How Badly Harris Lost and Why

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How Badly Harris Lost and Why​

By Clarice Feldman

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Donald Trump appears to have been the first yRepublican in 20 years to win the popular vote.



Scouring the internet, the only Democrat figure who seems to be smiling is President Joe Biden. For the others it seems to be a time of mourning. A look at the results, their implications, and the machinations of the federal bureaucracy is in order.

The very best wrapup is by Victor Davis Hanson.



Harris-Walz were not the only losers: There were the media which gave Trump 95% negative coverage and the pollsters:
www.americanthinker.com

How Badly Harris Lost and Why

Donald Trump appears to have been the first Republican in 20 years to win the popular vote. Scouring the internet, the only Democrat figure who seems to be smiling is President Joe Biden. For the others it seems to be a time of mourning. A look at...
www.americanthinker.com www.americanthinker.com
 
“The polls -- with the exception once again of AltasIntel, Trafalgar, and Rasmussen -- were off, and way off in the Senate races. The pollsters’ reputation is again in full reverse and now back to their nadir of 2020 and 2016. Many shamelessly warped their data in the last two weeks to gin up Kamala Harris momentum, fundraising, and voter turnout. And to no avail.



There were plenty of indications long ago in key states of a Donald Trump thunderstorm: defections of minorities, anger among both the Jewish and Muslim voters, alienated union members, massive increases in Republican registrations, and non-Election Day balloting. And all were deliberately ignored by the corrupt media and pollsters.

The worst of cable news was MSNBC, which Comcast is trying to unload. I don’t see any takers.”






The issues Harris-Walz chose to run on were wildly unpopular, says Hanson:

Open borders, hyperinflation, abortion deification, the transgendered mania, the crime wave, and the “green” obsessions all did their bit to repel voters. The “racist” Trump won more minority support than any Dole, McCain, or Romney figure of the past.
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Has anyone seen her?
Everyday it becomes more embarrassing to be her...When the "Call Your Daddy" host mocks you for spending $100,000 on a fake interview in a fake cardboard set , it's nothing but downhill from there...
 
TOP said:
Has anyone seen her?
Everyday it becomes more embarrassing to be her...When the "Call Your Daddy" host mocks you for spending $100,000 on a fake interview in a fake cardboard set , it's nothing but downhill from there...
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Indeed.

She is AWOL and Biden went to sleep in a meeting in Africa.

This is the vice-president and the leader of the free world.

 
Earl said:
Indeed.

She is AWOL and Biden went to sleep in a meeting in Africa.

This is the vice-president and the leader of the free world.
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He was Sound asleep...lol...
Seriously, maybe we''l find out who's in "charge"....and actually responsible for the disastrous last four years...
We know it wasn't one of those two...
 
And another snippet from Earl's article ...

"Simply put, Democrats, we want to be left alone. You mandated EVs which we don’t want and left manufacturers with unsold vehicles and workers out of jobs -- goodbye, Michigan. You try to cut out fracking and ignore the many workers employed in it -- goodbye, Pennsylvania. Nothing has escaped your overreach, not gas stoves, raw milk, plastic bags, or straws. You infringed on our rights to free speech to refuse untested vaccines and move about unmasked. You are removing children from their families in order to mutilate them, punishing people for misgendering while ignoring campus antisemitism, mandating men in women’s sports and private spaces, confusing our children with pornographic school books. It’s compulsive tyranny made worse by the faulty bases for these actions.

On a lighter note, the America’s newspaper of record, the satirical Babylon Bee, reports that Nancy Pelosi has already begun drafting articles of impeachment against Trump."
 
Eh, it's over. She had 3+ months to run, bested Trump easily in their one debate and lost by less than 2% nationwide. The polls had it pretty even at the end - I'm not seeing how they were way off or anything.

I don't even know why the right is still talking about Harris at all. MAGA gotta govern now.
 
BartenderElite said:
Eh, it's over. She had 3+ months to run, bested Trump easily in their one debate and lost by less than 2% nationwide. The polls had it pretty even at the end - I'm not seeing how they were way off or anything.

I don't even know why the right is still talking about Harris at all. MAGA gotta govern now.
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God your revisionism is encouraging.

Anyone who suggested a popular vote defeat of 2% for the democratic candidate before November 5th would have been laughed off the propagandist's staged talk shows. The View would have been cackling for hours at the idea.

Barely a month and you people think you can get away with gaslighting us about this stuff.
 
ADreamOfLiberty said:
God your revisionism is encouraging.

Anyone who suggested a popular vote defeat of 2% for the democratic candidate before November 5th would have been laughed off the propagandist's staged talk shows. The View would have been cackling for hours at the idea.

Barely a month and you people think you can get away with gaslighting us about this stuff.
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Revisionist?

I repeatedly saw nothing but the fact that the race was extremely tight. I'm not the one being revisionist. And the polls were the polls - they were tight until the end, w/ a few outliers like that one in Iowa.

I don't have a "people," btw.
 
Just checked the final Presidential polls - pretty much every national poll was within the margin of error. But I guess I was "gaslighting" to suggest that they were "pretty even at the end."

Anyone want "revisionist gaslighting"? How about trying to suggest that the worst jobs President in modern American history had a great economy when he was in office, or trying to portray J6 as a tourist event?
 
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BartenderElite said:
Eh, it's over. She had 3+ months to run, bested Trump easily in their one debate and lost by less than 2% nationwide. The polls had it pretty even at the end - I'm not seeing how they were way off or anything.

I don't even know why the right is still talking about Harris at all. MAGA gotta govern now.
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What election were you watching...?
 
BartenderElite said:
What was I off about?
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Error bars.

To you in revisionist mode a poll saying 49 Harris 48 trump is basically the same as 49 trump 48 Harris but nobody in the propaganda establishment entertained with a straight face a 2% or 1% win for trump in the popular vote.

It hasn't happened for 20 years. It's big news and it makes the loss a big one.
 
ADreamOfLiberty said:
Error bars.

To you in revisionist mode a poll saying 49 Harris 48 trump is basically the same as 49 trump 48 Harris but nobody in the propaganda establishment entertained with a straight face a 2% or 1% win for trump in the popular vote.

It hasn't happened for 20 years. It's big news and it makes the loss a big one.
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I didn't say anything in the post you responded to about the "propaganda establishment." All I said - literally - was that the "polls had it pretty even at the end."

So, please - what was I "gaslighting" about? Be specific.
 
BartenderElite said:
I didn't say anything in the post you responded to about the "propaganda establishment." All I said - literally - was that the "polls had it pretty even at the end."

So, please - what was I "gaslighting" about? Be specific.
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I was specific. When you say things in a thread it is interpreted in the context of the thread. It doesn't matter if you think the polls were close, it was a bad and unpredicted defeat.

"they were way off or anything." They = the people presenting predictions to the public, not your opinion on the margin of error in a poll. Slap a big enough margin of error any every poll can save its reputation, but it also becomes meaningless.
 
ADreamOfLiberty said:
I was specific. When you say things in a thread it is interpreted in the context of the thread. It doesn't matter if you think the polls were close, it was a bad and unpredicted defeat.

"they were way off or anything." They = the people presenting predictions to the public, not your opinion on the margin of error in a poll. Slap a big enough margin of error any every poll can save its reputation, but it also becomes meaningless.
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I wasn't talking about the people presenting predictions. I was talking strictly about the polls - that was "they" in my response. It's kind of conventional wisdom that they're always way off & completely unreliable, but they weren't this past election. They didn't necessarily show Trump winning, but it was a coin flip.

I get that you're looking at my initial response in the context of the overall thread, but I wasn't trying to spin anything. I just made a statement of fact. Trump deserves his flowers - he defied expectations and you're right that the 1st Republican to win the popular vote in 2 decades is noteworthy. But I wasn't revisionist w/ my post, and I didn't gaslight.
 
BartenderElite said:
I wasn't talking about the people presenting predictions. I was talking strictly about the polls - that was "they" in my response. It's kind of conventional wisdom that they're always way off & completely unreliable, but they weren't this past election. They didn't necessarily show Trump winning, but it was a coin flip.

I get that you're looking at my initial response in the context of the overall thread, but I wasn't trying to spin anything. I just made a statement of fact. Trump deserves his flowers - he defied expectations and you're right that the 1st Republican to win the popular vote in 2 decades is noteworthy. But I wasn't revisionist w/ my post, and I didn't gaslight.
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Alright, since I can't prove the scope of your statements I'll apologize for jumping the gun.
 
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