Is agnosticism a cop-out?

[Into the Night]

the constituion is a government document, don't forget that, anarcho-syndicalist fag.

Mantra 1a. Lame. The Constitution is not created by the government. It is the other way around. It is not a government document.

 

[Into the Night]

there's plenty of fascism on the right too.

...such as...?

most of the right supports supply side economics, which is code for molding government to suit the purposes of large coporations because they're the "doers" and the ""job creators" and everyone else is a lesser being.

Corporations are businesses. They hire people. Nothing prevents you from starting your own business either.

while simulataneously supporting no bid contracts

Nothing wrong with that. May the best supplier succeed.

and infinite black budgets because they're not communists oh hell no.

That's DEMOCRATS, and many of them ARE communists.

fascism is the union and state of corporate power.

Redefinition fallacy. Fascism is a form of socialism. It is government manipulation of markets. Like any form of socialism, it is based on theft of wealth.

 

[Into the Night]

fiat currency printed up to genocide the world,

Fiat currency is not genocide. Redefinition fallacy.

and placed on the backs of the next victims.

Fiat currency is not placed on the backs of anyone. People can choose to accept it, or not.

think of the horror of this state of affairs.

Fiat currency, having no backing of any commodity, is subject to continual inflation (as the government using it expands), and must collapse at some point. People will simply switch to another currency. No government can stop that.

 

[dancindave]

Heh. That's one way to put it!

Yes. It is not possible to prove any circular argument (or argument of faith) either TRUE or FALSE.

I happen to be a Christian. I believe there is a God, and his Son, Jesus Christ, and try to follow their teachings. I can't prove it, and I don't plan to try. I simply take it on faith, and the evidence supporting it. (Note that evidence is not a proof).

So your suicidal super ego in sociopsychopathogical homicidal human farming of Christiananality pedophilia interpretation of “one nation under God with equal justice under law” collecting on Christian Nation SCOTUS Rehnquist “what is 9/11 ?” rhetorical Freudian slip as the national religion of thieving US Constitution Bill of Rights arsonists.

 

[Into the Night]

not at all

I write with total clarity.

spare us all the non responsive trolling this morning.

Random phrases. No apparent coherency.

 

[Into the Night]

• Atheist – Someone who does not believe in a god or gods. This is about belief (or the lack of it).
• Agnostic – Someone who does not claim to know whether a god or gods exist. This is about knowledge (or uncertainty).

Atheism is a religion - based on faith that there is no god or gods.

WRONG.

'Atheist' means 'no religion'. They simply don't care whether there is a god or gods. There might be, there might not be. The atheist simply doesn't care.

'Agnostic' means can be religion, even claim a god or gods exist. He cannot describe them because it's unknowable.

Atheism is NOT a religion. It means the exact opposite of 'religion'.

 

[Into the Night]

that's what fascist say when called out.

"supply side" means "business should be worshipped".

its that whole banker cocksucker atlas shrugged " oligarchs are the only real people" libertarian nonsense.

Random words and phrases. No apparent coherency.

 

[Into the Night]

that's what Masonic gatekeepers who are bad at their job do.

Random words and phrases. No apparent coherency.

 

[Into the Night]

but eventually name checking must resolve into the details of the realities of the experiments conducted to verify truth, and their flaws, with new approaches for the next round of reality discovery.


you're an imperialist for the empire of bullshit.

Random words and phrases. No apparent coherency.

 

[Uncensored2008]

that's what fascist say when called out.

"supply side" means "business should be worshipped".

No my ignorant and uneducated little friend, supply side says that markets attract buyers through the offering of goods and services. Or more succinctly as Jean-Baptiste Say stated it "Supply Creates It's Own Demand." (Say's Law)

Lord Keynes rejected this central tenet of classical economics. Keynes claimed that an economy in a recessionary cycle must be stimulated with government spending, that is deficit spending, to stimulate the economy by artificially pumping capital into the hands of the public in order to create demand. Keynes rejected market driven economics and postulated that demand is created by idle capital in the hands of consumer. Basically that the average consumer will immediately spend said capital on available goods and services and this will stimulate the economy.

Long before historical data proved this to be false, a group of economists from the University of Illinois at Chicago crafted a treatise demonstrating that Keynes was wildly incorrect. Keynes was a cloistered academic who never held a private sector job in his life. He had his charts and graphs, but no real life knowledge. He didn't grasp the concept of appealing to customers or innovating. Milton Friedman, the leader of the Chicago School absolutely destroyed Keynes in a series of debates. Showing that the demand and stimulus ideas had utterly failed during the depression, where FDR fully implemented Keynesian policies. And that those ideas are bound to fail as they simply don't mesh with the reality of a free and dynamic market.

The Chicago School, however is not considered to be supply side, despite obliterating the "demand side" managed economy of Keynes. It is rather a neo-classical school of economics.

Supply Side as a branch of economic thought can trace to luminaries such as Ludwig Von Mises and Friedrich Hayek. But it is really Murray Rothbard and the seminal "Man, Economy, and State" that defined "Supply Side" properly. Arthur Laffer was a student of Rothbard and led the Reagan Recovery that led to 16 years of sustained economic growth - the longest cycle in history - with Bill Clinton continuing the Reagan policies into the beginning of his second term.

its that whole banker cocksucker atlas shrugged " oligarchs are the only real people" libertarian nonsense.

You are extremely ignorant and spew on about subjects you have literally zero knowledge of. I get it, you're a Democrat - it's your nature to be ignorant.

 

[Daylight63]

Makes sense. Sounds to me like what you’re saying is a so-called atheist can’t prove there is no god and a fundamentalist can’t prove there is one. So basically everyone is an I Don’t Knower.

Can you prove that there isn't an invisible crown that floats above your head all the time? It's invisible and cannot be felt or seen.

Now prove it doesn't exist.

 

[Neoclitorus]

No my ignorant and uneducated little friend, supply side says that markets attract buyers through the offering of goods and services. Or more succinctly as Jean-Baptiste Say stated it "Supply Creates It's Own Demand." (Say's Law)

Lord Keynes rejected this central tenet of classical economics. Keynes claimed that an economy in a recessionary cycle must be stimulated with government spending, that is deficit spending, to stimulate the economy by artificially pumping capital into the hands of the public in order to create demand. Keynes rejected market driven economics and postulated that demand is created by idle capital in the hands of consumer. Basically that the average consumer will immediately spend said capital on available goods and services and this will stimulate the economy.

Long before historical data proved this to be false, a group of economists from the University of Illinois at Chicago crafted a treatise demonstrating that Keynes was wildly incorrect. Keynes was a cloistered academic who never held a private sector job in his life. He had his charts and graphs, but no real life knowledge. He didn't grasp the concept of appealing to customers or innovating. Milton Friedman, the leader of the Chicago School absolutely destroyed Keynes in a series of debates. Showing that the demand and stimulus ideas had utterly failed during the depression, where FDR fully implemented Keynesian policies. And that those ideas are bound to fail as they simply don't mesh with the reality of a free and dynamic market.

The Chicago School, however is not considered to be supply side, despite obliterating the "demand side" managed economy of Keynes. It is rather a neo-classical school of economics.

Supply Side as a branch of economic thought can trace to luminaries such as Ludwig Von Mises and Friedrich Hayek. But it is really Murray Rothbard and the seminal "Man, Economy, and State" that defined "Supply Side" properly. Arthur Laffer was a student of Rothbard and led the Reagan Recovery that led to 16 years of sustained economic growth - the longest cycle in history - with Bill Clinton continuing the Reagan policies into the beginning of his second term.




You are extremely ignorant and spew on about subjects you have literally zero knowledge of. I get it, you're a Democrat - it's your nature to be ignorant.

blah blah no shit.

think government should just be an extension of corporate power.

that makes you a fascist.

yes you have your reasons.

yes you think they're good.

they are not.

markets are not free however. deep violence is involved. so fuck your lies.

 

[Neoclitorus]

Random phrases. No apparent coherency.

I'm sorry you have a reading disability.

let me sum it up again simply.

fascism is the union of state and corporate power.

got it ace, ace in the anus-hole?

 

[Neoclitorus]

state, corporation, church.


think of it like a Trilateral Commission.

THe truth is out there.

 

[Uncensored2008]

blah blah no shit.

think government should just be an extension of corporate power.

that makes you a fascist.

yes you have your reasons.

yes you think they're good.

they are not.

markets are not free however. deep violence is involved. so fuck your lies.

LOL

You ignorant and uneducated fool.

Stick to your dancingdave sock - it actually is more sensible than you.

 

[Into the Night]

No my ignorant and uneducated little friend, supply side says that markets attract buyers through the offering of goods and services. Or more succinctly as Jean-Baptiste Say stated it "Supply Creates It's Own Demand." (Say's Law)

A good way to put it!

Lord Keynes rejected this central tenet of classical economics. Keynes claimed that an economy in a recessionary cycle must be stimulated with government spending, that is deficit spending, to stimulate the economy by artificially pumping capital into the hands of the public in order to create demand. Keynes rejected market driven economics and postulated that demand is created by idle capital in the hands of consumer. Basically that the average consumer will immediately spend said capital on available goods and services and this will stimulate the economy.

What Keynes suggested is communism, since he is presupposing the government is capable of printing fiat money on a whim. This, of course, devalues that currency (inflation)...a self destructive spiral.

Long before historical data proved this to be false, a group of economists from the University of Illinois at Chicago crafted a treatise demonstrating that Keynes was wildly incorrect. Keynes was a cloistered academic who never held a private sector job in his life. He had his charts and graphs, but no real life knowledge. He didn't grasp the concept of appealing to customers or innovating. Milton Friedman, the leader of the Chicago School absolutely destroyed Keynes in a series of debates. Showing that the demand and stimulus ideas had utterly failed during the depression, where FDR fully implemented Keynesian policies. And that those ideas are bound to fail as they simply don't mesh with the reality of a free and dynamic market.

The Chicago School, however is not considered to be supply side, despite obliterating the "demand side" managed economy of Keynes. It is rather a neo-classical school of economics.

Supply Side as a branch of economic thought can trace to luminaries such as Ludwig Von Mises and Friedrich Hayek. But it is really Murray Rothbard and the seminal "Man, Economy, and State" that defined "Supply Side" properly. Arthur Laffer was a student of Rothbard and led the Reagan Recovery that led to 16 years of sustained economic growth - the longest cycle in history - with Bill Clinton continuing the Reagan policies into the beginning of his second term.

Nice bit of embellishment of the basic argument. Well done.

You are extremely ignorant and spew on about subjects you have literally zero knowledge of. I get it, you're a Democrat - it's your nature to be ignorant.

He doesn't know the English language. He is constantly trying to use words he doesn't understand...often resulting in tirades of random words and phrases, completely meaningless. He tries to mindlessly chant what Democrats told him to chant, but he's bad at it.

 

[Into the Night]

Can you prove that there isn't an invisible crown that floats above your head all the time? It's invisible and cannot be felt or seen.

Now prove it doesn't exist.

Negative proof fallacy.