Here’s How Malls Across the Country Are Restricting Teen Visitors

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From Co-Star today. Anyone here of Gen X age likely went to the mall as a teen. Total '80's thing to do. Of course this was all pre social media.





Here’s How Malls Across the Country Are Restricting Teen Visitors

More Shopping Centers Institute Policies, Such as Requiring Chaperones, To Curtail Unruly Behavior


It used to be teens only needed chaperones at events like proms or for overnight field trips. But soon they will need one to get into a popular New Jersey mall on weekends.

Garden State Plaza in Paramus, New Jersey, is joining other large brick-and-mortar retail centers across the nation in setting new restrictions on teens' access to their premises. In this latest example, visitors under the age of 18 must be accompanied by a parent or supervising adult 21 or older on Friday and Saturday after 5 p.m. at Garden State Plaza, which is the second-largest mall in New Jersey. The mall is closed on Sundays because of local blue laws.

Garden State Plaza said its new policy, posted on the mall's website, was prompted by "an increase in disruptive behavior ... by a small minority of younger visitors."The policy, which takes effect on April 28, is broader and more far-reaching than policies at other malls.

"I have read of numerous other malls taking a similar route to try and combat issues resulting from unsupervised groups of young teens," Brandon Svec, national director of U.S. retail analytics for CoStar Group, said in an email.

The stiffer restrictions show how more malls are implementing so-called "parental guidance" or "youth supervision" policies to prevent unruly behavior by gatherings of youths, who in some cases are posting videos of brawls and other dust-ups at malls on TikTok and other social media. It's part of a trend of malls stepping up security after increasing episodes of violence and crime, including shoplifting, at retail properties. The nation's biggest mall, Mall of Americain Bloomington, Minnesota, briefly tested installing metal detectors at its entrances last year. It decided not to permanently install them, but earlier this month the mall conducted a media tour to show how it was stepping up its security efforts after several shootings at the shopping mecca.

It's unclear what effect, if any, the new policy at the Garden State Plaza will have on the sales at the mall, which has been ranked as one of the nation's biggest revenue-generating retail centers. Malls are a fixture in the North Jersey suburbs, where they often serve as popular destinations for youths to congregate and socialize. And there are concerns the new chaperone rule could turn off potential future shoppers to Garden State Plaza or other malls.

Driving Away Business?

"I get it, there are a lot of TikTok pranks filmed at malls and they get disruptive," Nicole Larson, manager of national retail research for Collier's, said in an email. "But teens usually have their learners permit around 15 to 16, and to me this will leave a sour taste in their minds and will likely cause them to take their future dollars elsewhere."

On the other hand, the new policy could make shoppers feel safer about coming to the Paramus mall, according to Svec.

"Malls that feel it necessary to enact these types of policies are doing so in reaction to a problem that is likely already impacting perception (and by extension sales)," Svec said. "Thus, if the policy is successful in its intended consequence, it should eventually have a positive impact on sales. It is hard to see it having a significantly negative impact on sales resulting from reduced foot traffic on weekend nights by individuals under 17, given this is not typically a cohort that drives significant spending."

U.S. malls several years ago began instituting policies mandating that teen visitors be accompanied by adults during certain times. ICSC, the major trade group for retail real estate owners, doesn't track exactly how many malls have placed restrictions on teen access, according to a spokeswoman for the organization. While teen restrictions at malls have been in place for years now, they are becoming more common though they sometimes aren't enforced.

"Often called 'parental escort policies,' this type of policy is not new to the mall industry," Amanda Lai, a director at the retail consultant McMillan Doolittle, said in an email. "My hometown mall, Mall of America in Minnesota, was among the first to implement this rule in the 90s. Most commonly, this policy applies only on weekends, but we've observed the policy expand to holidays such as Black Friday and even weekdays in some cases, to mitigate unsupervised teenage crowds."

Mall of America's sister property, American Dream in East Rutherford, New Jersey, also requires adult supervision for teens during certain times. Those two malls are owned by Canadian developer Triple Five. For Mall of America, youths under 16 must be accompanied by an adult 21 years or older from 3 p.m. to close daily. American Dream, the only mall in New Jersey bigger than Garden State Plaza, mandates that youths under the age of 16 must be accompanied by an adult 21 years or older from 4 p.m. until close.

Also in New Jersey, the Deptford Mall has a parental guidance policy that requires those under the age of 18 years to be accompanied by a parent or supervising adult age 25 or older on Friday through Sunday night after 5 p.m. That mall is owned by Macerich.

Atlanta Mall’s Policy

Beyond the East Coast, the Mall St. Matthews in Louisville, Kentucky, mandated adult chaperones for teens in 2016, as did the Jefferson Mall, also in Louisville, in 2019. In September 2021, the Lenox Square mall in the Buckhead area mandated that all visitors under 18 had to be accompanied by a parent or adult — someone 21 or older — after 3 p.m. That mall is owned by Simon Property Group and was the site of several shootings.

“We are committed to providing a safe, welcoming and fun environment for our guests to enjoy while shopping, dining or attending an event at Westfield Garden State Plaza,” Wesley Rebisz, the mall's senior general manager, said in a statement. “After careful consideration, we have decided to implement a parental guidance policy on Friday and Saturday evenings to ensure everyone feels comfortable in our shopping center and can enjoy their experience. We want to emphasize that all guests are welcome."

The mall's owner, French retail giant Unibail-Rodamco-Westfield, didn't respond to a phone call and email from CoStar News seeking comment.

Garden State Plaza has been the scene of several disruptions. In one instance last month, a fight between two women was recorded on video and posted on social media, bringing police to the retail center. And several brawls have taken place in the mall's food court.

The mall's parental guidance includes a code of conduct that bans offensive and disruptive behavior "likely to provoke a disturbance or infringe on the rights or peace of other patrons in the center, including gestures; obscenities; slurs based on race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or ethnicity; sexually explicit language/conduct; excessive noise or music."

The code says that patrons must wear shorts and shoes, and can't wear clothing "that obscures, disguises, or conceals the face unless worn for medical or religious reasons."

Police, Security Guards Enlisted To Enforce Policies

To enforce the requirement for a chaperone for teens, Garden State Plaza said it will have police officers and mall security guards at all its entrances to check IDs. One adult aged 21 or older can accompany up to four youths.

Teens covered by the new policy who are dropped off without an adult, won't be allowed into the mall and must contact their parent or guardian to either pick them up or accompany them during their visit. Special zones have been established for those waiting to be picked up.

"Wow, those are some tough restrictions," Colliers' Larson said.

Garden State Plaza said its parental guidance policy will be in effect for the common area of the mall and its so-called inline retailers, with restaurants and department stores setting their own rules. The policy is not in effect inside the AMC Garden State movie theaters at the mall.

Those young enough to fall under the new policy who entered the mall before 5 p.m. without an adult will be asked to contact their parent or guardian to either pick them up or accompany them to the mall, according to Garden State Plaza.

Chuck Lanyard, president of The Goldstein Group, a retail brokerage based in Paramus, told CoStar News he expects it will be difficult for the mall to enforce the new policy. Patrons will be stopped by security at the mall's entrances, and there may be backups at times to get in, he said. And all the attention now may make shoppers weary of visiting Garden State Plaza because they've been told there have been incidents there, according to Lanyard.

"I understand the concerns [of the mall], But I'd be really worried about the optics," he said.
 
I doubt they enforce these rules against employees, but technically they are driving away workers too.
 
Been common practice in many locations across the country. It have been an adolescent thing in the 80’s, least as far as the movies portrayed it, but I don’t think it was ever a something Mall retailers other than the film theaters were ever too fond of or dependent for business.

Depending on the individual rules I wouldn’t say it was a unacceptable, then again, I don’t frequent Malls
 
Been common practice in many locations across the country. It have been an adolescent thing in the 80’s, least as far as the movies portrayed it, but I don’t think it was ever a something Mall retailers other than the film theaters were ever too fond of or dependent for business.

Depending on the individual rules I wouldn’t say it was a unacceptable, then again, I don’t frequent Malls

There is a curfew in many of the shopping centers where we drive to shop. Mostly this is about all they have done here for now. I don't frequent malls but I did go into one a few weeks ago on a Saturday to buy a hat. I couldn't believe how hard it was to find a straw hat that I could wear fishing and golfing this summer. There were plenty of cowboy type hats but I don't wear those except to funerals. Anyway, I digress ... I finally found one (a Dockers brand) at Dillards in the mall for less than $40. While I was there things were very normal. People of all ages walking around. It was the first time I had been in a mall since 2020.
 
back in my days, the 80s, this wasn't necessary because if you became unruly, you didn't just get a ticket or walked out of the mall and trespassed. Your parents got a call and they had to come get you...........that always resulted in greater punishment.

these days, idiot parents consider corporal punishment as child abuse, so kids don't really suffer consequences except from nanny state government.
 
From Co-Star today. Anyone here of Gen X age likely went to the mall as a teen. Total '80's thing to do. Of course this was all pre social media.





Here’s How Malls Across the Country Are Restricting Teen Visitors

More Shopping Centers Institute Policies, Such as Requiring Chaperones, To Curtail Unruly Behavior


It used to be teens only needed chaperones at events like proms or for overnight field trips. But soon they will need one to get into a popular New Jersey mall on weekends.

Garden State Plaza in Paramus, New Jersey, is joining other large brick-and-mortar retail centers across the nation in setting new restrictions on teens' access to their premises. In this latest example, visitors under the age of 18 must be accompanied by a parent or supervising adult 21 or older on Friday and Saturday after 5 p.m. at Garden State Plaza, which is the second-largest mall in New Jersey. The mall is closed on Sundays because of local blue laws.

Garden State Plaza said its new policy, posted on the mall's website, was prompted by "an increase in disruptive behavior ... by a small minority of younger visitors."The policy, which takes effect on April 28, is broader and more far-reaching than policies at other malls.

"I have read of numerous other malls taking a similar route to try and combat issues resulting from unsupervised groups of young teens," Brandon Svec, national director of U.S. retail analytics for CoStar Group, said in an email.

The stiffer restrictions show how more malls are implementing so-called "parental guidance" or "youth supervision" policies to prevent unruly behavior by gatherings of youths, who in some cases are posting videos of brawls and other dust-ups at malls on TikTok and other social media. It's part of a trend of malls stepping up security after increasing episodes of violence and crime, including shoplifting, at retail properties. The nation's biggest mall, Mall of Americain Bloomington, Minnesota, briefly tested installing metal detectors at its entrances last year. It decided not to permanently install them, but earlier this month the mall conducted a media tour to show how it was stepping up its security efforts after several shootings at the shopping mecca.

It's unclear what effect, if any, the new policy at the Garden State Plaza will have on the sales at the mall, which has been ranked as one of the nation's biggest revenue-generating retail centers. Malls are a fixture in the North Jersey suburbs, where they often serve as popular destinations for youths to congregate and socialize. And there are concerns the new chaperone rule could turn off potential future shoppers to Garden State Plaza or other malls.

Driving Away Business?

"I get it, there are a lot of TikTok pranks filmed at malls and they get disruptive," Nicole Larson, manager of national retail research for Collier's, said in an email. "But teens usually have their learners permit around 15 to 16, and to me this will leave a sour taste in their minds and will likely cause them to take their future dollars elsewhere."

On the other hand, the new policy could make shoppers feel safer about coming to the Paramus mall, according to Svec.

"Malls that feel it necessary to enact these types of policies are doing so in reaction to a problem that is likely already impacting perception (and by extension sales)," Svec said. "Thus, if the policy is successful in its intended consequence, it should eventually have a positive impact on sales. It is hard to see it having a significantly negative impact on sales resulting from reduced foot traffic on weekend nights by individuals under 17, given this is not typically a cohort that drives significant spending."

U.S. malls several years ago began instituting policies mandating that teen visitors be accompanied by adults during certain times. ICSC, the major trade group for retail real estate owners, doesn't track exactly how many malls have placed restrictions on teen access, according to a spokeswoman for the organization. While teen restrictions at malls have been in place for years now, they are becoming more common though they sometimes aren't enforced.

"Often called 'parental escort policies,' this type of policy is not new to the mall industry," Amanda Lai, a director at the retail consultant McMillan Doolittle, said in an email. "My hometown mall, Mall of America in Minnesota, was among the first to implement this rule in the 90s. Most commonly, this policy applies only on weekends, but we've observed the policy expand to holidays such as Black Friday and even weekdays in some cases, to mitigate unsupervised teenage crowds."

Mall of America's sister property, American Dream in East Rutherford, New Jersey, also requires adult supervision for teens during certain times. Those two malls are owned by Canadian developer Triple Five. For Mall of America, youths under 16 must be accompanied by an adult 21 years or older from 3 p.m. to close daily. American Dream, the only mall in New Jersey bigger than Garden State Plaza, mandates that youths under the age of 16 must be accompanied by an adult 21 years or older from 4 p.m. until close.

Also in New Jersey, the Deptford Mall has a parental guidance policy that requires those under the age of 18 years to be accompanied by a parent or supervising adult age 25 or older on Friday through Sunday night after 5 p.m. That mall is owned by Macerich.

Atlanta Mall’s Policy

Beyond the East Coast, the Mall St. Matthews in Louisville, Kentucky, mandated adult chaperones for teens in 2016, as did the Jefferson Mall, also in Louisville, in 2019. In September 2021, the Lenox Square mall in the Buckhead area mandated that all visitors under 18 had to be accompanied by a parent or adult — someone 21 or older — after 3 p.m. That mall is owned by Simon Property Group and was the site of several shootings.

“We are committed to providing a safe, welcoming and fun environment for our guests to enjoy while shopping, dining or attending an event at Westfield Garden State Plaza,” Wesley Rebisz, the mall's senior general manager, said in a statement. “After careful consideration, we have decided to implement a parental guidance policy on Friday and Saturday evenings to ensure everyone feels comfortable in our shopping center and can enjoy their experience. We want to emphasize that all guests are welcome."

The mall's owner, French retail giant Unibail-Rodamco-Westfield, didn't respond to a phone call and email from CoStar News seeking comment.

Garden State Plaza has been the scene of several disruptions. In one instance last month, a fight between two women was recorded on video and posted on social media, bringing police to the retail center. And several brawls have taken place in the mall's food court.

The mall's parental guidance includes a code of conduct that bans offensive and disruptive behavior "likely to provoke a disturbance or infringe on the rights or peace of other patrons in the center, including gestures; obscenities; slurs based on race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or ethnicity; sexually explicit language/conduct; excessive noise or music."

The code says that patrons must wear shorts and shoes, and can't wear clothing "that obscures, disguises, or conceals the face unless worn for medical or religious reasons."

Police, Security Guards Enlisted To Enforce Policies

To enforce the requirement for a chaperone for teens, Garden State Plaza said it will have police officers and mall security guards at all its entrances to check IDs. One adult aged 21 or older can accompany up to four youths.

Teens covered by the new policy who are dropped off without an adult, won't be allowed into the mall and must contact their parent or guardian to either pick them up or accompany them during their visit. Special zones have been established for those waiting to be picked up.

"Wow, those are some tough restrictions," Colliers' Larson said.

Garden State Plaza said its parental guidance policy will be in effect for the common area of the mall and its so-called inline retailers, with restaurants and department stores setting their own rules. The policy is not in effect inside the AMC Garden State movie theaters at the mall.

Those young enough to fall under the new policy who entered the mall before 5 p.m. without an adult will be asked to contact their parent or guardian to either pick them up or accompany them to the mall, according to Garden State Plaza.

Chuck Lanyard, president of The Goldstein Group, a retail brokerage based in Paramus, told CoStar News he expects it will be difficult for the mall to enforce the new policy. Patrons will be stopped by security at the mall's entrances, and there may be backups at times to get in, he said. And all the attention now may make shoppers weary of visiting Garden State Plaza because they've been told there have been incidents there, according to Lanyard.

"I understand the concerns [of the mall], But I'd be really worried about the optics," he said.

This shit is totally ridiculous.

Let kids go where they want and enjoy themselves. If they start bothering other people with abusive behavior, however,
just shoot them.

No country is better than America at making simple things hard.

As for fucking malls, Amazon is almost done killing them anyway.
I felt bad about that until I saw this thread.
 
back in my days, the 80s, this wasn't necessary because if you became unruly, you didn't just get a ticket or walked out of the mall and trespassed. Your parents got a call and they had to come get you...........that always resulted in greater punishment.

these days, idiot parents consider corporal punishment as child abuse, so kids don't really suffer consequences except from nanny state government.

Yeah, well Mayberry ain’t the norm around the U.S., if it ever really was
 
This shit is totally ridiculous.

Let kids go where they want and enjoy themselves. If they start bothering other people with abusive behavior, however,
just shoot them.

No country is better than America at making simple things hard.

As for fucking malls, Amazon is almost done killing them anyway.
I felt bad about that until I saw this thread.

Other than perhaps seeing a film, I can’t think of a legitimate reason for a group of teens to be hanging in a Mall on a Saturday evening that is constructive, not to mention that if that is all they got going for them, they deserve to be forced to find a life
 
back in my days, the 80s, this wasn't necessary because if you became unruly, you didn't just get a ticket or walked out of the mall and trespassed. Your parents got a call and they had to come get you...........that always resulted in greater punishment.

these days, idiot parents consider corporal punishment as child abuse, so kids don't really suffer consequences except from nanny state government.

Replying to this to "Thank" it...especially the bolded.
 
Yeah, well Mayberry ain’t the norm around the U.S., if it ever really was

despite the fact that, yes, i lived in a very small town, we had to go to the next county for the mall, which was rockford Illinois.......and if anyones watching the news, they already know that rockford isn't the safest place in illinois.
 
Other than perhaps seeing a film, I can’t think of a legitimate reason for a group of teens to be hanging in a Mall on a Saturday evening that is constructive, not to mention that if that is all they got going for them, they deserve to be forced to find a life

what would you suggest teenage kids do on a saturday evening?
 
despite the fact that, yes, i lived in a very small town, we had to go to the next county for the mall, which was rockford Illinois.......and if anyones watching the news, they already know that rockford isn't the safest place in illinois.

Other than the gated village for old white people, I don’t think you believe any place is safe in America, that’s the reason you have to defend your arsenal
 
when I was a kid, many stores had a sign limiting how many kids could be in the store at a given time. Been a long, long time since I saw such a sign posted in a window
 
what would you suggest teenage kids do on a saturday evening?

Myself, don’t know, I am not a teenager, nor that it was some retailers job to entertain them, just saying, from what I remember of that age, if hanging around a Mall on a weekend night is all they got going for them they need to get a life
 
Other than perhaps seeing a film, I can’t think of a legitimate reason for a group of teens to be hanging in a Mall on a Saturday evening that is constructive, not to mention that if that is all they got going for them, they deserve to be forced to find a life

Times must have changed; when I was a kid, kids hung out. A lot.
They drank coffee, ate pizza and ice cream, smoked cigarettes, and just shot the shit the way kids used to do.
Totally normal, and many people met their girlfriends and boyfriends that way.

I think it was perfectly healthy, a lot more so than spending hours on cell phones and video games.
Now, humanity has to be on its last legs.
Neither the Gestapo nor I would have even considered having kids in todays world.
 
Other than the gated village for old white people, I don’t think you believe any place is safe in America, that’s the reason you have to defend your arsenal

prisons and jails are FULL OF COPS, yet nobody in there is safe.............so, NO, no place in america is safe. what about that don't you understand?
 
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By closing?

In 2020, Coresight Research projected that 25% of the country's approximately 1,000 malls would close shop in the following 3-5 years. In April, analysts at UBS projected that 40,000-50,000 American retail stores would shut down by 2027. They said traditional shopping malls are at particularly high risk because shoppers now prefer to make quick trips to close-by stores
https://www.businessinsider.com/ame...merican retail stores would shut down by 2027.
 
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