Iraq is too dangerous for little Prince Harry

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Cypress

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I just heard that the british government decided that Iraq is too dangerous, to deploy Prince Harry there.


I wonder how british solidiers in Iraq feel about this? I wonder why iraq is too dangerous for Prince Harry, but it's not to dangerous for the working class lad from Liverpool?
 
Cypress said:
I just heard that the british government decided that Iraq is too dangerous, to deploy Prince Harry there.


I wonder how british solidiers in Iraq feel about this? I wonder why iraq is too dangerous for Prince Harry, but it's not to dangerous for the working class lad from Liverpool?
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Because they haven't found videos of the groups of insurgents working on a plan to assisinate specifically the little guy, but they have of such plans for the Prince.
 
Damocles said:
Because they haven't found videos of the groups of insurgents working on a plan to assisinate specifically the little guy, but they have of such plans for the Prince.
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Every single british soldier in iraq has a bounty on his head. Every single one is targeted for death or assasination.
 
Damocles said:
Because they haven't found videos of the groups of insurgents working on a plan to assisinate specifically the little guy, but they have of such plans for the Prince.
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Well, since every soldier there is a prize kill for somebody, I don't think that's necessarily true.

But I do think that sending this guy over there was a stupid idea. If he was kidnapped I'd have to hear about it for longer than the missing blonde girl in Aruba. They might bring Rita Crosby back to investigate it. All in all, it's not worth the trouble.
 
Darla said:
Well, since every soldier there is a prize kill for somebody, I don't think that's necessarily true.

But I do think that sending this guy over there was a stupid idea. If he was kidnapped I'd have to hear about it for longer than the missing blonde girl in Aruba. They might bring Rita Crosby back to investigate it. All in all, it's not worth the trouble.
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I'm not buying the excuse that it was too dangerous.

Most of FDR's sons served in the front lines of world war two. I'm positive Hitler knew about it, and would have considered the death or capture of FDR's sons, a PR coup. And I suspect the Wermacht or the SS was every bit as capable as some poorly-trained iraqi insurgents.
 
Cypress said:
Every single british soldier in iraq has a bounty on his head. Every single one is targeted for death or assasination.
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However, not every one of them would be the moral blow as the loss of a Prince would be.

Once again, those others do not have the specificity of a plan such as there have been discovered for the Prince. Pretending not to understand what a propaganda fiat it would be to get him doesn't change the fact that it would be such a fiat.
 
Cypress said:
I'm not buying the excuse that it was too dangerous.

Most of FDR's sons served in the front lines of world war two. I'm positive Hitler knew about it, and would have considered the death or capture of FDR's sons, a PR coup. And I suspect the Wermacht or the SS was every bit as capable as some poorly-trained iraqi insurgents.
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I don't think that consensus of the war in GB makes such a "sacrifice" seem worth it. You'd have to ask the government there though. Personally, were I the Prince I would insist on going if my assigned group were going.
 
Cypress said:
I'm not buying the excuse that it was too dangerous.

Most of FDR's sons served in the front lines of world war two. I'm positive Hitler knew about it, and would have considered the death or capture of FDR's sons, a PR coup. And I suspect the Wermacht or the SS was every bit as capable as some poorly-trained iraqi insurgents.
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I don't know Cypress. We live in a different world today. A world where the leader of one country had the sons of the leader of another country murdered and their bodies displayed in front of the world.

I doubt that if the Germans would have captured FDR's sons they wouuld have put him in orange jumpsuits in a cage, and eventually cut their heads off on a video camera. But today, that's what we do. We think it's barbaric when the other side does it, but we high five each other when we do it. I think it's asking for a gruesome ending, but that's just my opinion. I do agree that many who go there are going to come to a gruesome ending as well. I guess I'm torn.
 
Damocles said:
I don't think that consensus of the war in GB makes such a "sacrifice" seem worth it. You'd have to ask the government there though. Personally, were I the Prince I would insist on going if my assigned group were going.
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Honestly, I think Prince Harry wants to go. I cut him slack. His commanding officers, and the British governmet made the call not to send him. My guess, is that this doesn't go down well, with the majority of british soliders serving in Iraq.
 
Cypress said:
Honestly, I think Prince Harry wants to go. I cut him slack. His commanding officers, and the British governmet made the call not to send him. My guess, is that this doesn't go down well, with the majority of british soliders serving in Iraq.
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No, probably not. If I were one of them I think I'd be pissed too.
 
Darla said:
I don't know Cypress. We live in a different world today. A world where the leader of one country had the sons of the leader of another country murdered and their bodies displayed in front of the world.

I doubt that if the Germans would have captured FDR's sons they wouuld have put him in orange jumpsuits in a cage, and eventually cut their heads off on a video camera. But today, that's what we do. We think it's barbaric when the other side does it, but we high five each other when we do it. I think it's asking for a gruesome ending, but that's just my opinion. I do agree that many who go there are going to come to a gruesome ending as well. I guess I'm torn.
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I can't really say who was in more danger: FDR's sons, or Prince Harry in Iraq. Storming the beaches of Normandy seems like it could be every bit as dangerous as street patrol duty in Basra. But, I know what your saying. I don't want any americans or british soldiers to have to go to iraq. As such, I really don't even want Prince Harry to go.
 
All you have to look at to know the difference is look at how Prince Harry is viewed by the British and Jenna and Barbara Bush in America. Children of president's mean little. Children of Monarchs apparently do.

I doubt they would do this for Blair's children.
 
Personally I think the situation has been a total clusterfuck. If the MOD hadn't released details of Harry's deployment, if it hadn't been splattered across the media for the last few months, Harry could have served his tour without any fuss. The only reason his, or his men's, lives were in danger was because of the media.

Don't think Harry had anything to do with not going, he has been chomping at the bit to go, and sounded absolutely gutted when he was told he couldn't, probably wanted to follow in his ancestor namesake's footsteps, Henry V.... lol Britain never loses a campaign when a royal Harry is in action...lol

Having said that, I doubt we'll hear much from Harry for a few months, maybe the MOD has done the rope-a-dope trick, realised that the media has caused the problem, told them he isn't going, only for six months from now it be released that Harry has just done his tour.

For a republican, I think Harry's actions over this, his keenness to serve with his troops and face danger for his country has certainly raised the royal's flag amongst the people....
 
AnyOldIron said:
For a republican, I think Harry's actions over this, his keenness to serve with his troops and face danger for his country has certainly raised the royal's flag amongst the people....
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What republican? It certainly raised that flag for those he served with.
 
What republican?

Not Republican in the US sense, but Republican as in desiring Britain to return to being a Republic...
 
Yeah Nam was to dangerous for prince George as well.

The difference is, Prince Harry was chomping at the bit to go fight, it was the brass who prevented him....
 
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