Poor toby, my main man, you need a little education, using the research as a basis for a story is not in and of itself proof of anything other than the media outlet is aware of the research. Condemning a media outlet for this awareness is irresponsible in the extreme. Certainly toby, my main man, you are not suggesting outright censorship or prior restraint, because the Supreme Court has ruled those tactics un-constitutional on several occasions. But, while I agree that noone and certainly none of us, including my main man, toby, can say with any degree of certainty just what the civilian death toll in Iraq is, I think this report at least gives some credence to the John McLaughlin numbers of over 140,000 that you took such strong exception to when I under-estimated them by nearly 40,000. You really want this to be a war where no one gets hurt, except Americans, and that's truly a laudible sentiment, but sorry toby, my main man, that isn't the way war works, another 60 Iraqis were found dead on the streets of Baghdad this morning.