Hey Charver

The thing is, when you look at the pair of them calling for the preservation of the white race, marrying your 'own kind' and all that other tommyrot, you can't help thinking that if this is the result of racial purity...

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maybe it's just not worth it.
 
I seriously propose that you reduce the amount of seats in your northwest and yorkshire constituencies to precisely the amount necessary to deny them a seat at the next election. Because, you know, democracy is fun like that.
 
Watermark said:
I seriously propose that you reduce the amount of seats in your northwest and yorkshire constituencies to precisely the amount necessary to deny them a seat at the next election. Because, you know, democracy is fun like that.
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That's something i've been wondering about. There is no reason why the respective areas are the size and shape that they are. Where i live (Cumbria) we have little to no ties with the rest of the North West constituency and share more in common with the North East.

I don't see why Cumbria couldn't swap constituencies and take an MEP with us to the NE. This would have had the unfortunate effect of removing the BNP's seat but that can't be helped.

Or we could just scrap the European parliament, which would be nice.
 
charver said:
That's something i've been wondering about. There is no reason why the respective areas are the size and shape that they are. Where i live (Cumbria) we have little to no ties with the rest of the North West constituency and share more in common with the North East.

I don't see why Cumbria couldn't swap constituencies and take an MEP with us to the NE. This would have had the unfortunate effect of removing the BNP's seat but that can't be helped.

Or we could just scrap the European parliament, which would be nice.
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I'm unfortunately pro-European, which is unfortunately irrelevant, given my location in America, but relevant given my disagreement with you. Also, given my rather unfortunate obsession with PR (which I still hold, but don't talk about because then I'd have no friends) I would simply replace your parliament with one elected by PR if I had a choice (and weren't in the unfortunate predicament of being located in a different continent), in which case we'd be in the same predicament anyway. So I think you should just always keep a version of PR that allows you to gerrymander your seats to where you have the least amount of embarrassing BNP in your parliament possible - preferably zero.
 
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Watermark said:
I'm unfortunately pro-European, which is unfortunately irrelevant, given my location in America, but relevant given my disagreement with you.
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I'm not necessarily 'anti-Europe'.

It's just that the direction the EU project has been heading is fundamentally anti-democratic. I have some sympathy with people who ask why they are voting in European Parliamentary elections for a Parliament that doesn't initiate any legislation.
 
charver said:
I'm not necessarily 'anti-Europe'.

It's just that the direction the EU project has been heading is fundamentally anti-democratic. I have some sympathy with people who ask why they are voting in European Parliamentary elections for a Parliament that doesn't initiate any legislation.
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Yeah, I don't really understand the European government either. The European parliament should have total control over powers Europe is granted. Which has mostly to deal with fishing treaties. Else the American or French multi-branch systems should be put in place. Unelected officials are an anachronism that is no longer required. As a person unfortunately located in America, I offer that unfortunately irrelevant advice.
 
Watermark said:
Yeah, I don't really understand the European government either. The European parliament should have total control over powers Europe is granted. Which has mostly to deal with fishing treaties. Else the American or French multi-branch systems should be put in place. Unelected officials are an anachronism that is no longer required. As a person unfortunately located in America, I offer that unfortunately irrelevant advice.
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I do often wonder if there is anyone out there who does understand how the EU works. It seems as if the whole thing was created to be so intricate and secretive as to keep European people (and of course, Americans) as much in the dark as possible.

I've actually studied this stuff from historical and legal angles and the more you delve into it the more disturbing it becomes (although i find that the ladies are particularly impressed with a detailed knowledge of Qualified Majority Voting principles in the Council of Ministers, especially in regard to Fisheries quotas), sort of like the public are quite inconvenient in all this politics bidness.

Come the revolution i shall appoint you as my chief electoral systems advisor and you shall rewrite the statute books, bringing true democracy to the people, in between shooting conservatives, of course.
 
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