I predict that the S&P 500 will be well under 5,000 by September 30th

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I predict that the S&P 500 will be well under 5,000 by September 30th, and I put my money where my mouth is. I have bought a bunch of SPY puts centering around a strike price of $500, all expiring on September 30th. If the S&P goes down to around 4,000, I will make quite a bit of money.

If the S&P 500 stays above 5,000, then you can laugh at me 🙃
 
I predict that the S&P 500 will be well under 5,000 by September 30th, and I put my money where my mouth is. I have bought a bunch of SPY puts centering around a strike price of $500, all expiring on September 30th. If the S&P goes down to around 4,000, I will make quite a bit of money.

If the S&P 500 stays above 5,000, then you can laugh at me 🙃

I'm laughing at you now. Why wait??? lol people can claim anything they want on the innernetz. You will just disappear this sock and babble along in one of your other socks, so who cares?
 
I'm laughing at you now. Why wait??? lol people can claim anything they want on the innernetz. You will just disappear this sock and babble along in one of your other socks, so who cares?
Dear Ms. Edwina, Walt has been using the same account for 5 years. You, OTOH, are the Sock Puppet master, sweetcheeks.

As for the economy, Trump is single-handedly fucking it up while the MAGAt Congress sits on their thumbs.
 
I predict that the S&P 500 will be well under 5,000 by September 30th, and I put my money where my mouth is. I have bought a bunch of SPY puts centering around a strike price of $500, all expiring on September 30th. If the S&P goes down to around 4,000, I will make quite a bit of money.

If the S&P 500 stays above 5,000, then you can laugh at me 🙃
Billionaire oligarchs have been selling their holdings for close to a year. Warren Buffett sold over $143 billion worth of stocks in 2024. That should tell us the S&P is in trouble.
 
Billionaire oligarchs have been selling their holdings for close to a year. Warren Buffett sold over $143 billion worth of stocks in 2024. That should tell us the S&P is in trouble.
yes. the lies are evaporating.

everything is overvalued.

you know this.

:evilnod:

mr. buy and hold is quietly selling.

fuck that guy.
 
everything is overvalued.

Not everything, some of the small and mid-caps are under priced actually, and much better buys than playing musical chairs with Amazon and Apple and Nvidia, but the Big Seven certainly are, and they're sucking money up like a vacuum cleaner, ridiculous P/E ratios. there are a few solid buys out there with low better than average P/E ratios and revenues, and higher than average volatility as the options traders go back and forth; I've picked up some decent bargains the last few weeks. I'm at the point where my main account is nearly solid and could care less about the price fluctuations now, and only have a small cash position left to play with, less than 3% of that account.

Just 7 companies make up over 25% of the markets, and another 20 or so make up another 20%-25%, so they have a large influence; they don't reflect the real economy at all, so I pay little attention to the averages; they're just that, averages.
 
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Not everything, some of the small and mid-caps are under priced actually, and much better buys than playing musical chairs with Amazon and Apple and Nvidia, but the Big Seven certainly are, and they're sucking money up like a vacuum cleaner, ridiculous P/E ratios. there are a few solid buys out there with low better than average P/E ratios and revenues, and higher than average volatility as the options traders go back and forth; I've picked up some decent bargains the last few weeks. I'm at the point where my main account is nearly solid and could care less about the price fluctuations now, and only have a small cash position left to play with, less than 3% of that account.

Just 7 companies make up over 25% of the markets, and another 20 or so make up another 20%-25%, so they have a large influence; they don't reflect the real economy at all, so I pay little attention to the averages; they're just that, averages.
well...actually....sffu nerd.
 
Billionaire oligarchs have been selling their holdings for close to a year. Warren Buffett sold over $143 billion worth of stocks in 2024. That should tell us the S&P is in trouble.
A lot of people are being forced to sell their stocks in margin calls. That is bad, because it does not matter how low the price goes, they have to sell.
 
A lot of people are being forced to sell their stocks in margin calls. That is bad, because it does not matter how low the price goes, they have to sell.
A 401k can't trade on margin. In 2008-09 workers lost 1/3 of their retirement.
 
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