I'm not liking this at all........

Yes, as long as the Iranian demands are met.
....and it's still closed. Iran isn't happy and Trump can't seem to please them.

I'm curious if Trump will roll the dice on having his international assets seized if he's declared a war criminal.
 
SO MUCH FOR STONEY BALONEY'S PREDICTIONS.

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My favorite will always be the "Red Wave!" LOL

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But the strait will be open. No CLAIMING at all.....its a good deal.
Sure open at Irans option as long as you meet their conditions and if that involves a toll on certain countries, you pay it.

Even Trump is not denying it and is only saying maybe the US will get it in on it and split the payments via a "Joint Venture" because like any good mob boss he sees it is a great deal and money maker for Iran and his first instinct is not to try and end it but rather to get a cut.


Trump says he’s considering ‘joint venture’ with Iran for Strait of Hormuz tolls

 
Iranians have a card to play, and they will play that card. It is just life.

It is worse than that imo.

All smart smaller nations now with any strategic choke point location access can now see via this war (and Ukraine prior) that is simply makes no sense to build up big and expensive conventional military force in an attempt to 'show force' that would deter a greater power from attacking.

Instead build up massive drone capabilities, at a fraction of the cost, that can be hidden, moved and threaten and shut down down key infrastructure threatening world wide economic chaos. And make the conventional army try to shoot them all down requiring multiples more of the much more expensive munitions.

Iran could threaten the two key straits in the area, which would cause world wide economic damage far beyond just threatening one of the other individually.


Trump faces new oil shock threat as Iran eyes second strait - Bab el-Mandeb Strait

"..The strait is a critical shipping route for many global products, including electronics, clothing, furniture, household goods and food supplies like wheat, corn and coffee. It connects markets in Africa, Europe and Asia including the Middle East....

“... even to do so in a pretty small way, fire a couple missiles, fire a couple drones — then offloading tankers becomes impossible, and this goes from a 10 million barrel a day disruption to a 15 [million] to 17 million barrel a day disruption,” Brew said. Crude oil prices would quickly spike from the current levels of $90 to $100 a barrel to $150 per barrel, he said..."
 
It is worse than that imo.

All smart smaller nations now with any strategic choke point location access can now see via this war (and Ukraine prior) that is simply makes no sense to build up big and expensive conventional military force in an attempt to 'show force' that would deter a greater power from attacking.

Instead build up massive drone capabilities, at a fraction of the cost, that can be hidden, moved and threaten and shut down down key infrastructure threatening world wide economic chaos. And make the conventional army try to shoot them all down requiring multiples more of the much more expensive munitions.

Iran could threaten the two key straits in the area, which would cause world wide economic damage far beyond just threatening one of the other individually.


Trump faces new oil shock threat as Iran eyes second strait - Bab el-Mandeb Strait

"..The strait is a critical shipping route for many global products, including electronics, clothing, furniture, household goods and food supplies like wheat, corn and coffee. It connects markets in Africa, Europe and Asia including the Middle East....

“... even to do so in a pretty small way, fire a couple missiles, fire a couple drones — then offloading tankers becomes impossible, and this goes from a 10 million barrel a day disruption to a 15 [million] to 17 million barrel a day disruption,” Brew said. Crude oil prices would quickly spike from the current levels of $90 to $100 a barrel to $150 per barrel, he said..."
Trump has wasted billions on his war and put our nation deeper in debt with more debt to come.

The fact the MAGAts are cheering him on to spend even more money we don't have in a forever war is weird since it's the complete opposite of what they were advocating before the 2024 election.
 
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Duhhhhhh... "I don't think trump is screwing around this time Duhhhh!
You're such a fool.
Said the guy who cant even hold a job. The very picture of.........UNSTABLE. Yep,...that's YOU. Unstable. In just about every way imaginable.
MAGAt rule #1 A bold-faced lie is your best defense
MAGAt rule #2 Never take responsibility
MAGAt rule #3 Always blame the other guy, always blame the victim.
MAGAt rule #4 When the conversation isn't going your way, change the subject.
MAGAt rule #5 When losing an argument, use whataboutism
MAGAt rule #6 Assert your dominance by insulting anyone who disagrees with you as often as possible
 
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Trump has wasted billions on his war and put our nation deeper in debt with more debt to come.

The fact the MAGAts are cheering him on to spend even more money we don't have in a forever war is weird since it's the complete opposite of what they were advocating before the 2024 election.
it is what i have always said and we all know now, and quite frankly Trump making it so clear is a gift to the rest of America.

There is a percent of America (Hillary rightly identified as the Deplorables) who have absolutely no morals or positions. NONE, ZERO. They are just empty hate units who can adopt to any position as long as it serves for an outlet for their hate. Early republicans recognized it and talked about and labelled it "The Southern Strategy" but saw it as too dangerous to use to America over all.

But in the future we must remember that any position they push (anti gay, anti pedophile, anti war, etc) is all fake for them and they will take the exact opposite view the day after a leader who feeds their hate takes it.
 
Goat herders took on 100 Delta force, Seal team six and Rangers on the ground and won. Iranians are revolutionaries exposing our soft underbelly.
It also reveals the rag headed animals aren't fit to be around humans.
 
But not for the reasons some may think. Fact is,....I don't want to see Iran wiped out, not in the way what looks like is coming. I wouldn't wish that on ANYONE. I don't think Trump is screwing around this time,....I think he means what he says. Hopefully Iran comes to its senses and submits so that this doesn't have to take place. Because if they don't its going to be real bad for them. Like suffering on a grand scale bad for them. Lets all hope and pray that the Iranian leadership comes to its senses and does the right thing so the world can get on with the work of making things better. This is Irans Hiroshima moment...........don't makes the same mistakes as Japan did.
It's going according to the decisions iran makes
 
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Idiot who attempts to use ANY situation no matter how grave merely in the hopes of political gain. You are an amoral piece of trash. What,....you didnt think EVERYONE knew exactly what you were doing as you CHEERED Iran on? Looks like you wont be able to do that anymore,....because there wont be anymore Iran as we knew it.
You are correct about the "idiots"...although we normally refer to them as MAGA morons.
 
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Idiot who attempts to use ANY situation no matter how grave merely in the hopes of political gain. You are an amoral piece of trash. What,....you didnt think EVERYONE knew exactly what you were doing as you CHEERED Iran on? Looks like you wont be able to do that anymore,....because there wont be anymore Iran as we knew it.
Iran is considered to be the natural extension of the Persian Empire which has existed since 550 BC.
They will continue to exist despite the Moron-in-Chief and his continuing morons followers/enablers.
 
It also reveals the rag headed animals aren't fit to be around humans.
I used to believe Americans were revolutionaries until we got fat and lazy. Now we let government do whatever they want and there's nothing we can do about it.
 
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