I think children should recite this ever day in class... "voluntarily"

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FUCK THE POLICE

911 EVERY DAY
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
forward into battle see his banners go!

Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.
 
Cristians (followers of Christ) marching off to war is an oxymoron kind of thing...
Butt then Jesus was such a warmonger....

Umm if children were not programmed in religion when young religion would fall to a small percentage fo what it is now. Gotta program em young, as the scripture says...
 
I was one of those kids who voluntarily opted out of the line "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance when I was in elementary school. This was in California, in the 1960's, to put it in perspective. I was made to stand up in front of the class and humiliated by two different teachers and, not surprisingly, I submit, beaten up by older children in both instances.

Is this relevant? I think it is.

Hymns and Pledges of this kind are designed to incite nationalism and jingoism. They have no legitimate place in the lives of children, in a perfect world anyway.
 
I had a friend try that once and the math teacher practically yelled at him. It was really a sight.

It's not much of a "choice." Sorry.
 
DonQuixote said:
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neither do i

it is up there with kill for your god
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Right. As long as you don't read all of the lyrics and thus put them in context you can assume that is what it means.

Verse two:
2. At the sign of triumph Satan's host doth flee;
on then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
(Refrain)

(That "praise" thing surely gives visions of awesome weapons).

And then verse three:

3. Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
one in hope and doctrine, one in charity.
(Refrain)

(That portion about "Charity" really makes me think of human warfare...)

Then four:

4. Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane,
but the church of Jesus constant will remain.
Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail;
we have Christ's own promise, and that cannot fail.
(Refrain)

(You can tell here that they are talking about themselves causing this... right.)

:rolleyes:
 
OrnotBitwise said:
I was one of those kids who voluntarily opted out of the line "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance when I was in elementary school. This was in California, in the 1960's, to put it in perspective. I was made to stand up in front of the class and humiliated by two different teachers and, not surprisingly, I submit, beaten up by older children in both instances.

Is this relevant? I think it is.

Hymns and Pledges of this kind are designed to incite nationalism and jingoism. They have no legitimate place in the lives of children, in a perfect world anyway.
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ob

yes, we must all be differently alike
 
Damocles said:
Right. As long as you don't read all of the lyrics and thus put them in context you can assume that is what it means.

Verse two:
2. At the sign of triumph Satan's host doth flee;
on then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
(Refrain)

(That "praise" thing surely gives visions of awesome weapons).

And then verse three:

3. Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
one in hope and doctrine, one in charity.
(Refrain)

(That portion about "Charity" really makes me think of human warfare...)

Then four:

4. Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane,
but the church of Jesus constant will remain.
Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail;
we have Christ's own promise, and that cannot fail.
(Refrain)

(You can tell here that they are talking about themselves causing this... right.)

:rolleyes:
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yep, my god can kick your god's ass anytime
 
OrnotBitwise said:
Hymns and Pledges of this kind are designed to incite nationalism and jingoism. They have no legitimate place in the lives of children, in a perfect world anyway.
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But in the actual world, individuals who ABANDON national loyalties will be mashed under the treads of those use their nationalistic pride, warranted or not, as a network of allegiances and source of individual power.
 
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