Gonzo
- Thread starter Beefy
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FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
An extremely authoritarian government can protect our liberties better than a free one, beefy. Doesn't that make sense to you?
Beefy
Worst gambler ever
Thanks Gonzo.
gonzojournals
Better than You
In a Brave New World the individual's day is planned for him, so no. I see no problem in having an authoritarian government that preserves civil liberties.
Beefy
Worst gambler ever
But your dopey plan is a pipe dream against human nature as much as communism. You would HAVE to program people like slaves in order for your dopey idea to work, which would mean pulling out your guns and putting it in people's faces.
Fascism is for guys like Watermark, circa 2003. Prepubescent pimplenecked idealists who have no concept of the real world.
theMAJORITY
MAJORITYrules-sorry
theMAJORITY
MAJORITYrules-sorry
Is that possible? We can't even do it with a goverment of the people.
theMAJORITY
MAJORITYrules-sorry
Ohh--I think they know much of the world more than their own soil. That is were they get their ideas. They surely did not get them here--unless it was a commie college.
Ya want one of my T-shirts Beefy? I am having one made that says
Liberial universities = commie college
I WANT MY ANERICAN DREAM BACK!!
pretty catchy huh?
gonzojournals
Better than You
No, you don't. People managed to survive for thousands of years without democracy, and now with the reforms to society that democracy has brought they can return to a strong government.
As slaves and masters, which is to what you'd return them.
gonzojournals
Better than You
Unless you view, as I do, Democracy as a necessary tool in the evolution of humanity. However, as all tools do, it has served its purpose and it is now time to continue on to a new stage in Society.
WhiteAsBirdShit
Ain't I a cutie? HEHE
Gonz is ghey.
Your views are outside of reality and you would return to the old stage of slave and master.
gonzojournals
Better than You
It is through suffrage that liberty has been achieved, not necessarily through "weak government". Suffrage, however, has outlived its purpose. Besides, the populace isn't interested in voting. The voting turn-out year after year is pathetic. What people care about is being left alone, and the government can do whatever it wants as long as it doesn't infringe on their rights.
gonzojournals
Better than You
Not really. All that is necessary is to organise the new government so that it would be difficult for a single individual to take advantage.
Nope, it was the restraint of government that brought liberty and it is the breaking of those restraints that serve as liberty's greatest threat. Suffrage spread liberty to all.
Fascist policies infringe on individual rights, retard. Somebody taking one's property for the glory of the nation is an infringment of rights.
WhiteAsBirdShit
Ain't I a cutie? HEHE
yep thats always worked the thousands of times its been tried in the past.
gonzojournals
Better than You
The restraint of government was achieved through suffrage, and that is plain to see.
However, my vision assumes that there is a government so strong that your liberties are protected because the government doesn't feel threatened by you. Freedom of speech? No problem, the government isn't threatened by you.
Freedom of assembly? Same deal.
Gay marriage? Fine with them.
Legalisation of pot? Yup.
Etc. etc.
No one is going to take anyone's property for the glory of the nation. Just offer incentives for the proper use of that property (tax cuts and the like).
Besides, I am a supporter of National Collaborativism, not pure Fascism. Hence Mussolini with the drawn-on smiley face.