I Guess It's Over

IBDaMann

IBDaMann

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What's the point? All the polls say Kamala is going to win, and there isn't enough time for Trump to catch up. It can't be that ALL the polls are in the tank for Kamala, right? I guess they aren't really giving Trump ovations wherever he goes. Kamala must be who everyone in this country wants to win in four weeks.

According to a new NBC News poll, Harris has a 5-point lead over former President Donald Trump among registered voters, 49% to 44%.

A national Times/Siena poll found Kamala Harris with a slim lead over Donald J. Trump.

The Hill:

Oct 4 – 7 Ipsos/Reuters +2 Harris
Harris 50.0%
Trump 48.0%

Oct 4 – 6 Morning Consult +5 Harris
Harris 51.0%
Trump 46.0%

Oct 4 – 6 Research Co. +5 Harris
Harris 52.0%
Trump 47.0%

I deleted the details of the following national polls because they really weren't necessary. Trump managed a tie in two of them.

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This one is already decided, right?
 
IBDaMann said:
What's the point? All the polls say Kamala is going to win, and there isn't enough time for Trump to catch up. It can't be that ALL the polls are in the tank for Kamala, right? I guess they aren't really giving Trump ovations wherever he goes. Kamala must be who everyone in this country wants to win in four weeks.

According to a new NBC News poll, Harris has a 5-point lead over former President Donald Trump among registered voters, 49% to 44%.

A national Times/Siena poll found Kamala Harris with a slim lead over Donald J. Trump.

The Hill:

Oct 4 – 7 Ipsos/Reuters +2 Harris
Harris 50.0%
Trump 48.0%

Oct 4 – 6 Morning Consult +5 Harris
Harris 51.0%
Trump 46.0%

Oct 4 – 6 Research Co. +5 Harris
Harris 52.0%
Trump 47.0%

I deleted the details of the following national polls because they really weren't necessary. Trump managed a tie in two of them.

Harris51%Trump49%
Harris50%Trump48%
Harris48%Trump47%
Harris47%Trump45%
Harris46%Trump43%
Harris42%Trump38%
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Harris45%Trump42%
Harris49%Trump46%
Harris50%Trump47%
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Harris50%Trump45%
Harris49%Trump49%Even
Harris51%Trump49%

This one is already decided, right?
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Wow.... what a joke....

What's funny is that you'll also see many of these same "polling firms" (aka DNC press) simultaneously release other related "polls" (since they supposedly ask all sorts of questions within the same "sampling of voters") that just don't make any sense whatsoever when taken together.

For instance, a particular "polling firm" will make the claim that Harris is "leading by three points nationally" while simultaneously making the claim that Harris is "down roughly 10 points from the 2020 results in both California & New York". Remember, Biden's officially declared "popular vote result" (as it's commonly called) was "up by 4.4 points." Such shifts in just those two "states" ALONE render a supposed "Harris +3 nationally" result to be nonsensical.
 
IBDaMann said:
What's the point? All the polls say Kamala is going to win, and there isn't enough time for Trump to catch up. It can't be that ALL the polls are in the tank for Kamala, right? I guess they aren't really giving Trump ovations wherever he goes. Kamala must be who everyone in this country wants to win in four weeks.

According to a new NBC News poll, Harris has a 5-point lead over former President Donald Trump among registered voters, 49% to 44%.

A national Times/Siena poll found Kamala Harris with a slim lead over Donald J. Trump.

The Hill:

Oct 4 – 7 Ipsos/Reuters +2 Harris
Harris 50.0%
Trump 48.0%

Oct 4 – 6 Morning Consult +5 Harris
Harris 51.0%
Trump 46.0%

Oct 4 – 6 Research Co. +5 Harris
Harris 52.0%
Trump 47.0%

I deleted the details of the following national polls because they really weren't necessary. Trump managed a tie in two of them.

Harris51%Trump49%
Harris50%Trump48%
Harris48%Trump47%
Harris47%Trump45%
Harris46%Trump43%
Harris42%Trump38%
Harris48%Trump46%
Harris49%Trump45%
Harris51%Trump46%
Harris47%Trump44%
Harris49%Trump46%
Harris48%Trump47%
Harris48%Trump46%
Harris47%Trump47%Even
Harris46%Trump45%
Harris48%Trump45%
Harris49%Trump46%
Harris50%Trump46%
Harris49%Trump45%
Harris45%Trump42%
Harris49%Trump46%
Harris50%Trump47%
Harris47%Trump45%
Harris50%Trump45%
Harris49%Trump49%Even
Harris51%Trump49%

This one is already decided, right?
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Ah, national polls, and just like the popular vote, they are meaningless

Election is a toss up, your view of polls is inane, besides, according to you Trumpkins, Trump has already won, in your bubble, he can only lose if the election is fixed, so if anyone is judging the election “already decided” it is you and the cult
 
gfm7175 said:
Wow.... what a joke....

What's funny is that you'll also see many of these same "polling firms" (aka DNC press) simultaneously release other related "polls" (since they supposedly ask all sorts of questions within the same "sampling of voters") that just don't make any sense whatsoever when taken together.

For instance, a particular "polling firm" will make the claim that Harris is "leading by three points nationally" while simultaneously making the claim that Harris is "down roughly 10 points from the 2020 results in both California & New York". Remember, Biden's officially declared "popular vote result" (as it's commonly called) was "up by 4.4 points." Such shifts in just those two "states" ALONE render a supposed "Harris +3 nationally" result to be nonsensical.
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Little lesson on polls, wait a day, and there will be another poll, and another after that, etc, etc, etc, wait long enough and anyone can find some poll to support nearly whatever position they want to believe
 
IBDaMann said:
What's the point? All the polls say Kamala is going to win, and there isn't enough time for Trump to catch up. It can't be that ALL the polls are in the tank for Kamala, right? I guess they aren't really giving Trump ovations wherever he goes. Kamala must be who everyone in this country wants to win in four weeks.

According to a new NBC News poll, Harris has a 5-point lead over former President Donald Trump among registered voters, 49% to 44%.

A national Times/Siena poll found Kamala Harris with a slim lead over Donald J. Trump.

The Hill:

Oct 4 – 7 Ipsos/Reuters +2 Harris
Harris 50.0%
Trump 48.0%

Oct 4 – 6 Morning Consult +5 Harris
Harris 51.0%
Trump 46.0%

Oct 4 – 6 Research Co. +5 Harris
Harris 52.0%
Trump 47.0%

I deleted the details of the following national polls because they really weren't necessary. Trump managed a tie in two of them.

Harris51%Trump49%
Harris50%Trump48%
Harris48%Trump47%
Harris47%Trump45%
Harris46%Trump43%
Harris42%Trump38%
Harris48%Trump46%
Harris49%Trump45%
Harris51%Trump46%
Harris47%Trump44%
Harris49%Trump46%
Harris48%Trump47%
Harris48%Trump46%
Harris47%Trump47%Even
Harris46%Trump45%
Harris48%Trump45%
Harris49%Trump46%
Harris50%Trump46%
Harris49%Trump45%
Harris45%Trump42%
Harris49%Trump46%
Harris50%Trump47%
Harris47%Trump45%
Harris50%Trump45%
Harris49%Trump49%Even
Harris51%Trump49%

This one is already decided, right?
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So you Russians admit you can’t destroy American democracy?
 
archives said:
Little lesson on polls, wait a day, and there will be another poll, and another after that, etc, etc, etc, wait long enough and anyone can find some poll to support nearly whatever position they want to believe
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Little lesson polls, they are selling hope, that is why ALL polls show Kamala as being in the lead when she has no chance. No poll that reveals Trump winning by 20 points is going to "sell" because Trump supporters aren't desperate for hope, i.e. they already have it in spades.

Kamala supporters are demoralized and need a reason to get out of bed in the morning. Polls provide that service, kind of like palm readers.
 
IBDaMann said:
Little lesson polls, they are selling hope, that is why ALL polls show Kamala as being in the lead when she has no chance. No poll that reveals Trump winning by 20 points is going to "sell" because Trump supporters aren't desperate for hope, i.e. they already have it in spades.

Kamala supporters are demoralized and need a reason to get out of bed in the morning. Polls provide that service, kind of like palm readers.
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So bad numbers are always good for Trump and good numbers are always good for Trump, what else is new in demented Trumpy land.
 
archives said:
Election is a toss up
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How do you figure this?

RCP's "no toss up map" (which is based almost exclusively on the most recent leftist propaganda that gets mislabeled as "polling") currently has Trump winning the electoral college 281-257. Remember, this is based on LEFTIST PROPAGANDA.

Now, moving onward from that baseline, "unskewing" the "polls" (if you will).... Wisconsin is notorious for being "difficult to poll" and for "polling to the left of how they vote". If Wisconsin is currently "polling" "Harris +1", then you can bet your ass that the final result will be more like "Trump +4" or greater (as Wisconsin historically votes to the right of Pennsylvania). If those two states go for Trump, then Michigan will as well (as those three states historically "vote together"). That alone essentially shifts the electoral college to the "2016 map".

From there, it depends upon how much election fraud can be thwarted before it happens. It's not at all impossible for Trump to also win Nevada, Virginia, Maine, New Hampshire, and even Minnesota. That would result in a 342-196 CURB STOMPING... However, there's too much election fraud for that to happen. I'd say that a 312-226 "Trump wins" final result would be reasonable (given the existence of election fraud).

Even if Nevada, Wisconsin, and Michigan all get successfully frauded away from Trump, Trump is still up 281-257. Demonkkkrats would still need to successfully steal either Pennsylvania, North Carolina, or Georgia in order to install themselves into power once again. There's a reason why the minds behind Kamala Harris are focusing almost exclusively on PA, NC, and GA. They believe that they have "the Clyburn steal" "in the bag" in WI and MI, so they're focusing much more on those other states.

I'm afraid that "the steal" isn't going to be enough this time around......... Too many eyes are honed in on it. Kamala Harris can't even pull the numbers that Joe Biden pulled in key areas in 2020 (which is what allowed for the steal).

In any event, Demonkkkrats are currently purposely shipping illegals to "swing states" so that they can install a nationwide "one-party rule" like they already did in California since the mid-80s amnesty happened.
 
IBDaMann said:
Little lesson polls, they are selling hope, that is why ALL polls show Kamala as being in the lead when she has no chance. No poll that reveals Trump winning by 20 points is going to "sell" because Trump supporters aren't desperate for hope, i.e. they already have it in spades.

Kamala supporters are demoralized and need a reason to get out of bed in the morning. Polls provide that service, kind of like palm readers.
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IBDaMann said:
Little lesson polls, they are selling hope, that is why ALL polls show Kamala as being in the lead when she has no chance. No poll that reveals Trump winning by 20 points is going to "sell" because Trump supporters aren't desperate for hope, i.e. they already have it in spades.

Kamala supporters are demoralized and need a reason to get out of bed in the morning. Polls provide that service, kind of like palm readers.
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Hope? A three percent lead in a national poll sells hope? Even Harris herself has emphasized she is the underdog

Kinda funny, when Biden was the candidate MAGA posters could wait long enough to copy and paste every poll they’d see showing Trump’s lead, very similar to their giddiness leading up to the 2022 Red Tsunami, and now, you, and they, are dissing polling, going so far as concocting conspiracies
 
IBDaMann said:
Little lesson polls, they are selling hope, that is why ALL polls show Kamala as being in the lead when she has no chance. No poll that reveals Trump winning by 20 points is going to "sell" because Trump supporters aren't desperate for hope, i.e. they already have it in spades.

Kamala supporters are demoralized and need a reason to get out of bed in the morning. Polls provide that service, kind of like palm readers.
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And your proof Trump is way ahead is what?

Nothing but Russian bot hole programming
 
IBDaMann said:
What's the point? All the polls say Kamala is going to win, and there isn't enough time for Trump to catch up. It can't be that ALL the polls are in the tank for Kamala, right? I guess they aren't really giving Trump ovations wherever he goes. Kamala must be who everyone in this country wants to win in four weeks.

According to a new NBC News poll, Harris has a 5-point lead over former President Donald Trump among registered voters, 49% to 44%.

A national Times/Siena poll found Kamala Harris with a slim lead over Donald J. Trump.

The Hill:

Oct 4 – 7 Ipsos/Reuters +2 Harris
Harris 50.0%
Trump 48.0%

Oct 4 – 6 Morning Consult +5 Harris
Harris 51.0%
Trump 46.0%

Oct 4 – 6 Research Co. +5 Harris
Harris 52.0%
Trump 47.0%

I deleted the details of the following national polls because they really weren't necessary. Trump managed a tie in two of them.

Harris51%Trump49%
Harris50%Trump48%
Harris48%Trump47%
Harris47%Trump45%
Harris46%Trump43%
Harris42%Trump38%
Harris48%Trump46%
Harris49%Trump45%
Harris51%Trump46%
Harris47%Trump44%
Harris49%Trump46%
Harris48%Trump47%
Harris48%Trump46%
Harris47%Trump47%Even
Harris46%Trump45%
Harris48%Trump45%
Harris49%Trump46%
Harris50%Trump46%
Harris49%Trump45%
Harris45%Trump42%
Harris49%Trump46%
Harris50%Trump47%
Harris47%Trump45%
Harris50%Trump45%
Harris49%Trump49%Even
Harris51%Trump49%

This one is already decided, right?
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all these polls are lies in fact.

it's actually too big to steal if they put out the real numbers.

but they don't.

repeat the line.

all the polls are fake.

all the polls are fake.

:magagrin:
 
archives said:
Little lesson on polls, wait a day, and there will be another poll, and another after that, etc, etc, etc, wait long enough and anyone can find some poll to support nearly whatever position they want to believe
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Question: Can you provide me with just ONE specific example of a poll EVER finding that Trump was "leading in Wisconsin" by SEVENTEEN POINTS????

I can find one for "Biden leading Trump in Wisconsin" by that same margin. ABC News/Washington Post (10/20/20 - 10/25/20) ... It also claimed a "+- 4%" "margin of error" LMFAOOOOOOOO ... I don't recall Biden "winning Wisconsin" by anywhere near 13 points, let alone 17 points.... :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:

The closest result I could find "in the other direction" in that same "1 month prior to (s)election" time period was a TIE... Yes, a TIE. NOTHING with Trump leading at all, let alone by SEVENTEEN FRIGGIN POINTS.

Average polling had Biden up by 6.7 points... Biden actually only "won" (cheated) by 0.7%. That's a 6 point "swing and a miss" for "polling".
 
gfm7175 said:
How do you figure this?

RCP's "no toss up map" (which is based almost exclusively on the most recent leftist propaganda that gets mislabeled as "polling") currently has Trump winning the electoral college 281-257. Remember, this is based on LEFTIST PROPAGANDA.

Now, moving onward from that baseline, "unskewing" the "polls" (if you will).... Wisconsin is notorious for being "difficult to poll" and for "polling to the left of how they vote". If Wisconsin is currently "polling" "Harris +1", then you can bet your ass that the final result will be more like "Trump +4" or greater (as Wisconsin historically votes to the right of Pennsylvania). If those two states go for Trump, then Michigan will as well (as those three states historically "vote together"). That alone essentially shifts the electoral college to the "2016 map".

From there, it depends upon how much election fraud can be thwarted before it happens. It's not at all impossible for Trump to also win Nevada, Virginia, Maine, New Hampshire, and even Minnesota. That would result in a 342-196 CURB STOMPING... However, there's too much election fraud for that to happen. I'd say that a 312-226 "Trump wins" final result would be reasonable (given the existence of election fraud).

Even if Nevada, Wisconsin, and Michigan all get successfully frauded away from Trump, Trump is still up 281-257. Demonkkkrats would still need to successfully steal either Pennsylvania, North Carolina, or Georgia in order to install themselves into power once again. There's a reason why the minds behind Kamala Harris are focusing almost exclusively on PA, NC, and GA. They believe that they have "the Clyburn steal" "in the bag" in WI and MI, so they're focusing much more on those other states.

I'm afraid that "the steal" isn't going to be enough this time around......... Too many eyes are honed in on it. Kamala Harris can't even pull the numbers that Joe Biden pulled in key areas in 2020 (which is what allowed for the steal).

In any event, Demonkkkrats are currently purposely shipping illegals to "swing states" so that they can install a nationwide "one-party rule" like they already did in California since the mid-80s amnesty happened.
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RCP is based upon leftist propaganda? The Razzy, Fox, Economist, NYP, and WSJ are all included in the RCT averages, and you are telling us RCT is based on leftist propaganda? RCT itself leans right

In the past, Trump support was always undercounted, however, as 2022 showed, those polls have adjusted, perhaps too much

And as I noted previously, you, and the cult are the only ones who have decided the election is over, that Trump won, and your AM radio rhetoric proves it, Trump can’t lose unless he is cheated, impossible.

The shipping immigrants is hysterical, like someone is exporting immigrants to red States or even Purple States, getting them registered, fooling prepared election officials, and setting them up to vote, too funny, even Trump’s hand picked investigation team back in 2018 couldn’t find illegals being allowed to vote in California
 
Kamala Trump said:
all these polls are lies in fact.

it's actually too big to steal if they put out the real numbers.

but they don't.
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So says another poster who fully embraced the polls last Spring

Kinda like the stock market, when Trump was in, if the market did well, the cult loved the market, but now that Trump is out, the market doing historical numbers is meaningless
 
Mr.Badguy said:
So bad numbers are always good for Trump
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You're not too swift on the uptake, I see. Fake polls are irrelevant. They sell hope, not valid information. Trump supporters don't need hope so they don't need fake polls.

You, on the other hand, are a Kamala supporter (via TDS) so you are desperate for hope. Of course, my thread totally bursts your fantasy bubble and robs you of the hope that you are gleaning from the fake polls ... and Trump supporters really don't understand what you're going through.

Mr.Badguy said:
and good numbers are always good for Trump,
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There are no "good numbers" for Trump because none of the fake polls are selling to Trump supporters. They're all selling to where there is demand for hope, and all such demand is in the Kamala pit of despair.

I would recommend you read some of my previous threads on the matter. Just wait until the election is less than three weeks away. Kamala's numbers are going to skyrocket as hope for Trump's defeat becomes more commercialized than Christmas. Fake polls will be having "Black Friday" sales with Kamala climbing as high as 8, 9, even 10 points when absolutely nothing has changed. Fake poll inflation will accelerate faster than Global Warming alarm. Even though I have told you all this in advance, your personal desperation will cause you to be overcome by cognitive dissonance and you will fully buy everything the fake polls are selling.

Then, when Trump wins in a landslide, you will melt like the wicked witch of the west before you make it to your safe space. Your world will be rocked by irreconcilable confusion. You'll wonder how this could have happened, and the DNC will be there to assure you that Russian interference is to blame, and that you were never manipulated like a marionette and milked like a dairy cow.
 
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