Harris’s tax plans would hobble the economy

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Harris’s tax plans would hobble the economy

On corporate tax rates, former President Donald Trump’s position is demonstrably superior to Vice President Kamala Harris’s demagoguery.

As part of her tiresome schtick about how she is going to pay for all her promises by raising taxes on billionaires and corporations, literally an arithmetical impossibility by any reckoning, the Democrat Harris keeps bashing the Republican Trump for proposing “tax cuts for big corporations.” It is one of her most frequent attack lines.

Well, she’s darn right that Trump is doing that. It’s a tremendously wise thing for him to propose.

The corporate income tax is one of the flat-out dumbest taxes imaginable. The more a corporation is taxed, the more it either passes the taxes on to consumers in the form of higher prices or reduces hiring or perhaps gives worse dividends to its stockholders. Either way, it is a major drain on the economy.

Indeed, the Congressional Budget Office estimated that “domestic labor bears slightly more than 70% of the burden of the corporate income tax.” So much for Harris being on the side of laborers.

A high corporate income tax also leads to businesses large and small spending much more time on tax avoidance strategies than on growth-oriented endeavors, and it takes more time from IRS workers monitoring corporate compliance when they could be reassigned to the notoriously weak IRS help desk. It also benefits large businesses that can afford pricey accountants over small businesses that can’t.

Almost invariably, nations that cut their corporate income tax rates see almost immediate spurts, some of them vast, in economic growth and overall economic health. Consider the famous “Celtic Tiger” economic phenomenon in Ireland, during which that nation in a few short years rose from being one of Europe’s poorest to one of its richest. After it began a phased-in reduction of its corporate tax rate from 40% to 12.5% in 1996, Ireland’s growth rate more than doubled U.S. growth, and its per capita income surpassed ours. Moreover, tax revenue actually rose each year until the start of the worldwide recession, and average salaries increased each year, even during the 2008-10 recession.

Back in the United States, Republicans took notice. While most tax cuts only partially “pay for themselves” by generating economic growth that makes up for part of the “loss” to the Treasury from lower rates, corporate taxes behave differently. When part of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that Trump signed in 2017 cut the top corporate rate from 39% to 21%, critics said the lower rate would explode the deficit without benefit to the broader economy. Just the opposite occurred.


 
Harris, though, proposes to undo all those benefits. She proposes hiking the corporate income tax rate from 21% to 28%, which would be significantly above, and uncompetitive with, the world’s average rate of 23.45%. Yet history (discussed above) shows that the hikes would not be likely to raise revenue to pay for Harris’s other big-government boondoggles, but they would instead retard growth and thus bring in no new revenue. Or, worse, they would actually drive revenue down if the higher taxes cause a recession.

Trump, on the other hand, wants to reduce these rates still further, down to 15%. Even then, they would be higher than Ireland’s. Yet by keeping prices lower while boosting profits, and in turn boosting the financial health of all the ordinary retiree pension funds that have holdings in U.S. corporations, the lower rates could make the domestic economy roar like a lion. And again, the federal government’s balance sheet probably wouldn’t suffer a penny.

It is the proverbial “little guy,” meaning family consumers and laborers, who have the most to gain from lower corporate income taxes. Trump is right, and Harris is wrong. Her policies would make average people suffer.
 
The more a corporation is taxed, the more it either passes the taxes on to consumers in the form of higher prices or reduces hiring or perhaps gives worse dividends to its stockholders.
Corporate taxes are only on profits, so there would be no obvious reason to pass them on to consumers. It does not raise costs. It reduces profits. Do you see the difference? So if the inputs to a widget cost $90, and the price it is sold for is $100, then there is a $10 profit, and $2 might got to taxes. There is still a $8 after tax profit. There is no need to raise the price anything, and in fact, the market would not allow that.

Now trump's plan of a massive tax on inputs would require higher prices. If the inputs to a widget used to cost $90, but trump's massive tax increases them to $150, then either the company has to figure out a way to increase the price to $150+, or stop making widgets.

You have a bit of an argument with dividends, but not much of one.

The reduced hiring argument is nowhere. Remember, wages are not taxed as corporate profits, because they are not profits. This means the opportunity costs of hiring more people is a bit lower than without corporate taxes. It increases hiring.
 
Corporate taxes are only on profits, so there would be no obvious reason to pass them on to consumers. It does not raise costs. It reduces profits. Do you see the difference? So if the inputs to a widget cost $90, and the price it is sold for is $100, then there is a $10 profit, and $2 might got to taxes. There is still a $8 after tax profit. There is no need to raise the price anything, and in fact, the market would not allow that.

Now trump's plan of a massive tax on inputs would require higher prices. If the inputs to a widget used to cost $90, but trump's massive tax increases them to $150, then either the company has to figure out a way to increase the price to $150+, or stop making widgets.

You have a bit of an argument with dividends, but not much of one.

The reduced hiring argument is nowhere. Remember, wages are not taxed as corporate profits, because they are not profits. This means the opportunity costs of hiring more people is a bit lower than without corporate taxes. It increases hiring.
Good luck on getting a rebuttal from butt head.
 
I'm hopeful she's planning to go back to Cali...
She's got no plans for us...talk about someone who doesn't deserve to sit behind the Seal of the Presidency...
We have talked about this, she will be President in Name Only, she is a cog in the Revolution.

The Wall Street Mafia/CIA does not want a competent President, they want a President who follows instructions and who knows that they are too dumb to resist the orders. They also want her be divisive....divide and conquer is their game....and they want us all fighting and diverted as they loot the country.
 
I'm hopeful she's planning to go back to Cali...
She's got no plans for us...talk about someone who doesn't deserve to sit behind the Seal of the Presidency...
Harris plans on raising corporate taxes .

Raising corporate taxes only raises operating costs for corporation and those costs are inevitably passed on to the consumer and makes the corporations less competitive on the world market. I'd like to see corporate taxes 15% or less which would make American made products less expensive on the world market. It would make the cost of manufacturing products in the US which would draw manufactures back to the US. That would help increase American jobs which would increase the number of people paying income taxes.
 
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Harris plans on raising corporate taxes .

Raising corporate taxes only raises operating costs for corporation and those costs are inevitably passed on to the consumer and makes the corporations less competitive on the world market. I'd like to see corporate taxes 15% or less which would make American made products less expensive on the world market. It would make the cost of manufacturing products in the US which would draw manufactures back to the US. That would help increase American jobs which would increase the number of people paying income taxes.
And yet you MAGAS don't say a word about Trump wanting to put tariffs on everything we import.
Some as high as 100%.
China IS not going to pay these all they are going to do is raise the price of the goods they do sell and the consumer will end up paying them.
It has happened many times before.
YES it will help US companies they will be able to raise their prices to just under what the importers are charging and they will sell more and make even more profit.
Trumps tariffs will increase inflation that we just got under control.
 
Harris plans on raising corporate taxes .

Raising corporate taxes only raises operating costs for corporation and those costs are inevitably passed on to the consumer and makes the corporations less competitive on the world market. I'd like to see corporate taxes 15% or less which would make American made products less expensive on the world market. It would make the cost of manufacturing products in the US which would draw manufactures back to the US. That would help increase American jobs which would increase the number of people paying income taxes.

Sometimes it helps to read the posts above you. As Walt points out, taxes are not an operating cost.
 
Raising corporate taxes only raises operating costs for corporation
Completely wrong. Corporate taxes are on profits, not on costs. It does nothing to operating costs. trump tax would put operating costs through the roof, but Harris' tax would not.

The rest of your post falls apart, because it is all dependent on the idea that corporate taxes are on operating costs.
 
Corporate taxes are only on profits, so there would be no obvious reason to pass them on to consumers. It does not raise costs. It reduces profits. Do you see the difference? So if the inputs to a widget cost $90, and the price it is sold for is $100, then there is a $10 profit, and $2 might got to taxes. There is still a $8 after tax profit. There is no need to raise the price anything, and in fact, the market would not allow that.

That is the dumbest, most asinine and uneducated statement I have ever seen. More evidence that you have ZERO education in business and how the real-world works.

Profits are calculated AFTER all the costs associated with the goods or services companies provide. If their costs go up, so do their prices to maintain the profit level they require or their shareholder's demand.

So, when a brainless, clueless dunce like Kamala says she's going to raise their taxes, thank her for costing YOU, the consumer more.

Now trump's plan of a massive tax on inputs would require higher prices. If the inputs to a widget used to cost $90, but trump's massive tax increases them to $150, then either the company has to figure out a way to increase the price to $150+, or stop making widgets.

Trump has not proposed any tax on inputs you brainless dumbass. :palm:

You have a bit of an argument with dividends, but not much of one.

The reduced hiring argument is nowhere. Remember, wages are not taxed as corporate profits, because they are not profits. This means the opportunity costs of hiring more people is a bit lower than without corporate taxes. It increases hiring.

No one claimed "wages" are being taxed dumbass. :palm:

This is why I don't like engaging uneducated dumbasses. In order to have a coherent debate, we have to first educate you dullards.
 
Harris plans on raising corporate taxes .

Raising corporate taxes only raises operating costs for corporation and those costs are inevitably passed on to the consumer and makes the corporations less competitive on the world market. I'd like to see corporate taxes 15% or less which would make American made products less expensive on the world market. It would make the cost of manufacturing products in the US which would draw manufactures back to the US. That would help increase American jobs which would increase the number of people paying income taxes.
Correct. Corporations do not pay taxes. They COLLECT them. ;)
 
And yet you MAGAS don't say a word about Trump wanting to put tariffs on everything we import.
Some as high as 100%.

Tariffs would not be on everything we import. Only coming from those countries who place massive tariffs on ourexports.

If you had a brain, you could comprehend the OBVIOUS. It is a way to force out trading partners to trade FAIRLY and even out the playing field for our goods.

If course, mental midgets on the left who think Government dependency is awesome and could care less about the loss of manufacturing in our country while thinking that cheap goods imported from Asia that places tariffs on our goods is a great idea.

That's why we call people like you stupid.

China IS not going to pay these all they are going to do is raise the price of the goods they do sell and the consumer will end up paying them.
It has happened many times before.

Dumbass: if they raise their prices their goods wouldn't sell here. They would be forced to remove their tariffs on our goods or significantly decrease their prices to remain competitive.

YES it will help US companies they will be able to raise their prices to just under what the importers are charging and they will sell more and make even more profit.
Trumps tariffs will increase inflation that we just got under control.

Inflation isn't under control. US companies wouldn't need to raise prices on anything to sell their goods here. Moron. :palm:
 
Corporate taxes are only on profits, so there would be no obvious reason to pass them on to consumers. It does not raise costs. It reduces profits. Do you see the difference? So if the inputs to a widget cost $90, and the price it is sold for is $100, then there is a $10 profit, and $2 might got to taxes. There is still a $8 after tax profit. There is no need to raise the price anything, and in fact, the market would not allow that.

Now trump's plan of a massive tax on inputs would require higher prices. If the inputs to a widget used to cost $90, but trump's massive tax increases them to $150, then either the company has to figure out a way to increase the price to $150+, or stop making widgets.

You have a bit of an argument with dividends, but not much of one.

The reduced hiring argument is nowhere. Remember, wages are not taxed as corporate profits, because they are not profits. This means the opportunity costs of hiring more people is a bit lower than without corporate taxes. It increases hiring.
you're idiotic about how corporations do pricing.

all costs including shipping and excise or tariffs are factored into the pricing of every piece. landed cost.

tariffs definitely will go into the price of goods.

there argument is that IT"S WORTH IT.
 
Sometimes it helps to read the posts above you. As Walt points out, taxes are not an operating cost.
Taxes are a cost of doing business dumbass. Let me give you a very simple econ 101 explanation how companies work.

They calculate all the costs to provide a good or service to the buying public including taxes on their revenue. Then they determine the profit they require to remain an ongoing concern.

Corporations do not PAY taxes. They actually COLLECT them. When you raise their taxes, thus INCREASING their cost of doing business, they pass those costs onto the consumers of their goods and services.
 
Completely wrong. Corporate taxes are on profits, not on costs. It does nothing to operating costs. trump tax would put operating costs through the roof, but Harris' tax would not.

The rest of your post falls apart, because it is all dependent on the idea that corporate taxes are on operating costs.
No matter how many times you post this uneducated stupid nonsense, it's still uneducated stupid nonsense. :palm:
 
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