Hey BAC! Can you BELIEVE that this guy thinks Obama is a Black President?

[Socrtease]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/21/grandson.of.slave/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Alfred Bouey, an 84-year-old African-American, still remembers the stories from his grandfather about the scars on his body from the beatings he took as a slave in the South.

Bouey, of Oak Park, Illinois, attended Tuesday's inauguration of President Obama. Words can't express his excitement and happiness about witnessing history.

A World War II veteran, he never thought he would live to see a black president in America.

Bouey grew up in Arkansas and saw racism firsthand. He witnessed his mother being mistreated by whites in the South, but he never saw her give up. He eventually left Arkansas for Chicago.

Bouey attended the inauguration after winning Brookdale Senior Living's Experiences of a Lifetime contest. Residents at various Brookdale Senior Living communities nationwide shared their experiences and submitted their wishes as part of the contest.

Bouey shared his story and said he'd like to be there when Obama was sworn in. "My grandfather and grandmother were whipped and beaten, and had the scars to prove it," he said.

With CNN.com's help, Taresh Moore spoke with Bouey about the inauguration ceremony. Below is a transcript of their interview.

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I didn't copy and paste the whole thing.

BAC you should call this guy up and set his ass straight about Obama not being Black.

 

[uscitizen]

Umm but he did not say anything about illegal drugs!!!

 

[Cancel7]

LOL.

We need people like bac in this world, even though he is a pain in the butt, he keeps people like me on our toes.

 

[Cancel3]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/21/grandson.of.slave/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Alfred Bouey, an 84-year-old African-American, still remembers the stories from his grandfather about the scars on his body from the beatings he took as a slave in the South.

Bouey, of Oak Park, Illinois, attended Tuesday's inauguration of President Obama. Words can't express his excitement and happiness about witnessing history.

A World War II veteran, he never thought he would live to see a black president in America.

Bouey grew up in Arkansas and saw racism firsthand. He witnessed his mother being mistreated by whites in the South, but he never saw her give up. He eventually left Arkansas for Chicago.

Bouey attended the inauguration after winning Brookdale Senior Living's Experiences of a Lifetime contest. Residents at various Brookdale Senior Living communities nationwide shared their experiences and submitted their wishes as part of the contest.

Bouey shared his story and said he'd like to be there when Obama was sworn in. "My grandfather and grandmother were whipped and beaten, and had the scars to prove it," he said.

With CNN.com's help, Taresh Moore spoke with Bouey about the inauguration ceremony. Below is a transcript of their interview.

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I didn't copy and paste the whole thing.

BAC you should call this guy up and set his ass straight about Obama not being Black.

The saddest part about this is that they have an 84 year old talking about stories he heard from the generation before him. And talking about racism when he was a small child.

There was plenty of racism much more recently than that.

I am about to turn 49, and I attended segregated schools for the first two years of my education in public schools.

The 16th Street bombing was in my lifetime. So was the stand at the Univ of Alabama by Gov Wallace. Bull Connor turned fire hoses and dogs on black protesters in my lifetime.




Whatever can be said about Obama, this is indeed a historic occasion.

 

[blackascoal]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/21/grandson.of.slave/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Alfred Bouey, an 84-year-old African-American, still remembers the stories from his grandfather about the scars on his body from the beatings he took as a slave in the South.

Bouey, of Oak Park, Illinois, attended Tuesday's inauguration of President Obama. Words can't express his excitement and happiness about witnessing history.

A World War II veteran, he never thought he would live to see a black president in America.

Bouey grew up in Arkansas and saw racism firsthand. He witnessed his mother being mistreated by whites in the South, but he never saw her give up. He eventually left Arkansas for Chicago.

Bouey attended the inauguration after winning Brookdale Senior Living's Experiences of a Lifetime contest. Residents at various Brookdale Senior Living communities nationwide shared their experiences and submitted their wishes as part of the contest.

Bouey shared his story and said he'd like to be there when Obama was sworn in. "My grandfather and grandmother were whipped and beaten, and had the scars to prove it," he said.

With CNN.com's help, Taresh Moore spoke with Bouey about the inauguration ceremony. Below is a transcript of their interview.

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I didn't copy and paste the whole thing.

BAC you should call this guy up and set his ass straight about Obama not being Black.

You are serioulsy DUMB. Are you under some goddamn illusion that because Obama has black skin all black people should support him? Did your grandpappy tell you we were a monolithic people who not only all look alike but think alike?

How old are you?

Who is Black America’s Moral Emissary to the World?

The global reputation of Black America has suffered greatly under George Bush, who deployed Black faces as fronts for his vicious brand of U.S. imperialism. Barack Obama's silence on the Israeli assault on Gaza suggests that his honeymoon with the planet won't last long. So who is to represent the progressive values of African Americans on the world stage? "Thanks to Cynthia McKinney, millions of Arabs have been made aware of a different Black America, one that is not silent, like Barack Obama, in the face of a purposely inflicted human rights catastrophe."
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1&limit=14&limitstart=14

The Soul of Barack Obama: Part 1 - Not My President

For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Mark 8:36.

Barack Obama has sold his soul. Okay… let me be more specific… he has sold the “Black” part of his soul in his bid to gain the presidency of the United States of America.
http://afrospear.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/the-soul-of-barack-obama-part-1/

I could post a 1000 such articles from black people who question Obama's commitment to black issues .. you dumb asshole.

Oh massa' cain't we po' negroes be allowed to form our own konklusions?

Ain't (eb) we free enough to at least do that massa'?

Get the fuck outta here with your racist paternalistic bullshit.

 

[Annie]

The saddest part about this is that they have an 84 year old talking about stories he heard from the generation before him. And talking about racism when he was a small child.

There was plenty of racism much more recently than that.

I am about to turn 49, and I attended segregated schools for the first two years of my education in public schools.

The 16th Street bombing was in my lifetime. So was the stand at the Univ of Alabama by Gov Wallace. Bull Connor turned fire hoses and dogs on black protesters in my lifetime.




Whatever can be said about Obama, this is indeed a historic occasion.

I agree. It's what I've been talking about in my classes the past 2 days. Racism/prejudice are evident in the US, no doubt about that. From the skinhead types to the black/Chinese gangbangers. But know what? Most aren't, which is why Obama took the oath yesterday, no matter how messed up it was.

With that oath, (well actually before), power peacefully transferred to him. With his election, those who hate were put on notice, they've lost, no matter how desperately they wish to gain members.

I may not have voted for him for policy reasons, BAC may not have for different policy reasons, but in either case it wasn't because of his race. I think that is something to celebrate and have. Funny thing today, asked the classes who 'would have voted for Obama if old enough?' The majority went with him. It's like their 'election votes' never were, (McCain won in landslide in our DuPage County mock election). LOL! Everyone wants to be with the winner!

Part of me wonders if his honeymoon will last longer than one would predict. I'm not so sure, I don't think most really care about his race, it will come down to his policies and results, same reason I voted the way I did.

 

[blackascoal]

The saddest part about this is that they have an 84 year old talking about stories he heard from the generation before him. And talking about racism when he was a small child.

There was plenty of racism much more recently than that.

I am about to turn 49, and I attended segregated schools for the first two years of my education in public schools.

The 16th Street bombing was in my lifetime. So was the stand at the Univ of Alabama by Gov Wallace. Bull Connor turned fire hoses and dogs on black protesters in my lifetime.

Whatever can be said about Obama, this is indeed a historic occasion.

The saddest part about this is having to listen to white people who've had no hand in the struggles of African-Americans suddenly feel so empowered that they presume themselves to admonish black people about Obama.

That racism you speak of .. I've lived it, so did my father and mother. I don't need an asshole like Soc to tell me.

Then claim joy to the world, racism is dead.

Son of a bitch is this bizzarro world?

 

[NOVA]

You are serioulsy DUMB. Are you under some goddamn illusion that because Obama has black skin all black people should support him? Did your grandpappy tell you we were a monolithic people who not only all look alike but think alike?

How old are you?

Who is Black America’s Moral Emissary to the World?

The global reputation of Black America has suffered greatly under George Bush, who deployed Black faces as fronts for his vicious brand of U.S. imperialism. Barack Obama's silence on the Israeli assault on Gaza suggests that his honeymoon with the planet won't last long. So who is to represent the progressive values of African Americans on the world stage? "Thanks to Cynthia McKinney, millions of Arabs have been made aware of a different Black America, one that is not silent, like Barack Obama, in the face of a purposely inflicted human rights catastrophe."
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1&limit=14&limitstart=14

The Soul of Barack Obama: Part 1 - Not My President

For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Mark 8:36.

Barack Obama has sold his soul. Okay… let me be more specific… he has sold the “Black” part of his soul in his bid to gain the presidency of the United States of America.
http://afrospear.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/the-soul-of-barack-obama-part-1/

I could post a 1000 such articles from black people who question Obama's commitment to black issues .. you dumb asshole.

Oh massa' cain't we po' negroes be allowed to form our own konklusions?

Ain't (eb) we free enough to at least do that massa'?

Get the fuck outta here with your racist paternalistic bullshit.

You're calling Socrtease seriously dumb ??? wow...You ain't all wrong, but he ain't gonna like that....

 

[blackascoal]

I agree. It's what I've been talking about in my classes the past 2 days. Racism/prejudice are evident in the US, no doubt about that. From the skinhead types to the black/Chinese gangbangers. But know what? Most aren't, which is why Obama took the oath yesterday, no matter how messed up it was.

With that oath, (well actually before), power peacefully transferred to him. With his election, those who hate were put on notice, they've lost, no matter how desperately they wish to gain members.

I may not have voted for him for policy reasons, BAC may not have for different policy reasons, but in either case it wasn't because of his race. I think that is something to celebrate and have. Funny thing today, asked the classes who 'would have voted for Obama if old enough?' The majority went with him. It's like their 'election votes' never were, (McCain won in landslide in our DuPage County mock election). LOL! Everyone wants to be with the winner!

Part of me wonders if his honeymoon will last longer than one would predict. I'm not so sure, I don't think most really care about his race, it will come down to his policies and results, same reason I voted the way I did.

I am so full of this kind of shit I'm thinking about doing something else with my time other than trytng to share honest perspectives and opinions with braindead people. I left that other site for good because they believe it OK to toss the word nigger around .. then I come here and this creepy bastard tries to school me about black people.

I haven't spent one second here trying to tell white people what they should do or pretend I know everything about white culture.

Son of a bitch.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Obama is an African-American, but he's not the ancestor of slaves. While affirmative action was still in place, most of the scholarships went to immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean, and not to the ancestors of slaves. I think that the election of Obama proves that racism itself is in its death throws, but we are still dealing with the socioeconomic ruin towards that social group that came out of our decision to kidnap them from their homeland and enslave them.

 

[blackascoal]

You're calling Socrtease seriously dumb ??? wow...You ain't all wrong, but he ain't gonna like that....

Frankly I don't give a damn he doesn't like.

 

[Cancel3]

The saddest part about this is having to listen to white people who've had no hand in the struggles of African-Americans suddenly feel so empowered that they presume themselves to admonish black people about Obama.

That racism you speak of .. I've lived it, so did my father and mother. I don't need an asshole like Soc to tell me.

Then claim joy to the world, racism is dead.

Son of a bitch is this bizzarro world?

BAC, I am not admonishing anyone. I was simply making an observation.

If you do or don't like Obama is not what I was talking about. I was making the point that there was still open and blatant racism practiced by the government in recent memory.

And whether you like Obama or not, or whether he is really black or not, in my lifetime he would have been forced to sit on the back of the bus, not allowed in some public schools, not allowed in a state run University, and had police dogs and firehoses turned on him for daring to protest any of that.


I am not saying Obama is good or bad. I am saying that there have been huge changes. And, while there needs to be far more changes, we can celebrate the accomplishments.

 

[Annie]

The saddest part about this is having to listen to white people who've had no hand in the strruggles of African-Americans suddenly feel so empowered that they presume themselves to admonish black people about Obama.

Then claim joy to the world, racism is dead.

Son of a bitch is this bizzarro world?

BAC, I don't think most are trying to admonish blacks about Obama, from what I read, quite the contrary. I do think this election has made many feel that there should be a tempering of racism and affirmative action, but that cannot surprise you?

I saw earlier here or at another site that you made the valid point that blacks have only had a sort of equality for 42 years, as opposed to the hundreds of years they've been on this continent. No arguing with that. I think the argument comes in regarding how it's possible to right the wrongs and who should pay the price or reap any 'rewards' if such were possible.

My grandparents didn't hit the shores until 1898 and for one of them it was a transfer from a steerage ship, through and down the steps of Ellis Island, onto another ship for the Spanish-American War. Trust me, none of them owned slaves and came here only to avoid starvation. One of my grandmothers was 12 years old when she landed here, without knowing a soul. Her 'luck' came from being in a convent school from 6 years old to 11, then being put on the ship by her parents, so she wouldn't starve. She ended up being a 'English' tutor for some swells on Beacon Hill. Not easy, she was raped by one of the older brothers.

This is not an easy country, not for the natives. Not for the Pilgrims or Puritans, not for the slaves, not for the immigrants, not for anyone. It's a tough, diverse country, survival of the fittest comes to mind. Not much sense in dwelling on what was, but getting on with what is. Right now, not much is right for the vast majority of us, regardless of how we came to be here, the history of our ancestors. We need to find a way to move forward, in our case for our kids and grandkids sakes.

 

[blackascoal]

BAC, I am not admonishing anyone. I was simply making an observation.

If you do or don't like Obama is not what I was talking about. I was making the point that there was still open and blatant racism practiced by the government in recent memory.

And whether you like Obama or not, or whether he is really black or not, in my lifetime he would have been forced to sit on the back of the bus, not allowed in some public schools, not allowed in a state run University, and had police dogs and firehoses turned on him for daring to protest any of that.


I am not saying Obama is good or bad. I am saying that there have been huge changes. And, while there needs to be far more changes, we can celebrate the accomplishments.

I did not mean to imply you .. in fact I used the name of the person (SOCRTEASE) that I was talking about. I actually agreed with much of what you said.

I applaud the thought Americans are celebrating, not the man.

Why? .. Because I've studied him and I know what he's about.

Study his failed race against Congressman Bobby Rush before you declare that change has come. The only change that has come is symbolism, not substance .. and I will judge him on substance, not because his skin is black.

Had I voted for him because he was black many would have something negative to say about that too.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

BAC I think I disagree with you on TONNNNS of stuff but you having strong convictions and principles goes a long way in my book. you should definitely stick around.

 

[Cancel7]

I don't have the answers for any of this stuff. No one could have been happier than me to see the back of that frigging lunatic, bush. Obama seems sincere and real. It seems to me that I can hardly believe this is the same country, that i lived in after sept 11th. You could never have convinced me even four years ago that that country, was going to elect a black man, with the name Barack Hussein (Saddam) Obama (Osama). I almost feel as if it's surreal. I don't feel like a complete freak in my own country anymore.

But, is Obama going to change sentencing guidlines and make our justice system more fair? I don't know. I want him to. Is this the end of racism? Jesus Christ, no way! But, as someone who comes from a racist family, and who has always felt outnumbered, and out of place, to know that there are now more of me, than there are of them? That feels good. I am just waiting to see what kind of President he's going to be. Maybe he really is going to be transformative, in that, he's not going to worry about winning the argument, about making the opposition eat dirt, about making anyone admit who was right. Maybe he is just going to get shit done. Or maybe he's a big fraud. Or maybe, he's something in between. I don't know and I don't think that anyone really does right now.

I just wanted to be happy for a few days, and I really was. I think a lot of people really just wanted that.

 

[Cancel3]

BAC I think I disagree with you on TONNNNS of stuff but you having strong convictions and principles goes a long way in my book. you should definitely stick around.

I agree here. Your strong convictions and principles do make this place better. Even when I disagree with you I respect you.

Hang around. At least out of a morbid sense of curiousity.

 

[blackascoal]

BAC, I don't think most are trying to admonish blacks about Obama, from what I read, quite the contrary. I do think this election has made many feel that there should be a tempering of racism and affirmative action, but that cannot surprise you?

I saw earlier here or at another site that you made the valid point that blacks have only had a sort of equality for 42 years, as opposed to the hundreds of years they've been on this continent. No arguing with that. I think the argument comes in regarding how it's possible to right the wrongs and who should pay the price or reap any 'rewards' if such were possible.

My grandparents didn't hit the shores until 1898 and for one of them it was a transfer from a steerage ship, through and down the steps of Ellis Island, onto another ship for the Spanish-American War. Trust me, none of them owned slaves and came here only to avoid starvation. One of my grandmothers was 12 years old when she landed here, without knowing a soul. Her 'luck' came from being in a convent school from 6 years old to 11, then being put on the ship by her parents, so she wouldn't starve. She ended up being a 'English' tutor for some swells on Beacon Hill. Not easy, she was raped by one of the older brothers.

This is not an easy country, not for the natives. Not for the Pilgrims or Puritans, not for the slaves, not for the immigrants, not for anyone. It's a tough, diverse country, survival of the fittest comes to mind. Not much sense in dwelling on what was, but getting on with what is. Right now, not much is right for the vast majority of us, regardless of how we came to be here, the history of our ancestors. We need to find a way to move forward, in our case for our kids and grandkids sakes.

I don't disagree with you .. but there is one truth about America that living and working in the struggle for equality has taught very well and that is RIGHTS ARE DETERMINED BY WHAT YOU CAN DEMAND .. NOT BY WHAT IS JUST, FAIR, HUMANE, HONEST, CIVIL, OR WHAT jESUS WOULD DO.

If you can't demand your rights, they are not yours.

How is it somehow odd that African-Americans would expect Obama to have an affinity and understanding of issues that concern the black community?

Would you expect that Lieberman would have such an affinity for Jewish issues? I would.

 

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You are serioulsy DUMB. Are you under some goddamn illusion that because Obama has black skin all black people should support him? Did your grandpappy tell you we were a monolithic people who not only all look alike but think alike?

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thats rich! i tell you not all black people think as you proclaim and that you generalize them and you tell me to get an argument and you proceed to tell me that since MOST black people didn't support the iraq war the iraq war was nto the black people's war...and that black people think this way due to oppression

you kill me!

 

[blackascoal]

thats rich! i tell you not all black people think as you proclaim and that you generalize them and you tell me to get an argument and you proceed to tell me that since MOST black people didn't support the iraq war the iraq war was nto the black people's war...and that black people think this way due to oppression

you kill me!

Dude, you kill yourself .. you should get smarter.

Black America's Opposition to the Iraq War

St. Louis Post Dispatch national correspondent Ron Harris talks with Farai Chideya about why a large majority of African Americans oppose the invasion and occupation of Iraq. A recent poll suggests nine out of 10 black Americans are against the war.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4976905

You're quite often just too damn easy to spank.