How long before Democrats cave...again?

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Cypress

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will the cave-in be measured in weeks, days...or nanoseconds?


Reid: No new war funds without timetable

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday that Democrats won't approve more money for the Iraq war this year unless President Bush agrees to begin bringing troops home.

By the end of the week, the House and Senate planned to vote on a $50 billion measure for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. The bill would require Bush to initiate troop withdrawals immediately with the goal of ending combat by December 2008.

If Bush vetoes the bill, "then the president won't get his $50 billion," Reid, D-Nev., told reporters at a Capitol Hill news conference.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., made a similar statement last week in a closed-door caucus meeting.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-11-13-reid-funding_N.htm?csp=34
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oh, and see this is what pi$ses me off. If this is such a great idea, why the heck haven't they done it before? What's so different now versus January of this year?
 
LadyT said:
oh, and see this is what pi$ses me off. If this is such a great idea, why the heck haven't they done it before? What's so different now versus January of this year?
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1) They're weak.

2) I think they assumed they could end this war in a bipartisan way, with republicans coming accross the aisle to join them. It didn't happen. Republicans don't want to end the war.
 
Cypress said:
1) They're weak.

2) I think they assumed they could end this war in a bipartisan way, with republicans coming accross the aisle to join them. It didn't happen. Republicans don't want to end the war.
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I don't know which one is worse. Point 1 or the underlined part. I think we all knew it wasn't going to be ended with a bipartisan effort. So why even try. After 7 years of dealing with that POS on the hill, they should have went in with guns a blazing and cut off the check book from the start. They had the people behind and it woudl have been the right and moral thing to do. But noooooooooo......they wait until November.

I've become completely disheartened by this entire ordeal. I don't know who I'm voting for next election.
 
The more salient point is .. hoiw long will those who vote for democrats cave again.

They whine and moan about the cowardice of the Democratic Party .. then they do nothing but make excuses for them.

The democrats in Congress have no pressure on them from those who continue to support the two-party trap.

The responsibility for America and its future does not rest with politicians, it rest in the laps of the American people .. who are themselves too cowardly to do anything about the "fuck you" they get from politicians.

The Declaration of Independence should be required reading for anyone who votes.
 
I'm still thinking about the "me too" part of Obama's speech this past week.

This could be an historic moment for Democrats, but I don't have my hopes up too high on that one...
 
Not long. It angers me that they are playing with soldiers' lives and well-being simply to wave around their political dick, which they won't end up using in the end.
 
LadyT said:
oh, and see this is what pi$ses me off. If this is such a great idea, why the heck haven't they done it before? What's so different now versus January of this year?
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It is closer to election time now. They have to make it look like they are trying because we all know that the sheeple's memories last only about 6 months - year.
 
Update . . .

It seems that the Dims aren't going to cave completely. At least not until, you guessed it, right before the first primaries.

Is there still hope? Some, yes. Not much, but some.

Nearly a year after anti-war voters put them in power, congressional Democrats remain unable to pass legislation ordering troops home from Iraq. Frustrated by Republican roadblocks, Democrats now plan to sit on President Bush's $196 billion request for war spending until next year — pushing the Pentagon toward an accounting nightmare and deepening their conflict with the White House on the war.

"We're going to continue to do the right thing for the American people by having limited accountability for the president and not a blank check," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

Senate Republicans on Friday blocked a $50 billion bill by Democrats that would have paid for several months of combat but also would have ordered troop withdrawals from Iraq to begin within 30 days. The measure, narrowly passed this week by the House, also would have set a goal of ending combat in December 2008.

The 53-45 vote was seven votes short of the 60 needed to advance. It came minutes after the Senate rejected a Republican proposal to pay for the Iraq war with no strings attached.

Now, Democratic leaders say they won't send President Bush a war spending bill this year. They calculate the military has enough money to run through mid-February.
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/11/13/national/w095047S31.DTL
 
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