I am disappointed in Ron Paul

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Today is a new day so time to deal.

Paul doesn't care about anyone. No one. While the typical Repub doesn't care about the poor and ill and less fortunate Paul takes it a step further. His opposition to wars is not based on morality or what's right or wrong. His opposition is to doing anything that might help another. He doesn't look at war as "this is a just/good war" or "this is an unjust/bad war". Paul's philosophy is "what's in it for me?" What he tries to sell as freedom is nothing more than simply not giving a damn.

It's the same thing we hear from the Repubs. Government help is twisted into government control. "Don't let the government help with medical care. They'll control you." "Don't let the government expand social programs. They just want control over your life."

Of course, we know that's bullsh!t. Let's say the government came out and said they'd keep medical care strictly private, no forced coverage for pre-existing conditions, no interference in insurance companies or how a person obtained insurance, no "control" whatsoever, HOWEVER, if a person required medical care and didn't have the resources the government would cover the cost and tax you for the bill. Would that be OK with you?

No death panels. No government decisions regarding your medical care. Absolutely no interference. All you had to do was help pay for the other person's medical expenses. That would solve the so-called "problem" the Repubs spout, wouldn't it? If a person is entitled to Unemployment Insurance they should receive benefits and if they want to lie on the beach all day the government shouldn't interfere in their lives. The same with welfare. The Repub argument is welfare's restrictions prevent people from seeking work so we should get rid of welfare. How about removing the restrictions? Let people be free on welfare. If they want to live in a group and cut their rent expenses don't cut their benefits. If they want to do a little work under the table, let them.

The problem is the Repubs/Conservatives insist on the restrictions because they don't want people to qualify for benefits. Then, in their miserly, miserable, begrudgingly twisted minds they complain about how the government restrictions, restrictions they insisted upon, are harming people and their solution is to get rid of social programs which was their goal from the very beginning. They design a program with problems built in so they have a ready-made reason to oppose it. That's why the Dems dismissed them when ObamaCare was being discussed. They would have deliberately included conditions they could point to later and say, "See, I told you it wouldn't work."

Neither Paul nor the Repubs give a damn about anyone but themselves. Their reasoning may differ, their plans may differ, but their objective is the same. Help no one.

Nope... I still can't deal with you.... today is no better.

Yes, you've nailed it, Ron Paul is running for the GOP nomination, acting like a total pinhead liberal moron, because he doesn't give a shit about people... but then, such is the case with ALL people on the right, we HATE people, we are RACISTS, we revel in watching people suffer and die! How did you ever get to be so fucking brilliant, apple? [/sarcasm]

 

[apple0154]

Paul's viewpoint has nothing to do with conservative or liberal. His is an untenable position we can't afford to ever take on the world stage. I don't care if you agree with that or not, it's a fact of life. The world is like a great big schoolyard, and there are indeed 'bullies' in the yard, we can choose to stand up to them or we can cower and get our asses kicked, those are our choices. There is not a choice to ignore them and not pay any attention to them, they won't allow that... haven't you ever been around bullies before? They will pick and antagonize until we have to do something... we can either stand up to them or run away like cowards. Unless you think we should run away like cowards, it's best we have the strongest offensive weapons to confront them with, and that requires spending money on a military.

Also, this has nothing to do with going to war with countries who "piss us off." I know that liberal mush-brains like yourself, have to tell yourself this is what has happened, and this is the case, but that is just plain not true. Do the police arrest people because those people pissed them off? Or is it because those people may have violated the law? Well, such is the case with the US and war, we go to war when other countries are in violation of international law. In most cases, war is absolutely not necessary, all they have to do is comply with the law. Now if the police are trying to make an arrest, and the perp begins firing shots at the police, is it the police who are at fault for that, or does it mean the police are mad at the perp when they start returning fire? Of course not, you're not so retarded as to believe that to be the case, I am sure... so you can understand, when we fire missiles and drop bombs, it has nothing to do with our personal feelings, it's just how war is waged.

Sometimes I wish I were so simple-minded I could be a liberal. Really, I do! If I could wash away the decades of history I've learned, and forget about the millions of Americans who fought and died for freedom and democracy, and cling to some Utopian fantasy that the world can live in peace and harmony, and everyone can love each other... It would be nice to be able to do that, but I can't. I understand there are times when the US military has been the only power to save the world from certain doom, or at least something so reprehensible we can't comprehend. This has been the case a few times, actually. As you can see, when we entertain the silly notions of Utopian liberals and Ron Paul, we could very easily end up with a military incapable of confronting the next threat.

Let's be clear on this, conservative or liberal makes absolutely NO difference if we lose our freedom and democracy. If we allow the world around us to collapse in chaos, then we will have to face the consequences. Freedom and democracy known in America for 250 years is not some game we can't lose, which is guaranteed to always exist regardless of what we do. You emotive doves don't seem to realize this, you just take for granted that nothing could ever change things. Our military superiority is what guarantees our freedoms and way of life are protected. I kind a think that is a big deal.

Do yourself a favor and watch this video. I'm no Ron Paul supporter, however, he did call this one correctly.

Let's be clear here. People make mistakes. Usually the people who make mistakes are quietly, or otherwise, removed from the scene. For example, an employee may be demoted or fired. Now look at the Republican party. The same people who made the mistakes about Iraq are still in positions in the Repub Party. For example, McCain coming out and supporting Romney. If you watch the video I posted you'll hear McCain's views. Obviously, there were wrong. Very wrong. But McCain is still high enough or important enough in the Repub Party to be a guy whose endorsement is valued.

Do you understand my point? The same people who made the huge blunders are still in position or hold power within the Repub Party. The faces have changed but the power remains. Whether it's Romney or Perry or Santorum or Gingrich the people behind the face are the same people who threw the country into 10 years of war. The same people are still there. The same people have influence. A lot of influence. That's why McCain is on stage. That's why Cheney is on TV talking about the Repub Party. Nothing has changed behind the scenes. If there had been changes we wouldn't see those folks supporting the Repub Party.

The same poeple who screwed the country for 10 years are still there and a Repub vote is a vote for them.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

You sound like Newt Gingrich... I wanted to serve but couldent... Waaaaa! If that story makes you feel like less of a chicken hawk stick with it...!

You havent met a war you were not all for. If you could still do it all over again, you would redo the Iraq war, which clearly was unjustified. If you understood how bad war is, if you had served in a way, you would never have supported the paper thin reasoning to go into Iraq, but then again you liked the way the guy who took us there looked in bluejeans.

And I don't know who you sound like... maybe some punk who never served being a total and absolute hypocrite and jerk? If I wanted to tell a story to feel something, why wouldn't I tell you that I was a five star general? Are you such a fucktard that you think this is the best "story" I could come up with? Because, believe me, I could come up with a much better story.

I did indeed want to serve, not to be GI Joe or patriotic, but so I could pay for school. Now, if I just wanted to tell a story to make myself feel better, I would change that part to wanting to be noble and courageous and do something to serve my nation... but I clearly didn't take that path, I admitted the truth, that I was only seeking a cheap way out for school. Surely you aren't so retarded as to think that I am telling this story to make myself feel better.. but maybe you are that retarded?

As for wars, I didn't like the one the Democrats got us in back in the 60s. Democrats are fairly incompetent when it comes to war. You're right, I would have loved to have a do-over on Iraq, I think we should have leveled his palaces on Sept. 12, 2001, before we ever went to Afghanistan, and without UN permissions or mentioning a word to the press. I would have called it, Shock and NAWWW! Saddam would have been dead on 9/12/01, and we could have moved on to Afghanistan and the Taliban. Within a week, I would have had that entire region BEGGING the US to please stop.... instead of dancing in the street praising Allah. Yep, If I had been in charge, the Hell and Fury of our Armed Forces would have been felt, and I doubt there would have been a need for a war.

And again, George W. Bush doesn't appeal to me, whether in bluejeans or not. I realize being the queer you are, it's natural for you to just go there automatically, but we're not all perverted like that. What I said was, I like the way Bush is comfortable doing interviews in bluejeans... you translated that into something homoerotic and sexual, because you are sexual pervert. Just so everyone here knows and understand that.

 

[apple0154]

Nope... I still can't deal with you.... today is no better.

Yes, you've nailed it, Ron Paul is running for the GOP nomination, acting like a total pinhead liberal moron, because he doesn't give a shit about people... but then, such is the case with ALL people on the right, we HATE people, we are RACISTS, we revel in watching people suffer and die! How did you ever get to be so fucking brilliant, apple? [/sarcasm]

My Mamma told me I was special.

Oh, well. If you won't play I'll go to the reno store and get a few things. I'm building a bookcase for my Sweety. The door will incorporate a window from the 1920s off one of my old buildings. It will add a little character and you know how much I like characters. (Winter project and seeing my workshop is off the garage I get to be close to my MG and make plans for summer cruising with the roof down. I feel sorry for the little car. Stuck in the garage. No sunlight. It's truly heartbreaking.)

On a more upbeat note Happy Friday, the 13th!

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Do yourself a favor and watch this video. I'm no Ron Paul supporter, however, he did call this one correctly.

Let's be clear here. People make mistakes. Usually the people who make mistakes are quietly, or otherwise, removed from the scene. For example, an employee may be demoted or fired. Now look at the Republican party. The same people who made the mistakes about Iraq are still in positions in the Repub Party. For example, McCain coming out and supporting Romney. If you watch the video I posted you'll hear McCain's views. Obviously, there were wrong. Very wrong. But McCain is still high enough or important enough in the Repub Party to be a guy whose endorsement is valued.

Do you understand my point? The same people who made the huge blunders are still in position or hold power within the Repub Party. The faces have changed but the power remains. Whether it's Romney or Perry or Santorum or Gingrich the people behind the face are the same people who threw the country into 10 years of war. The same people are still there. The same people have influence. A lot of influence. That's why McCain is on stage. That's why Cheney is on TV talking about the Repub Party. Nothing has changed behind the scenes. If there had been changes we wouldn't see those folks supporting the Repub Party.

The same poeple who screwed the country for 10 years are still there and a Repub vote is a vote for them.

Shut the fuck up, you are attracting flies!

 

[apple0154]

Shut the fuck up, you are attracting flies!

Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say Repub supporters are flies but bringing this to their attention is my intention. The same war-mongering, incompetent people are infesting the Repub Party. The bacteria, if you will, is still present. The disease is in submission but it hasn't been cured. A vote for the Repubs can be likened to stopping anti-biotics at a crucial time. A flare-up is almost guaranteed. An aggressive treatment incorporating 4 more years of Obama and the Dems should bring the malady under control and possibly eradicate the most vile of germs either through natural aging or illness.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say Repub supporters are flies but bringing this to their attention is my intention. The same war-mongering, incompetent people are infesting the Repub Party. The bacteria, if you will, is still present. The disease is in submission but it hasn't been cured. A vote for the Repubs can be likened to stopping anti-biotics at a crucial time. A flare-up is almost guaranteed. An aggressive treatment incorporating 4 more years of Obama and the Dems should bring the malady under control and possibly eradicate the most vile of germs either through natural aging or illness.

Thank you Dr. Apple! Your diagnosis is impeccable! Of course republicans want to cut off antibiotics, we hate people and want them all to die, don't you remember? That's why we are so opposed to ObamaCare! It's better for people to just die, it's cheaper and it gets us the result we want anyway, since we want people to die. What I'd like to figure out, is how to get rid of a cockroach like you?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

What I'd like to figure out, is how to get rid of a cockroach like you?

isn't that covered in cutting off the antibiotics?......

 

[apple0154]

Thank you Dr. Apple! Your diagnosis is impeccable! Of course republicans want to cut off antibiotics, we hate people and want them all to die, don't you remember? That's why we are so opposed to ObamaCare! It's better for people to just die, it's cheaper and it gets us the result we want anyway, since we want people to die. What I'd like to figure out, is how to get rid of a cockroach like you?

Cockroach like me? You've obviously mistaken me for a right wing Republican.

* Cockroaches have 2 autonomous brains - one in their head and one in their tail. (That would explain the typical Repub switching positions depending on the audience.)

* Males use hooks to clamp onto the female when mating - once connected, an unbreakable bond is formed between the two animals. (That’s probably where the statement, “I’ve never been inappropriate” originated.)

* Cockroaches break wind every 15 minutes and continue to release methane for 18 hours after death. Insect flatulence accounts for 20% of all methane emissions on earth, placing cockroaches among the biggest contributors to global warming. (Finally, the real reason the right wing strenuously deny global warming.)
http://flatrock.org.nz/topics/intellect_and_entertain/la_cucarachas.htm

 

[Airstrip One]

Cockroaches support government-subsidized housing, so they must be left-wing Democrats.

 

[Jarod]

And I don't know who you sound like... maybe some punk who never served being a total and absolute hypocrite and jerk? If I wanted to tell a story to feel something, why wouldn't I tell you that I was a five star general? Are you such a fucktard that you think this is the best "story" I could come up with? Because, believe me, I could come up with a much better story.

I did indeed want to serve, not to be GI Joe or patriotic, but so I could pay for school. Now, if I just wanted to tell a story to make myself feel better, I would change that part to wanting to be noble and courageous and do something to serve my nation... but I clearly didn't take that path, I admitted the truth, that I was only seeking a cheap way out for school. Surely you aren't so retarded as to think that I am telling this story to make myself feel better.. but maybe you are that retarded?

As for wars, I didn't like the one the Democrats got us in back in the 60s. Democrats are fairly incompetent when it comes to war. You're right, I would have loved to have a do-over on Iraq, I think we should have leveled his palaces on Sept. 12, 2001, before we ever went to Afghanistan, and without UN permissions or mentioning a word to the press. I would have called it, Shock and NAWWW! Saddam would have been dead on 9/12/01, and we could have moved on to Afghanistan and the Taliban. Within a week, I would have had that entire region BEGGING the US to please stop.... instead of dancing in the street praising Allah. Yep, If I had been in charge, the Hell and Fury of our Armed Forces would have been felt, and I doubt there would have been a need for a war.

And again, George W. Bush doesn't appeal to me, whether in bluejeans or not. I realize being the queer you are, it's natural for you to just go there automatically, but we're not all perverted like that. What I said was, I like the way Bush is comfortable doing interviews in bluejeans... you translated that into something homoerotic and sexual, because you are sexual pervert. Just so everyone here knows and understand that.

I really do enjoy getting your goat!

What did Saddam have to do with 09-11?

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

I really do enjoy getting your goat!

What did Saddam have to do with 09-11?

He may have had everything to do with 9/11, can you prove otherwise?

We know for a fact he was involved in the 1995 attack on the WTC. Regardless of his direct (or indirect) involvement in 9/11, Saddam was a liability. This is why he would have been taken care of on 9/12/01, without fanfare, without UN permission, without announcement, without ultimatums and warnings. Had that been the course dumbass Bush took, you pinhead morons wouldn't have had time to work up an emotive bleat, it would have all been over before you could have made the first protest sign. It's the fact that Bush spent all that time, dicking around with Powell and the UN, trying to jump through liberal nitwit hoops and keep you happy (an impossible task from the start), which led to you STILL getting mileage out of this, STILL yammering nonsense! If Saddam Hussein had died on 9/12/01, in a surprise covert military strike, it would have been totally forgotten about in a week, and you probably wouldn't even remember his name.

 

[Jarod]

Silly argument.

Tom Hanks may have had everything to do with 9/11, can you prove otherwise?

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Silly argument.

Tom Hanks may have had everything to do with 9/11, can you prove otherwise?

It's silly if you're talking about Tom Hanks, I agree... Tom had nothing to do with the '95 attack, and wasn't a known sponsor of terrorists. There is no reason to be suspicious of Tom Hanks, but that wasn't the case with Saddam Hussein. As I said, he would have been out of the picture on Day One, following 9/11, and you left-wing fruitcakes would have had NOTHING to moan and writhe about. No war, no need for occupation, no continued collateral damage, it's all handled neatly and efficiently in one swift attack, and the world is rid of Saddam Hussein and his sons. That's what we SHOULD have done! Bush fucked up.