House rejects Trump-backed plan on government shutdown, leaving next steps uncertain

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The house needs to stand tall against Trump and Musk on the spending bill?!! Trump and Musk should not be calling the shots either! I see a new house speaker in the future too?!!

WASHINGTON (AP) — With a resounding no, the House rejected President-elect Donald Trump's new plan Thursday to fund federal operations and suspend the debt ceiling a day before a government shutdown, as Democrats and dozens of Republicans refused to accommodate his sudden demands.

In a hastily convened evening vote punctuated by angry outbursts over the self-made crisis, the lawmakers failed to reach the two-thirds threshold needed for passage — but House Speaker Mike Johnson appeared determined to regroup, before Friday's midnight deadline.

“We're going to do the right thing here,” Johnson said ahead of the vote. But he didn't even get a majority, with the bill failing 174-235.

The outcome proved a massive setback for Trump and his billionaire ally, Elon Musk, who rampaged against Johnson's bipartisan compromise, which Republicans and Democrats had reached earlier to prevent a Christmastime government shutdown.

It provides an preview of the turbulence ahead when Trump returns to the White House with Republican control of the House and Senate. During his first term, Trump led Republicans into the longest government shutdown in history during the 2018 Christmas season, and interrupted the holidays in 2020 by tanking a bipartisan COVID-relief bill and forcing a do-over.

Hours earlier Thursday, Trump announced “SUCCESS in Washington!” in coming up with the new package which would keep government running for three more months, add $100.4 billion in disaster assistance including for hurricane-hit states, and allow more borrowing through Jan. 30, 2027.

"Speaker Mike Johnson and the House have come to a very good Deal,” Trump posted.

But Republicans, who had spent 24 hours largely negotiating with themselves to cut out the extras conservatives opposed and come up with the new plan, ran into a wall of resistance from Democrats, who were in no hurry to appease demands from Trump — or Musk.

House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries said Democrats were sticking with the original deal with Johnson and called the new one “laughable.”

“It's not a serious proposal,” Jeffries said as he walked to Democrats' own closed-door caucus meeting. Inside, Democrats were chanting, “Hell, no!”

All day, Johnson had been fighting to figure out how to meet Trump's almost impossible demands — and keep his own job — while federal offices are being told to prepare to shutter operations.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/government-shutdown-risk-trumps-demands-162543907.html
 
If the government shuts down, nonessential employees don't have to pretend to work.

Why does the government have employees that are nonessential?

If you're nonessential, you should not be part of the federal government.

Shut. It. Down.
 
If the government shuts down, nonessential employees don't have to pretend to work.

Why does the government have employees that are nonessential?

If you're nonessential, you should not be part of the federal government.

Shut. It. Down.
It is always extra paid vacation days for them.
 
The house needs to stand tall against Trump and Musk on the spending bill?!! Trump and Musk should not be calling the shots either! I see a new house speaker in the future too?!!

WASHINGTON (AP) — With a resounding no, the House rejected President-elect Donald Trump's new plan Thursday to fund federal operations and suspend the debt ceiling a day before a government shutdown, as Democrats and dozens of Republicans refused to accommodate his sudden demands.

In a hastily convened evening vote punctuated by angry outbursts over the self-made crisis, the lawmakers failed to reach the two-thirds threshold needed for passage — but House Speaker Mike Johnson appeared determined to regroup, before Friday's midnight deadline.

“We're going to do the right thing here,” Johnson said ahead of the vote. But he didn't even get a majority, with the bill failing 174-235.

The outcome proved a massive setback for Trump and his billionaire ally, Elon Musk, who rampaged against Johnson's bipartisan compromise, which Republicans and Democrats had reached earlier to prevent a Christmastime government shutdown.

It provides an preview of the turbulence ahead when Trump returns to the White House with Republican control of the House and Senate. During his first term, Trump led Republicans into the longest government shutdown in history during the 2018 Christmas season, and interrupted the holidays in 2020 by tanking a bipartisan COVID-relief bill and forcing a do-over.

Hours earlier Thursday, Trump announced “SUCCESS in Washington!” in coming up with the new package which would keep government running for three more months, add $100.4 billion in disaster assistance including for hurricane-hit states, and allow more borrowing through Jan. 30, 2027.

"Speaker Mike Johnson and the House have come to a very good Deal,” Trump posted.

But Republicans, who had spent 24 hours largely negotiating with themselves to cut out the extras conservatives opposed and come up with the new plan, ran into a wall of resistance from Democrats, who were in no hurry to appease demands from Trump — or Musk.

House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries said Democrats were sticking with the original deal with Johnson and called the new one “laughable.”

“It's not a serious proposal,” Jeffries said as he walked to Democrats' own closed-door caucus meeting. Inside, Democrats were chanting, “Hell, no!”

All day, Johnson had been fighting to figure out how to meet Trump's almost impossible demands — and keep his own job — while federal offices are being told to prepare to shutter operations.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/government-shutdown-risk-trumps-demands-162543907.html
Fuck you asshole, you supported the assassination of your president elect so, fuck you!
 

During shutdowns, non-essential federal employees are told not to report for work, though under a 2019 law they get paid retroactively when the shutdown ends.

In a “shutdown,” federal agencies must discontinue all non-essential discretionary functions until new funding legislation is passed and signed into law.

Discretionary spending must be appropriated every year, mandatory spending is authorized either for multi-year periods or permanently.

Mandatory spending (disbursements whose funding does not derive annual appropriations) are not affected.

Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, are mandatory spending,

Essential services continue to function.

Essential services are defined as "related to public safety". They continue to operate, with payments covering any obligations incurred when appropriations are enacted.

Border protection, in-hospital medical care, air traffic control, law enforcement, and power grid maintenance are classified as essential.

Some legislative and judicial staff are also not subject to furlough.

Other activities that continue are self-funding; i.e. funded by permanent user fees not subject to Congressional appropriations, like immigration services, which are funded by visa fees.

Programs that are funded through advance appropriations, such as those within the Veterans Health Administration, have been minimally affected during recent shutdowns.
 
This is a very good precursor of what's to come.

This will likely be the most chaotic, ineffective, ego-driven & hilarious admins in America's history.


Worried about Medicare?

Don't be.

Worried about Medicaid?

Don't be.

Worried about SNAP?

Don't be.

Are you even worried at all?
 

Hakeem Jeffries Lets Mike Johnson Dig His Own Spending Bill Grave​

Mike Johnson is about to be hoist by his own petard, and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries isn’t coming to the rescue this time.

During a press conference Thursday with House Democratic leaders, Jeffries was asked whether his party would consider voting for Johnson to retain the speakership amid a Republican “revolt,” if the speaker were to put something “amiable” in his continuing resolution.

“No,” Jeffries answered flatly.

The House minority leader spoke harshly about Republicans’ antics, which upended the hefty bipartisan spending bill that would have funded the government until March.

“That bipartisan agreement has now been detonated because House Republicans have been ordered to shut down the government, and hurt the very working-class Americans that many of them pretend to want to help,” Jeffries said.

CNN’s chief congressional correspondent Manu Raju posted on X that sources in a closed-door meeting said that Jeffries and other top Democrats have been “conveying to their members that they are in no mood to bail out Speaker Johnson from the spending drama after Donald Trump’s late demands.”

Raju wrote that Johnson had yet to connect with Jeffries since the original spending bill collapsed, and that Johnson was seeking a way forward among GOP members, who don’t exactly seem to be in agreement.

Late Wednesday, almost 24 hours after the 1,547-page bill had been released and Republicans had been running around like chickens with their heads cut off, Trump finally responded to the bill, demanding that House Republicans find a way to raise the debt ceiling—or abolish it altogether, he said later.

Jeffries previously moved to save Johnson’s job when Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene attempted to have him ousted in April, dismissing her motion to remove the Louisiana Republican as “pro-Putin Republican obstruction.”

While House Democrats sought to minimize the chaos eight months ago, their will to fight for the embattled Johnson to retain his gavel appears to have greatly diminished. And this time, Greene’s floated replacing Johnson with Elon Musk.

By Thursday evening, the image of a new “clean” continuing resolution began to emerge. This bill would suspend the debt ceiling for 24 months, until January 2027, as Trump had requested. It would also give $110 billion in disaster aid and extend the farm bill, while cutting some other provisions, such as one promoting the sale of high-ethanol gasoline.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hakeem-jeffries-lets-mike-johnson-214235877.html
 
If the government shuts down, nonessential employees don't have to pretend to work. Why does the government have employees that are nonessential? If you're nonessential, you should not be part of the federal government.

Shut. It. Down.
For many years, I have demanded we run a test, i.e.we shut the government down and see whether the world ends. If the world does not end, we just keep the government shut down until we see problems that We the People need fixed, and then we simply remove those dependencies on the government.

Now is a perfect time to run the test.

Shut. It. Down.
 
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Damn straight! You are so spot on. That's what I'm talking about! Hear - Hear! I couldn't agree more. You hit the nail on the head!
 
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