APP - Great article on Ukraine hoax

So then asking a nation to publicize dirt on your American presidential opponent in return for military equipment doesn't constitute a bribe. How interesting is that. Seems apologists for Trump will make up anything at all to condone the actions of a member of their tribe. Thankfully honest, thoughtful people see through this nonsense. Check out a real law site and not an apologist below.

"The Bad Arguments That Trump Didn’t Commit Bribery"

https://www.lawfareblog.com/bad-arguments-trump-didnt-commit-bribery
 
midcan5 said:
So then asking a nation to publicize dirt on your American presidential opponent in return for military equipment doesn't constitute a bribe. How interesting is that. Seems apologists for Trump will make up anything at all to condone the actions of a member of their tribe. Thankfully honest, thoughtful people see through this nonsense. Check out a real law site and not an apologist below.

"The Bad Arguments That Trump Didn’t Commit Bribery"

https://www.lawfareblog.com/bad-arguments-trump-didnt-commit-bribery
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They obviously don't really believe these silly arguments. If Obama or Hillary did something like this, they'd be screaming for the death penalty.
 
Trump asks a davor for the new leader who ran on an anti corruption platform to investigate corruption involving the US. Nothingburger with extra nothing.
 
midcan5 said:
So then asking a nation to publicize dirt on your American presidential opponent in return for military equipment doesn't constitute a bribe. How interesting is that. Seems apologists for Trump will make up anything at all to condone the actions of a member of their tribe. Thankfully honest, thoughtful people see through this nonsense. Check out a real law site and not an apologist below.

"The Bad Arguments That Trump Didn’t Commit Bribery"

https://www.lawfareblog.com/bad-arguments-trump-didnt-commit-bribery
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There is nothing illegal about what President Trump did. He asked Ukraine to root out corruption in exchange for foreign aid. Foreign aid should be conditional. That Biden is corrupt and has dirt on him is purely coincidental. That he is running for President shouldn't protect him from being investigated which is what you leftists seem to be saying. How interesting is THAT?
 
The thing that should amaze any thoughtful person is there is nothing to the Ukraine interfered in our election fable. Nothing, nada, and yet republicans and Trumpettes believe and follow. When republicans today mention the imaginary deep state you must wonder if their mental health is so groupthink managed that they'd believe anything. Trump says lies and distortions daily and the red hats follow and cheer. What power resentment and hate have over people when absurdity becomes the normal.
 
anatta said:
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Timeline of Ukrainian-Democrat Meddling in 2016 Presidential Election
https://www.theepochtimes.com/timel...ng-in-2016-presidential-election_3156376.html

Ukraine’s leaders campaign against ‘pro-Putin’ Trump
https://www.ft.com/content/c98078d0-6ae7-11e6-a0b1-d87a9fea034f

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
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These are all non-sequiturs. They in no way disprove that Trump attempted bribery of the Ukrainian president.
 
StoneByStone said:
These are all non-sequiturs. They in no way disprove that Trump attempted bribery of the Ukrainian president.
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When someone is a member of your tribe he can do no wrong. See quote down. While I am not a fan of Bolton he speaks his mind and he tells it like he sees it.

"We now know that John Bolton would testify that Trump told him directly that he was soliciting a bribe from Ukraine."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...y-surge-after-new-revelations-about-ukrainian


"Humans universally make Us/Them dichotomies along lines of race, ethnicity, gender, language group, religion, age, socioeconomic status, and so on. And it’s not a pretty picture. We do so with remarkable speed and neurobiological efficiency; have complex taxonomies and classifications of ways in which we denigrate Thems; do so with a versatility that ranges from the minutest of microaggression to bloodbaths of savagery; and regularly decide what is inferior about Them based on pure emotion, followed by primitive rationalizations that we mistake for rationality. Pretty depressing." Robert M. Sapolsky http://nautil.us/issue/49/the-absurd/why-your-brain-hates-other-people
 
midcan5 said:
When someone is a member of your tribe he can do no wrong. See quote down. While I am not a fan of Bolton he speaks his mind and he tells it like he sees it.

"We now know that John Bolton would testify that Trump told him directly that he was soliciting a bribe from Ukraine."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...y-surge-after-new-revelations-about-ukrainian


"Humans universally make Us/Them dichotomies along lines of race, ethnicity, gender, language group, religion, age, socioeconomic status, and so on. And it’s not a pretty picture. We do so with remarkable speed and neurobiological efficiency; have complex taxonomies and classifications of ways in which we denigrate Thems; do so with a versatility that ranges from the minutest of microaggression to bloodbaths of savagery; and regularly decide what is inferior about Them based on pure emotion, followed by primitive rationalizations that we mistake for rationality. Pretty depressing." Robert M. Sapolsky http://nautil.us/issue/49/the-absurd/why-your-brain-hates-other-people
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And yet Republicans weren't this crazy when Bush was in office. They admitted when he was doing something wrong. Same goes for Democrats and Obama.
 
StoneByStone said:
They obviously don't really believe these silly arguments. If Obama or Hillary did something like this, they'd be screaming for the death penalty.
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Hillary did

Paid a law firm who paid a company who paid a foreign national to dig up dirt from Russia on Donald Trump

Oh yeah to you it is just oppo research
 
midcan5 said:
So then asking a nation to publicize dirt on your American presidential opponent in return for military equipment doesn't constitute a bribe. How interesting is that. Seems apologists for Trump will make up anything at all to condone the actions of a member of their tribe. Thankfully honest, thoughtful people see through this nonsense. Check out a real law site and not an apologist below.

"The Bad Arguments That Trump Didn’t Commit Bribery"

https://www.lawfareblog.com/bad-arguments-trump-didnt-commit-bribery
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Or in real terms, outting corruption involving the sitting vice president at the time...
 
Teflon Don said:
It is exactly what happened and you had no problem with Hillary doing it. So ask yourself the same question.
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Because Hillary didn't do it. But alright, let's pretend she did the exact same thing. Is it ok that Hillary did it, since it's ok that Trump did it?
 
StoneByStone said:
Because Hillary didn't do it. But alright, let's pretend she did the exact same thing. Is it ok that Hillary did it, since it's ok that Trump did it?
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So you are saying Hillary didn’t do the following?

Hire Perkins Coie?
Who in turn hired Fusion GPS?
Who in turn hired Christopher Steele a foreign national?
Who in turn used contacts to dig up dirt on Trump in Russia?

You are saying none of that happened in 2016? That’s what you are saying?
 
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