“I will never accept any decisions between the United States and Russia about Ukraine, never" - Zelenskyy

Althea said:
Nor should he. trump just surrendered all of the property and belongings from the Russian oligarchs that has been seized. Putin and trump are one and the same.

The E.U recognizes this, and is actively moving toward protecting Ukraine without the U.S.

trump is the enemy of Ukraine.
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Europe is impotent.....that is to say irrelevant.
 
Nordberg said:
Trump made him an offer he cannot refuse. He will give all the land Russia stole from Ukraine to Pitin and give the rare earth minerals to Trump. How could you find a better deal?
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Most of the rare earths already belong to Russia.

The winners of wars dictate terms, not the losers.
 
The capitulation of NATO must happen while there is still enough of a rump of Ukraine to be viable....till then the Russians will continue to do what they are doing.....they assure us that Western terrorism will not change this, it will only further drive the world to hate America.

If there is no viable rump the Russians suggest it be carved up by the likes of Poland...they have no desire to rule the rabid racist Russians haters in the West.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The Russians have been the Good Guys here....America has been foolish and Evil.
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Russia invaded a sovereign nation - a land grab, which most thought our species had evolved beyond. In the process, many civilians were killed, and many more were made refugees.

That ain't "good guys." Putin is a mass murderer. He's no better or more "good" than Stalin, Hitler or Pol Pot.
 
BartenderElite said:
Russia invaded a sovereign nation - a land grab, which most thought our species had evolved beyond. In the process, many civilians were killed, and many more were made refugees.

That ain't "good guys." Putin is a mass murderer. He's no better or more "good" than Stalin, Hitler or Pol Pot.
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The Russians never had any interest in Ukrainian lands, this is about protecting Russia against Western aggression and protecting the Russian speakers in what was Ukraine.

The brainwashings worked on you.
 
The Europeans dont have the money, the troops, or the military gear to run this war against Russia if America drops out. Any attempt will simply speed the collapse of Europe and the end of NATO.

They can be ignored.
 
Lavrov has said yet again that the 4 Oblosts that the Russians have claimed and most occupy are Russian, any discussion of the matter is off the table.
 
To all who have no idea: The Brainwashing programs have long been military grade.....this however does not now absolve you of responsibility for your refusal to learn.
 
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