Insight into the Trump voter mindset.

Taichiliberal

Taichiliberal

Shaken, not stirred!
Back in 1989, I was working in NYC in a small office for a magazine consultant. This was during the time when our future President Donald Trump was making a name for himself in the public eye with a best seller book (The Art of the Deal) touting his real estate and entrepreneur skills and achievements. He was all over local and national TV affiliates, showing off his gold laden home, current pin-up wife, etc.

One of my co-workers, an Italian-American woman in her late 50’s, was quite enamored of Mr. Trump. She constantly expressed admiration as to his “self made” accomplishments. One day, I pointed out that Trump was BORN into wealth, given access to education and business connections people like her (and myself) could never dream to have....not to mention starting his “career” with a few million from dear old dad. To call him “self made” would be a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

“Well”, she stubbornly stated, “it’s what he did with that money on his own that counts!”

I found this declaration jaw dropping for this reason; this same woman turned up her nose at joining the office pool for the local lottery. Her reason being that she didn’t like the idea of “people always wanting something for nothing”. She was oblivious to the glaring double -standard of her attitude towards her fellow wage earners and that of Mr. Trump.

If she is still alive today, I have no doubt she voted for Trump ... As I am sure that her attitude served as an integral part of the basis for the many others who did.

33 years, and I’m still amazed at how some people will vote against their own best interests for others who essentially use them as doormats.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Back in 1989, I was working in NYC in a small office for a magazine consultant. This was during the time when our future President Donald Trump was making a name for himself in the public eye with a best seller book (The Art of the Deal) touting his real estate and entrepreneur skills and achievements. He was all over local and national TV affiliates, showing off his gold laden home, current pin-up wife, etc.

One of my co-workers, an Italian-American woman in her late 50’s, was quite enamored of Mr. Trump. She constantly expressed admiration as to his “self made” accomplishments. One day, I pointed out that Trump was BORN into wealth, given access to education and business connections people like her (and myself) could never dream to have....not to mention starting his “career” with a few million from dear old dad. To call him “self made” would be a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

“Well”, she stubbornly stated, “it’s what he did with that money on his own that counts!”

I found this declaration jaw dropping for this reason; this same woman turned up her nose at joining the office pool for the local lottery. Her reason being that she didn’t like the idea of “people always wanting something for nothing”. She was oblivious to the glaring double -standard of her attitude towards her fellow wage earners and that of Mr. Trump.

If she is still alive today, I have no doubt she voted for Trump ... As I am sure that her attitude served as an integral part of the basis for the many others who did.

33 years, and I’m still amazed at how some people will vote against their own best interests for others who essentially use them as doormats.
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he did do well in expanding what he was given.

and gambling is ultimately mostly stupid.

sensible woman.
:truestory:
 
Taichiliberal said:
Back in 1989, I was working in NYC in a small office for a magazine consultant. This was during the time when our future President Donald Trump was making a name for himself in the public eye with a best seller book (The Art of the Deal) touting his real estate and entrepreneur skills and achievements. He was all over local and national TV affiliates, showing off his gold laden home, current pin-up wife, etc.

One of my co-workers, an Italian-American woman in her late 50’s, was quite enamored of Mr. Trump. She constantly expressed admiration as to his “self made” accomplishments. One day, I pointed out that Trump was BORN into wealth, given access to education and business connections people like her (and myself) could never dream to have....not to mention starting his “career” with a few million from dear old dad. To call him “self made” would be a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

“Well”, she stubbornly stated, “it’s what he did with that money on his own that counts!”

I found this declaration jaw dropping for this reason; this same woman turned up her nose at joining the office pool for the local lottery. Her reason being that she didn’t like the idea of “people always wanting something for nothing”. She was oblivious to the glaring double -standard of her attitude towards her fellow wage earners and that of Mr. Trump.

If she is still alive today, I have no doubt she voted for Trump ... As I am sure that her attitude served as an integral part of the basis for the many others who did.

33 years, and I’m still amazed at how some people will vote against their own best interests for others who essentially use them as doormats.
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Please define "voting against their own best interests."

That makes zero sense.

And all of Trump's wealth did not come from his father. That's absurd.
 
Life is Golden said:
And all of Trump's wealth did not come from his father.
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That's true. A good part of it came from stiffing contractors, especially small ones who couldn't fight back, and multiple bankruptcies.

Then there were big loans from Deutsche Bank when nobody else would touch him. Why they did it, and where the money really came from, we don't know.
 
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[h=2]Insight into the Trump voter mindset.[/h]
In the absence of a mind, what serves as a "mindset?"

I'm an Italian-American with a mind.
If I had ever voted for Trump, it would have been the responsibility of my family to have me immediately euthanized.
My own parents would have in all probability arisen from their graves to crush my throat for the humiliation I inflicted on the family.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Back in 1989, I was working in NYC in a small office for a magazine consultant. This was during the time when our future President Donald Trump was making a name for himself in the public eye with a best seller book (The Art of the Deal) touting his real estate and entrepreneur skills and achievements. He was all over local and national TV affiliates, showing off his gold laden home, current pin-up wife, etc.

One of my co-workers, an Italian-American woman in her late 50’s, was quite enamored of Mr. Trump. She constantly expressed admiration as to his “self made” accomplishments. One day, I pointed out that Trump was BORN into wealth, given access to education and business connections people like her (and myself) could never dream to have....not to mention starting his “career” with a few million from dear old dad. To call him “self made” would be a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

“Well”, she stubbornly stated, “it’s what he did with that money on his own that counts!”

I found this declaration jaw dropping for this reason; this same woman turned up her nose at joining the office pool for the local lottery. Her reason being that she didn’t like the idea of “people always wanting something for nothing”. She was oblivious to the glaring double -standard of her attitude towards her fellow wage earners and that of Mr. Trump.

If she is still alive today, I have no doubt she voted for Trump ... As I am sure that her attitude served as an integral part of the basis for the many others who did.

33 years, and I’m still amazed at how some people will vote against their own best interests for others who essentially use them as doormats.
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Insight into the brandon voter mindset

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Trump went bankrupt several times. If his dad did not leave him a pile of money he would be a doorman at a casino. Trump bankrupted 3 casinos. How could anyone do that? Trump way, way overextended himself when he bought casinos. When it came due, he did not have it. That is not a bright businessman.
I read that some banks decided not to take him down to zero, because they thought his name was worth something to them. Trump was seen as high quality and elite. So they built hotels and apartments and put his name on them. They allowed him to manage them. That saved trump's flabby ass.
A real billionaire would not host a reality TV show.
 
How Donald Trump became Deutsche Bank's biggest headache

Deutsche has not explained why it continued to bankroll Trump and his real estate deals. Even before the 2008 legal dispute [he refused to pay what he owed on a personal guarantee, and counter-sued the bank for $3 billion], Trump’s chequered business record was infamous. Other financial houses in New York refused to give him credit, following a string of failed ventures including an airline and a casino empire in Atlantic City.

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...d-trump-became-deutsche-bank-biggest-headache


But he did do well in expanding what he was given - right, AssHat? Lol.
 
AssHatZombie said:
he did do well in expanding what he was given.

and gambling is ultimately mostly stupid.

sensible woman.
:truestory:
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Pretty funny, like saying you hit a home run when you were standing on third base, what was Donnie’s line, “my dad only gave me a couple of million?”
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
That's true. A good part of it came from stiffing contractors, especially small ones who couldn't fight back, and multiple bankruptcies.

Then there were big loans from Deutsche Bank when nobody else would touch him. Why they did it, and where the money really came from, we don't know.
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Hey, we heard him, that makes him smart
 
Life is Golden said:
Please define "voting against their own best interests."

That makes zero sense.

And all of Trump's wealth did not come from his father. That's absurd.
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Well, the best example is when Republicans paint themselves as "the party of the working man", then do nothing but make things harder for working men and women. They'll cut taxes for the wealthy and corporations, making the rich richer, but ignore the non-wealthy. Mississippi letting Jackson's water system fail is one of the best current examples of letting the poor fend for themselves.

They'll do photo ops in factories and tell you they're going to "bring back manufacturing jobs", like twump did, but once they get the votes, those promises are forgotten.

So, there you go.
 
archives said:
Pretty funny, like saying you hit a home run when you were standing on third base, what was Donnie’s line, “my dad only gave me a couple of million?”
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When I was stationed at FLEASWTRACEN in San Diego, one of the other instructors hit the California lottery. If memory serves, he won around million dollars.

The Navy made immediate moves to discharge him, the thought being that an enlisted guy with that kind of money would be, at best, difficult to deal with. He fought to stay in. He had 14 years in at the time and it was very, very important to him that he retire from the Navy. His father and Grandfather were both retired Navy. His brother was only a year or two away from retiring. A life serving the military was what his family did, and he was distressed at the thought of not being able to do it.

Anyway, he got a lawyer and appealed the decision to separate him from the Navy. The case went all the way to CINCPACFLT, who ultimately decided that he should be permitted to remain in the Navy, especially considering that there had never been a single disciplinary mark in his service jacket, and there was no reason to believe that would change.

And that was a fortunate decision for the instructor, as he was pretty much broke a year before he retired.

It's not easy making money. Oftentimes it's even harder holding onto it. If Trump turned "a few million" into billions, it's hard to criticize that...
 
Street Glider said:
When I was stationed at FLEASWTRACEN in San Diego, one of the other instructors hit the California lottery. If memory serves, he won around million dollars.

The Navy made immediate moves to discharge him, the thought being that an enlisted guy with that kind of money would be, at best, difficult to deal with. He fought to stay in. He had 14 years in at the time and it was very, very important to him that he retire from the Navy. His father and Grandfather were both retired Navy. His brother was only a year or two away from retiring. A life serving the military was what his family did, and he was distressed at the thought of not being able to do it.

Anyway, he got a lawyer and appealed the decision to separate him from the Navy. The case went all the way to CINCPACFLT, who ultimately decided that he should be permitted to remain in the Navy, especially considering that there had never been a single disciplinary mark in his service jacket, and there was no reason to believe that would change.

And that was a fortunate decision for the instructor, as he was pretty much broke a year before he retired.

It's not easy making money. Oftentimes it's even harder holding onto it. If Trump turned "a few million" into billions, it's hard to criticize that...
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False equivalency.
 
Street Glider said:
How so?
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It wasn’t as if Trump’s money was just dropped in his lap suddenly, like your buddy’s. He already had millions, a network set up by his daddy, connections, a cadre of lawyers, accountants, etc. All in place by daddy. Not merely a million or so dumped in an unprepared and unsupported guy who had no idea what wealth meant.

Trump was and is a poor businessman. A con man. A user. A liar. Your pal was a poor, unprepared schlep.
 
Life is Golden said:
Please define "voting against their own best interests."

That makes zero sense.

And all of Trump's wealth did not come from his father. That's absurd.
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1. When you vote for a political system that has consistently provided tax breaks for the wealthier portion of society while leaving the burden of country's revenue deficit to the non-wealthy (aka YOU), that's voting against your best interest. When you vote for a political system that reduces accountability of products (medical, mechanical, economic) from the producers and limits/prevents the ability of the recipient/customer to seek legal accountability for damages received via faulty products or unscrupulous practices that is voting against your best interest. When you vote for a political system that takes away your ability of choice with regards to the most personal decisions in life that involve only your body and your immediate family, that is voting against your best interest. I could go on, but that's the top 3 to date.

2. Oh it makes sense if you stop being willfully ignorant and intellectually dishonest regarding ALL the information available (see #1).

3. I didn't say it did, so stop this stupid ass tactic that right wing wonks continuously use when dealing with facts that contradict their edicts. As I did 33 years ago, I point out now a simple matter of history & fact. Not only did Trump start his "career" with a fantastic monetary "gift" from dear old dad, he also given privy to business connections, and later inherited all business and property owning. Do a little research into Daddy Trump and what little Donny came into. Once you get a little more educated on the subject, you might stop these absurd rebuttals of yours.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
[h=2]Insight into the Trump voter mindset.[/h]
In the absence of a mind, what serves as a "mindset?"

I'm an Italian-American with a mind.
If I had ever voted for Trump, it would have been the responsibility of my family to have me immediately euthanized.
My own parents would have in all probability arisen from their graves to crush my throat for the humiliation I inflicted on the family.
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:laugh: Classic!
 
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