hard evidence, good guy with a gun is real

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-us-2016-2017.pdf/view

“The FBI has designated 50 shootings in 2016 and 2017 as active shooter incidents,” the report summarizes. “Twenty incidents occurred in 2016, while 30 incidents occurred in 2017.

“The FBI defines an active shooter as one or more individuals actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area,” the report continues. “Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of one or more firearms. The active aspect of the definition inherently implies that both law enforcement personnel and citizens have the potential to affect the outcome of the event based upon their responses to the situation. “

And how have citizens “affected the outcome”?

“Eight shooters were stopped by citizens,” the report documents, up from six credited in a 2014/2015 report:

“In four incidents, citizens possessing valid firearms permits successfully stopped the shooter. In two incidents, citizens exchanged gunfire with the shooter. In two incidents, the citizens held the shooter at gunpoint until law enforcement arrived. In one incident, a citizen possessing a valid firearms permit exchanged gunfire with the shooter, causing the shooter to flee to another scene and continue shooting. In one incident, a citizen possessing a valid firearms permit was wounded before he could fire at the shooter.”
 
Good guys don't have guns, let's face it. Guns are for killing.

No, pussies like are afraid of guns so you don't think anyone should own them.

Why don't we ban cars. While they weren't designed for killing as many die each year in them as with guns. Seems they're more dangerous.
 
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-us-2016-2017.pdf/view

“The FBI has designated 50 shootings in 2016 and 2017 as active shooter incidents,” the report summarizes. “Twenty incidents occurred in 2016, while 30 incidents occurred in 2017.

“The FBI defines an active shooter as one or more individuals actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area,” the report continues. “Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of one or more firearms. The active aspect of the definition inherently implies that both law enforcement personnel and citizens have the potential to affect the outcome of the event based upon their responses to the situation. “

And how have citizens “affected the outcome”?

“Eight shooters were stopped by citizens,” the report documents, up from six credited in a 2014/2015 report:

“In four incidents, citizens possessing valid firearms permits successfully stopped the shooter. In two incidents, citizens exchanged gunfire with the shooter. In two incidents, the citizens held the shooter at gunpoint until law enforcement arrived. In one incident, a citizen possessing a valid firearms permit exchanged gunfire with the shooter, causing the shooter to flee to another scene and continue shooting. In one incident, a citizen possessing a valid firearms permit was wounded before he could fire at the shooter.”

the cops are the good guys with guns

and BTW lots of people have stopped a bad guy with a gun without a gun


remember when gabby Giffords got shot

the good guy that day was a 50 something year old lady who tackled the gunman

that young man recently who jumped the fucker pretty much on the spot
 
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Sorry, CFM, but a chap has his standards! :)
 
the cops are the good guys with guns

yes, we know you love cops that snipe mothers holding infants standing behind doors. was the cop in florida that shot a mental patients therapist a good guy? what about the cop that shot philando castille

what about all these cops? are they good guys with guns?

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article90905442.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Philando_Castile

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ps-front-door-family-lawyer-article-1.1619842

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/17/aiyana-stanley-jones-joseph-weekley-trial_n_5824684.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/05/01/in-virginia-death-penalty-for-gambling.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-officer-shot-unarmed-black-man-20170402-story.html

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2...nd-kill-unarmed-man-in-front-of-his-children/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/outrage...-paradise-california-officer-patrick-feaster/

http://reason.com/blog/2017/05/01/texas-cop-kills-teen-in-car-police-false

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/05/us/texas-cop-arrest-warrant/index.html

http://www.theroot.com/ky-police-release-video-of-cop-shooting-unarmed-black-1792944733

http://www.anonews.co/cam-vids-police/

https://realfarmacy.com/cops-shoot-innocent-man-in-bed/

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/breaking-video-police-kill-pastor/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...ice_admitted_they_killed_an_innocent_man.html

http://time.com/4404987/police-violence/
 
so it's not enough for you now?

“In four incidents, citizens possessing valid firearms permits successfully stopped the shooter"

So in four out of fifty incidents, fifty incidents which left 221 killed and 722 wounded, a guy with a gun stopped a shooting, four out of fifty, considering a broken clock is right twice a day, I don't see that as evidence

That means forty six times it didn't work, I think probabilities dictate it would be wiser to work to prevent those fifty shooters from ever having a gun

Fact remains, the US has more guns than any other developed nation in the world, nearly one for every citizen, so logic would dictate if more guns make us safer we would be the safest nation in the world, which statistically we aren't even close
 
No, pussies like are afraid of guns so you don't think anyone should own them.

Why don't we ban cars. While they weren't designed for killing as many die each year in them as with guns. Seems they're more dangerous.

Given the number of cars in the US, and the amount of usage each car receives in a a day, statistically they should add up to more deaths than guns, but barely, and I don't think a gun owner fires his weapon as many times in one day as the car owner drives his vehicle

Inane comparison
 
"let's face it. Guns are for killing." i #2
And that is why we require our police and our military troops to carry them.
"Good guys don't have guns" i #2
So in your opinion police & United States military are not good guys?

It exposes your post as reduced to ill-considered opinion.
 
Given the number of cars in the US, and the amount of usage each car receives in a a day, statistically they should add up to more deaths than guns, but barely, and I don't think a gun owner fires his weapon as many times in one day as the car owner drives his vehicle

Inane comparison

You could have stopped at "I don't think" and been absolutely correct.

Just another excuse from a gun hater that doesn't have the guts to try and take what he says people shouldn't own.
 
And that is why we require our police and our military troops to carry them.

So in your opinion police & United States military are not good guys?

It exposes your post as reduced to ill-considered opinion.

Cops are never bad?
LMFAO
 
Given the number of cars in the US, and the amount of usage each car receives in a a day, statistically they should add up to more deaths than guns, but barely, and I don't think a gun owner fires his weapon as many times in one day as the car owner drives his vehicle

Inane comparison

CFM is on my ignore, so I don’t see the idiot’s posts until someone responds.

No surprise that a dumbfuck shitstain like him would bring up the absurd and failed car/gun comparison.
 
"Cops are never bad?
LMFAO" R #15
Corruption pervades.

But a functional government requires, in GW's own words:

"A government exists when it has a reasonable monopoly on the legitimate use of violence." George Will

That's why COPs carry guns.

Do you really mean to suggest that because some COPs fail to perform optimally sometimes, that government should forfeit the authority to preserve civilization?
 
And that is why we require our police and our military troops to carry them.

So in your opinion police & United States military are not good guys?

It exposes your post as reduced to ill-considered opinion.

Sounds like a suicidal country you live in. We prefer the police not to murder innocent passers-by for their skin colour but to bring people to court, so that they can be judged by their peers. As to whether your police are 'good guys', you presumably believe they ought to model themselves on the KKK!
 
“In four incidents, citizens possessing valid firearms permits successfully stopped the shooter"

So in four out of fifty incidents, fifty incidents which left 221 killed and 722 wounded, a guy with a gun stopped a shooting, four out of fifty, considering a broken clock is right twice a day, I don't see that as evidence
so instead of 221 killed and 722 wounded, you'd be happy seeing more just so long as you could get more gun control......and you consider US the problem?

That means forty six times it didn't work, I think probabilities dictate it would be wiser to work to prevent those fifty shooters from ever having a gun
that's intellectually dishonest. in those other 46 shootings, was there anyone else with a gun? i think probabilities dictate that there wasn't because your current gun control MOs make it either difficult to carry or too costly were there a mistake to be made.

Fact remains, the US has more guns than any other developed nation in the world, nearly one for every citizen, so logic would dictate if more guns make us safer we would be the safest nation in the world, which statistically we aren't even close
guns only make people safer if they carry them, but by all means if you think people carrying guns in public is a public safety issue, you should be out there trying to disarm all the cops and other armed government agents. just sayin,
 
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