Illegals and the economy

[Into the Night]

LOL

You have control over all 3 branches of government and things are falling apart all around us.

It takes 60% of the Senate to pass the CR. Democrats are still voting against opening the government.

Militarization of police.

Police ARE military, Dumber. They always were. Don't attack them, and you won't get arrested.

ICE abuses.

ICE is military, Dumber. They always were. Don't attack them, and you won't get arrested.

Political prosecution.

Why do you Democrats keep trying this?

Food prices increasing.

The price of eggs is down. The price is beef is down. The price of chicken is down. While not food, the price of fuel is also down.

Tariffs on a temper tantrum.

Canada is doing just that. Why do you support Canada's actions?

SNAP halted.

DEMOCRATS.

Retribution on blue cities.

Good. You lawbreakers need to be all arrested and convicted.

Ignorant fucking cultist

Try English. It works better.

 

[Into the Night]

Everything I read said the opposite of long term vs short term effects. That illegals may create a short term local problem, but their presence is a long term boon to the economy.

Illegal aliens are not a boon to any economy. They are criminals. They are immediately subject to deportation.

 

[Into the Night]

Nope. The consensus is that illegals will work for far less than the fair market rate, driving down wages for all citizens.

Democrats want their slaves, even if they have to import them.

 

[Into the Night]

I agree completely but I don't believe the answer in the meantime is to just allow anyone and everyone over the border. We could grant temporary work passes to legit people as you say, who want to work and have veritable addresses and sponsors.

Dumber is trying to justify illegal aliens as legit aliens.
Illegal aliens are not eligible for asylum or citizenship. They are immediately subject to deportation.

He is also trying to justify importing gang members and other criminals. He wants the illegal drugs to flow freely. He supports organized crime.

He is also trying to justify insurrection, rioting, violence, arson, and looting.

 

[Diogenes]

Are you that ignorant?

He is.

 

[Into the Night]

you live in a bubble as if your party has never been in charge for the last 60 years and implemented policy that we still live with. Are you that ignorant?

No, but he is doing what Democrats do...deny, deny, deny.

 

[IBDaMann]

Democrats want their slaves, even if they have to import them.

Yes, but I have to acknowledge that far too many Republicans/conservatives have been on that side of the fence as well (including Marco Rubio who has apparently reversed course with Trump).

Democrats want their totally dependent voters, slaves in the worst sense, and were counting on ushering in so many illegals and giving them the ability to vote that Democrats would never lose another election ever again. I am so glad that Trump put the kabosh on that. Go ICE.

 

[Hume]

This morning, I did a little digging on the impact of undocumented immigrants and the economy. The consensus seems to be that they are not a drag on the economy. Quite the opposite. They are a net positive on their contribution to the economy. Or at least a push. Hard to find a solid number, so the estimates vary.

So, what’s the fucking problem? Why do we want to build huge detention centers to pull these people out of the workforce?

Oh, that’s right. To the fascist cultists, undocumenteds are the “them”. The enemy. The source of all our woes.

Then why have immigration laws?

 

[domer76]

Then why have immigration laws?

Look man, a first time offense is a misdemeanor and usually handled as a civil offense. Most of these people are here to escape really shitty and life threatening situations at home and are otherwise law abiding and working. And have families. All the information I can find says they’re a net positive for the economy.

So, I’ll reverse the question. What’s the point of constructing all these detention facilities to house these people and remove them from the economy? What’s the point of the abusive ICE raids we’re seeing almost daily? The abuse of due process

Enforce the immigration laws to their max when one of these people commits a real crime. Target employers, not employees. Target the fucks who traffic in these immigrants.

 

[Hume]

Most of these people are here to escape really shitty and life threatening situations at home

I am pretty sure this is false.

 

[domer76]

I am pretty sure this is false.

Then you tell me why they come here rather than stay in their utopia.

 

[Hume]

Then you tell me why they come here rather than stay in their utopia.

I really do not know. But they have not applied for special status.

 

[Nordberg]

Then why have immigration laws?

Because the politics of hatred work on many voters.
In fact, Americans are having fewer children. We need immigration to grow. Our economy needs the workers and the new businesses.