactical level: to wage relentless total war on Nazi Germany, utterly destroy their nation, coerce them into an unconditional surrender, and completely dismantle their government and remake them from a historically aggressor nation into as a quasi-pacifist nation.

That is a tall order which is not contemplated in all wars.

There were most certainly isolationists in the U.S. who would have been satisfied with a limited war on Hitler and ending hostilities by offering reasonably generous surrender terms.

This nation is fortunate to have had presidents (FDR-Truman) who were committed to the utter destruction of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, and committed to completely re-making the world in the aftermath.

And as importantly, one who had the force of personality and charisma to actually make it happen.
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Eagle_Eye said:
Again you prove you know absolutely nothing about the president's role as commander in chief. The president sets policy the military carries out the policy, so dumb ass Ike and McArthur won the war not the FDR or HST.
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Eisenhower himself said he disagreed with FDR's strategy of total war on Nazi Germany, and would have preferred to end hostilities by offering the Nazis more generous surrender terms. But as a soldier, he was required to execute the strategic vision of the president at the operational scale.

Eisenhower Regrets Policy of Total Surrender; Asserts Roosevelt Erred in His World War, II Goal; Says the Fear of U.S. Terms Sparred Nazis to Fight

https://www.nytimes.com/1964/12/21/...icy-of-total-surrender-asserts-roosevelt.html
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Cypress said:
Eisenhower himself said he disagreed with FDR's strategy of total war on Nazi Germany, and would have preferred to end hostilities by offering the Nazis more generous surrender terms. But as a soldier, he was required to execute the strategic vision of the president at the operational scale.
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Eagle, here is the way war works.

Strategic vision and goals are set by political leaders: FDR, Stalin, Churchill.

Generals and admirals execute those strategies and goals at the operational level: Eisenhower, Nimitz, MacArthur.

Nobody in their right mind ever suggested FDR was checking tide tables for Normandy in June 1944
 
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