George Tenet confirms what the Downing Street Memos told us years ago

[Cypress]

“There was never a serious debate that I know of within the administration about the imminence of the Iraqi threat,” Mr. Tenet writes in a devastating judgment that is likely to be debated for many years. Nor, he adds, “was there ever a significant discussion” about the possibility of containing Iraq without an invasion." -- GEORGE TENET

i.e., the decision to invade was made at least as early as summer 2002, and the adminstration merely had to hype and exaggerate what little intelligence we did have on Iraq, to support that policy decision.

"The intelligence and facts were being FIXED around the policy"

-British MI5 Director, in Downing Street memo

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/w...32d75afb5&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

 

[OrnotBitwise]

“There was never a serious debate that I know of within the administration about the imminence of the Iraqi threat,” Mr. Tenet writes in a devastating judgment that is likely to be debated for many years. Nor, he adds, “was there ever a significant discussion” about the possibility of containing Iraq without an invasion." -- GEORGE TENET

i.e., the decision to invade was made at least as early as summer 2002, and the adminstration merely had to hype and exaggerate what little intelligence we did have on Iraq, to support that policy decision.






http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/w...32d75afb5&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

The sad thing is we've become so used to the idea now that many people have forgotten why this was significant in the first place. In a nutshell, this means that Bush did indeed lie to the American people, as did those in his adminstration party to these non-discussions. Specifically, Rice and Cheney, among others.

 

[Cypress]

The sad thing is we've become so used to the idea now that many people have forgotten why this was significant in the first place. In a nutshell, this means that Bush did indeed lie to the American people, as did those in his adminstration party to these non-discussions. Specifically, Rice and Cheney, among others.

That's what I was thinking. Bush lied to congress and the american people. That's just a tad more impeachable, than a blow job.

 

[LadyT]

Yet this slime ball went along for the ride and he's going to make millions off of it.

I'll tell you what whoever has the cajones to really push for an impeachment, will probably have my vote throughout their entire career.

 

[Cypress]

Yet this slime ball went along for the ride and he's going to make millions off of it.

I'll tell you what whoever has the cajones to really push for an impeachment, will probably have my vote throughout their entire career.

The truth about what goes on inside a criminal administration, generally doesn't come from boy scouts and saints. It comes from enablers from within the adminstration. John Dean wasn't a boy scout, before he suddenly came out and told the truth about Nixon.

 

[leaningright]

Yet this slime ball went along for the ride and he's going to make millions off of it.

I'll tell you what whoever has the cajones to really push for an impeachment, will probably have my vote throughout their entire career.

But to push for impeachment right now would be political suicide, IMO. A large percentage of the less informed public will just see it as retaliation for what was done in the Clinton years and nothing more. I think it would cost the party dearly in any upcoming elections, which they should win easily by the way.

 

[uscitizen]

yeah the primary thing Leaning is to get out of the mess in Iraq.
Yes "we" started it but "we" can't fix it ......

 

[LadyT]

I think letting them go unchecked creates a damaging prescedent (sp?). I think its imperative to make these a-holes pay for what they've done.

But that's just me.

 

[Cypress]

But to push for impeachment right now would be political suicide, IMO. A large percentage of the less informed public will just see it as retaliation for what was done in the Clinton years and nothing more. I think it would cost the party dearly in any upcoming elections, which they should win easily by the way.

I understand you think impeachment is politically unattractive.

Do you think the strong evidence of lying us into war merits impeachment simply on a moral and legal level?

 

[uscitizen]

I think letting them go unchecked creates a damaging prescedent (sp?). I think its imperative to make these a-holes pay for what they've done.

But that's just me.

yeah, but lets plug the hole in the dam before worrying about punishing the ones that dug the hole is all I mean.
The investigations into lots of corrupt areas of the Bush administration are getting entertaining, and will grow more in the near future.
Bush will probably go down in history, but not at all like he planned.

 

[leaningright]

I understand you think impeachment is politically unattractive.

Do you think the strong evidence of lying us into war merits impeachment simply on a moral and legal level?

Short answer, yes. Look, I am seriously close to risking some of the freedoms I enjoy and voting against my moral stances just to vote these sorry suckers out of there. If I am going to do that I want the ones that I vote for to have the best chance at winning. I'm just afraid this wouldn't accomplish what many want it to accomplish (President Pelosi for many it seems) and will end with the democrats looking like the republicans of the 90's.