How do you fact check?

Evmetro

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When checking for the accuracy of a claim, report, post, or thread, I believe there is more to it than going to the internet and finding a couple articles that validate what you want the truth to be. Fact checking should indeed include searching a few sites that validate what you WANT the truth to be, but it is also important to research a few sites that support the position of your political opponents.
 
Depending on the subject it can be next to impossible to get the true facts with so many pro and con sites out there. So often one has to just go with their gut feelings.
 
Check the net and read several sites. I discard Brietbart an Infowars immediately. Fox is close to them . I see who wrote the article.
 
Check the net and read several sites. I discard Brietbart an Infowars immediately. Fox is close to them . I see who wrote the article.

If you are looking for the truth, why would you want to exclude these sites from consideration? Wouldn't this be imposing ignorance upon yourself?

When I am fact checking, I love coming across the Daily Kos just as much as I like coming across Infowars. I don't believe either of them, but I certainly will sift through whatever propaganda they have to offer. The idea with fact checking is to gain enough information about something to decide if it is true or not, and it is much harder to tell if I block information sources.
 
If you are looking for the truth, why would you want to exclude these sites from consideration? Wouldn't this be imposing ignorance upon yourself?

When I am fact checking, I love coming across the Daily Kos just as much as I like coming across Infowars. I don't believe either of them, but I certainly will sift through whatever propaganda they have to offer. The idea with fact checking is to gain enough information about something to decide if it is true or not, and it is much harder to tell if I block information sources.

There are fact checking sites which offer an explanation of their findings

Politifact
Factcheck.org
Snopes
Truth be Told
NPR Fact-Check
Lie Detector
Hoax Slayer

Are all of them 100% objective, probably not, but they offer a good beginning
 
There are fact checking sites which offer an explanation of their findings

Politifact
Factcheck.org
Snopes
Truth be Told
NPR Fact-Check
Lie Detector
Hoax Slayer

Are all of them 100% objective, probably not, but they offer a good beginning

Each of them could be considered a good source of propaganda to sift through, but a fact checking that utilized all of those sites and only those sites would not be a fact check at all. Those are all lefty sites. I read them when I fact check, but I also balance out my research with righty sites.
 
Each of them could be considered a good source of propaganda to sift through, but a fact checking that utilized all of those sites and only those sites would not be a fact check at all. Those are all lefty sites. I read them when I fact check, but I also balance out my research with righty sites.

Your not interested in a fact checking site, you just want something to confirm what you want to believe, in your case, stick with the Brietbarts, InfoWars, WTF, pat dollards, Blaze, Inserruction something or other, Gateway, etc., and drop the pretentiousness
 
When checking for the accuracy of a claim, report, post, or thread, I believe there is more to it than going to the internet and finding a couple articles that validate what you want the truth to be. Fact checking should indeed include searching a few sites that validate what you WANT the truth to be, but it is also important to research a few sites that support the position of your political opponents.

The easiest way is that if it was posted by a liberal, it's probably safe to consider it to be false. :D
 
If you are looking for the truth, why would you want to exclude these sites from consideration? Wouldn't this be imposing ignorance upon yourself?

When I am fact checking, I love coming across the Daily Kos just as much as I like coming across Infowars. I don't believe either of them, but I certainly will sift through whatever propaganda they have to offer. The idea with fact checking is to gain enough information about something to decide if it is true or not, and it is much harder to tell if I block information sources.

Because they have no relationship to the truth. They are propaganda. Ailes said in court that Fox is entertainment, not news. That they are competing with ESPN and other entertainment channels. Also in court, Alex Jones said he is not as crazy as he appears. That he is playing a character on TV. And you idiots think it si news. WTF.
 
When checking for the accuracy of a claim, report, post, or thread, I believe there is more to it than going to the internet and finding a couple articles that validate what you want the truth to be. Fact checking should indeed include searching a few sites that validate what you WANT the truth to be, but it is also important to research a few sites that support the position of your political opponents.

I don't fact check bias. I compare facts reported over multiple sources. The closer to local media I can get to the facts, the more I trust them--local papers, TV stations etc.
 
Your not interested in a fact checking site, you just want something to confirm what you want to believe, in your case, stick with the Brietbarts, InfoWars, WTF, pat dollards, Blaze, Inserruction something or other, Gateway, etc., and drop the pretentiousness

I certainly like the righty sites better, but I don't trust ANY site, right or left.

I had to learn a lot about fact checking when I switched from being a lefty to being a righty. I can remember being much more concerned when I first encountered Infowars back then, but at that time I did not understand how to fact check yet. It has taken years to be able to figure out what to do with all the conflicting propaganda on the internet, and the biggest take away for me is that you don't trust ANY site, and you do not avoid ANY site. We probably won't ever know much of the actual truth, all we can do is triangulate the most likely truth from as many different sources as possible.
 
Because they have no relationship to the truth. They are propaganda. Ailes said in court that Fox is entertainment, not news. That they are competing with ESPN and other entertainment channels. Also in court, Alex Jones said he is not as crazy as he appears. That he is playing a character on TV. And you idiots think it si news. WTF.

Lol, I damn sure do not consider it news. I am not aware of any sites that are not propaganda at this point. Propaganda is all we really have to work with from the left or the right.
 
I don't fact check bias. I compare facts reported over multiple sources. The closer to local media I can get to the facts, the more I trust them--local papers, TV stations etc.

That is a nice tip on trying to get local, I will give it a try.
 
I certainly like the righty sites better, but I don't trust ANY site, right or left.

I had to learn a lot about fact checking when I switched from being a lefty to being a righty. I can remember being much more concerned when I first encountered Infowars back then, but at that time I did not understand how to fact check yet. It has taken years to be able to figure out what to do with all the conflicting propaganda on the internet, and the biggest take away for me is that you don't trust ANY site, and you do not avoid ANY site. We probably won't ever know much of the actual truth, all we can do is triangulate the most likely truth from as many different sources as possible.

So in other words what you are saying is that there is no truth, only right and left versions of truth, which is the premise you have always had except now your trying to justify it. Your wrong, as Moynihan said years ago, "one is entitled to his own opinions, but not his own facts

When you take a sight as "Politfact" which usually offers a full explanation of their findings and how they arrived at them, with plenty of avenues to cross check, and simply just dismiss it as left wing propaganda your agenda is obvious

Why you pretending to you are actually looking for fact checking?
 
So in other words what you are saying is that there is no truth, only right and left versions of truth,

No. I am saying that we probably won't ever know the actual truth. Lefty and righty reporters will gather information about something, but they only gather the information that they need in order to further their political cause. This means that when it is presented to us (lefties AND righties), it is already formatted to advance a particular political objective. The actual truth is not the objective of reporters on either side of the aisle.

which is the premise you have always had except now your trying to justify it. Your wrong, as Moynihan said years ago, "one is entitled to his own opinions, but not his own facts

Then you are entitled to this.

When you take a sight as "Politfact" which usually offers a full explanation of their findings and how they arrived at them, with plenty of avenues to cross check, and simply just dismiss it as left wing propaganda your agenda is obvious

It is pure lefty propaganda, but I do NOT dismiss it on that basis. I still use it to help triangulating the truth.

Why you pretending to you are actually looking for fact checking?

I know how to fact check, but thought it would be fun to discuss it with others. I only visit this forum for recreation.
 
When checking for the accuracy of a claim, report, post, or thread, I believe there is more to it than going to the internet and finding a couple articles that validate what you want the truth to be. Fact checking should indeed include searching a few sites that validate what you WANT the truth to be, but it is also important to research a few sites that support the position of your political opponents.

I use government data when possible: BLS, IRS, CBO, Census...Also use the fact checker sites: WA Post Fact Checker, Snopes...

Avoid any partisan sites: Fox, MSNBC, Progressive, Infowars...........
 
I use government data when possible: BLS, IRS, CBO, Census...Also use the fact checker sites: WA Post Fact Checker, Snopes...

Avoid any partisan sites: Fox, MSNBC, Progressive, Infowars...........

The government data may be good for some statistical fact checking, cool idea.

Snopes is a fact checking site, so it is lefty biased. "Fact checking" specific sites are lefty sites.

Considering that all sites are partisan, what information are you trying to block when you avoid certain ones?
 
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