]I voted in our local school board election yesterday and had to "flash" my driver's license to a lady I've known for 40 years. I flashed it, we all laughed about it, and I cast my vote. I have mixed feelings about voter ID laws.
I voted yesterday
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How many times did you vote?
FTFY
Only once yesterday. I felt that was sufficient. I have seen elections where I'd like to have voted 10 or 15 times. But I digress. Oh, and I hate to say that I don't completely agree with Yoda. Say that before I never have.
Billy the Great Khan
Uwaa OmO
If you're going to require an I.D. to exercise some rights, why not others?
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Ahh yes....voter ID laws....a solution in search of a problem.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Oh I don't think there's any question that Yoda is right. There is no data...absolutely none...showing that voter fraud is an even remotely significant problem.
To underscore the hypocrisy of voter ID laws. I almost always vote by mail in ballot where my signature and the last four digits of my SS# are more than adequate to assure your ID. Why didn't I have to show a photo ID for my mail in ballot? Prior to the voter ID law in my State I only had to verify my address and signature at my precinct. Since it would be virtually impossible to counterfit that in mass why is the photo ID required? I's pretty difficult to forge someones signature and damned easy to verify a persons signature and address? So why the additional requirement of a photo ID?
Then there's the fact that there is absolutely no data supporting any significant voter fraud. I think in the last Presidential election there were like a dozen cases of inappropriate votes and most of those were not people misidentifying themselves.
Then there's the fact that the demographics most likely not have photo ID's, mainly students and minorities just happen to coincidentally be a democratic demographic.
So then why the need for voter ID laws? Well since only one party is significantly in favor for them, that there is little evidence of significant voter fraud and that the laws target demographics of the other political party and since I'm a firm believer in Occam's Razor I think that the obvious answer is that it's an attempt by one political party to repress voting by another parties demographic.
Billy the Great Khan
Uwaa OmO
Sure you wanna thank my post Mott?
evince
Truthmatters
It is designed to keep poor people from voting.
If you know the FACTS you should HATE the idea
if you love democracy and this country
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The Almighty
But did you CHEAT? I mean, we all know you want to be a Rep and thus you should CHEAT to show you are a part of the party.
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The Almighty
funny... but given everything that people need ID's for in life... you would think liberals would be fighting to make sure everyone HAD an ID. Instead, decade after decade they just whine that it might affect their voters if ID laws were implemented. In other words, the Dems only care about the people without ID's for their votes. They could care less what else happens in these peoples lives.
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The Almighty
So you support people being asked for the last four of their SS? You understand of course, that would be ID'ing people?
DEMOCRAT
State Sen. Roderick D. Wright was convicted of eight felonies, including five counts of fraudulent voting, two counts of perjury and one count of filing a false declaration of candidacy.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/commentary/la-oe-knight-legislator-felon-20140214,0,147222.story#ixzz2tJBQZqe0
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
I hit thanks? Oh hell I meant to hit groan!!!! LOL
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
So is giving your address and/or your signature. My point being you can confirm your ID without a photo ID and that GOP lead photo ID legislation doesn't meet the smell test as there is no significant problem with voter fraud. Why does the GOP feel the need to solve a non-existant problem?
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Well that may be their real intent but to be honest with you Desh it isn't exactly working for them either. The GOP may have invented a solution to a problem that doesn't exist but it looks like they haven't stopped to many people from voting either so I'm not particularly alarmed by it either.
I think that it's mostly funny that the GOP is dancing on the head of a dime trying to convince people why these laws are needed despite the fact that everyoe knows what they're actual intent is. What really makes it funny is that it's evidence that they're still stuck in a mid 20th century paradigm when they would probably be better off focusing on the digital divide between the GOP and Democrats that Democrats have been exploiting far more effectively than the GOP in regards to voter drive efforts.
The GOP had a good run from about 1985 to 2005 using a combination of cable tv and talk radio and traditional snail mail for their get out the vote efforts but in the last ten years Democrats have been cleaning their clocks by more effectively using digital technology to base their vote drive strategies on. The GOP has some catching up to do in the new media as it is a more powerful and cost affective method than TV and Radio and direct mailing efforts that are the GOP's standard strategies.