Hey, Ukrainiacs
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Kagan contributed to CEPA's “7-point Plan for Sustainable Peace in Ukraine" which demands the US “provide immediate material support” to Ukraine, engage in “maximum pressure strategy” against Russia, and paves the way for US involvement in the conflict.
They want the war to continue.
They want the war to continue.
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In 2014, Senator Chris Murphy bragged about the United States successfully overthrowing Ukraine's government:
"I think it was our role, including sanctions and threats of sanctions, that forced Yanukovych from office."
"We have not sat on the sidelines. We have been very much involved. Members of the Senate have been there. Members of the State Department have been on the Square,
The Obama administration passed sanctions. The Senate was prepared to pass its own set of sanctions, and as I've said, I think that the clear position of the United States has, in part, been what has helped lead to this change in regime.
If, ultimately, this is a peaceful transition to a new government in Ukraine, it will be the U.S. on the streets of Ukraine who will be seen as a great friend in helping make that transition happen.
There is a U.S. interest here. We are in the middle of negotiating a new trade agreement with Europe. To my state, it's enormously important. We do 40% of our trade in Connecticut with Europe.
If Ukraine is part of the EU and thus is part of this new trade agreement with the United States, that could result in billions of dollars in new economic opportunities for the U.S.
So, we do have an economic interest in Ukraine being a part of the EU, and we shouldn't be shy about making that interest clear."
View: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1896630661118874001
In 2014, Senator Chris Murphy bragged about the United States successfully overthrowing Ukraine's government:
"I think it was our role, including sanctions and threats of sanctions, that forced Yanukovych from office."
"We have not sat on the sidelines. We have been very much involved. Members of the Senate have been there. Members of the State Department have been on the Square,
The Obama administration passed sanctions. The Senate was prepared to pass its own set of sanctions, and as I've said, I think that the clear position of the United States has, in part, been what has helped lead to this change in regime.
If, ultimately, this is a peaceful transition to a new government in Ukraine, it will be the U.S. on the streets of Ukraine who will be seen as a great friend in helping make that transition happen.
There is a U.S. interest here. We are in the middle of negotiating a new trade agreement with Europe. To my state, it's enormously important. We do 40% of our trade in Connecticut with Europe.
If Ukraine is part of the EU and thus is part of this new trade agreement with the United States, that could result in billions of dollars in new economic opportunities for the U.S.
So, we do have an economic interest in Ukraine being a part of the EU, and we shouldn't be shy about making that interest clear."
View: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1896630661118874001
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Tucker Carlson reads Amaryllis Kennedy’s message about Ukraine.
View: https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1896966367418474553
View: https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1896966367418474553
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It’s incredible that so many people don’t understand this.
View: https://x.com/CNviolations/status/1897026765249261871
View: https://x.com/CNviolations/status/1897026765249261871
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Even CNN is forced to admit that Americans are MUCH happier with how Trump is handling the Russia-Ukraine war than with how Biden handled it. “HOLY COW! It’s just a different planet entirely! The gulf between these two is wider than the Gulf of America!”
View: https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1896621165151662524
View: https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1896621165151662524
Putin stops attacking Ukraine, the war ends.Kagan contributed to CEPA's “7-point Plan for Sustainable Peace in Ukraine" which demands the US “provide immediate material support” to Ukraine, engage in “maximum pressure strategy” against Russia, and paves the way for US involvement in the conflict.
They want the war to continue.
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They said, "they defend democracy," but banned elections.
They said it was "an unprovoked invasion," but they started the killing.
They said Zelensky was defending "European values" but banned the church, his native language, and the free media.
Here's their "freedom":
View: https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1897019485191893393
They said it was "an unprovoked invasion," but they started the killing.
They said Zelensky was defending "European values" but banned the church, his native language, and the free media.
Here's their "freedom":
View: https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1897019485191893393
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The talking point of the week is that Putin can not be trusted and negotiations are therefore not possible, which is a narrative to support a long war- However, Bill Clinton argued in 2013 that Putin is a man who keeps his word.
View: https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1897336907266449791
View: https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1897336907266449791
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Trump turns off Ukraine’s missiles
Ukraine’s most powerful missiles were left frozen on Wednesday after the US cut off intelligence sharing and demanded fresh talks with Volodymyr Zelensky.
Kyiv was forced to agree to reopen negotiations with the White House, and Mr Zelensky said a new summit could begin next week, after he met European leaders on Thursday.
Zelensky said there had been “positive movement” with the United States despite the White House severing surveillance data used to hold off Russian attacks and strike targets behind enemy lines.
Crucial intelligence for long-range missiles such as Himars, which have been key to holding back the Russian offensive, went dark at about 2pm on Wednesday.
White House officials said the US would only lift the ban on sharing the data if they could “nail down negotiations”, with Ukraine, which are expected to cover the minerals deal that was put on ice after the clash in the Oval Office last Friday between Zelensky and Trump.
Diplomatic sources, however, suggested Zelensky may have to offer additional concessions to get talks back on track.
The Ukrainian president has suggested committing to ending the naval war in the Black Sea and freezing long-range strikes – two things put forward by Emmanuel Macron under his plans for a temporary truce that could build confidence between both sides.
On Wednesday evening, Macron addressed the French public ahead of travelling to the Brussels summit where leaders are due to sign off weapons packages and a major defense spending splurge to placate Trump.
Trump turns off Ukraine’s missiles
Zelensky scrambles to restart talks with White House after it pulls crucial intelligence
www.telegraph.co.uk
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A lot of people tell me that Ukraine is holding its own on the battlefield, pointing to the fact that lines have barely moved in months and that Russia has taken heavy losses.
This misunderstands Russian tactics.
Russia doesn't care that much about casualties.
They also don't care very much about tank losses. Tanks to the Russians are cheap, expendable assets and their Cold War life expectancy was measured in minutes.
They also don't care about territory as such.
Their immediate war objective is not to gain territory. It is to destroy the Ukrainian army.
This it can do gradually, over months, one tank at a time, knowing that Ukraine cannot replenish its manpower.
Eventually, the Ukrainian army will be forced to consolidate where they feel most vulnerable and that means weak spots all along the front that Russia can exploit.
Western media has played heavily on the idea that Russia is taking heavy casualties and is facing manpower problems of its own, but Russia can amass a large reserve of conscripts.
A third of these are said to be prisoners, but force mass has a quality of its own.
Waves of cannon fodder will eventually overwhelm Ukrainian lines.
Right now the Ukrainian army is in chaos. It is able to put together a few battalions but once they're engaged, there are no reserves.
Once the gun barrels wear out and the ammunition runs dry, all they can do is fall back or die.
Regardless of whether Ukraine is holding its own or not, what is not in dispute is that Ukraine simply doesn't have the means to retake lost territory.
There are only two choices. Seek a peace deal as soon as possible or exhaust the Ukrainian army to nothing, in which case, there is nothing to stop the Russian army, and nothing to defend Kiev.
This misunderstands Russian tactics.
Russia doesn't care that much about casualties.
They also don't care very much about tank losses. Tanks to the Russians are cheap, expendable assets and their Cold War life expectancy was measured in minutes.
They also don't care about territory as such.
Their immediate war objective is not to gain territory. It is to destroy the Ukrainian army.
This it can do gradually, over months, one tank at a time, knowing that Ukraine cannot replenish its manpower.
Eventually, the Ukrainian army will be forced to consolidate where they feel most vulnerable and that means weak spots all along the front that Russia can exploit.
Western media has played heavily on the idea that Russia is taking heavy casualties and is facing manpower problems of its own, but Russia can amass a large reserve of conscripts.
A third of these are said to be prisoners, but force mass has a quality of its own.
Waves of cannon fodder will eventually overwhelm Ukrainian lines.
Right now the Ukrainian army is in chaos. It is able to put together a few battalions but once they're engaged, there are no reserves.
Once the gun barrels wear out and the ammunition runs dry, all they can do is fall back or die.
Regardless of whether Ukraine is holding its own or not, what is not in dispute is that Ukraine simply doesn't have the means to retake lost territory.
There are only two choices. Seek a peace deal as soon as possible or exhaust the Ukrainian army to nothing, in which case, there is nothing to stop the Russian army, and nothing to defend Kiev.
Diogenes
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Trump Exposes More Evidence Of Proxy War After Disabling Ukraine Access To U.S. Missile And Drone Systems
Trump Exposes More Evidence Of Proxy War After Disabling Ukraine Access To U.S. Missile And Drone Systems | ZeroHedge
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