is Crimea the real zion?

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Turkic-speaking Karaite Jews (in the Crimean Tatar language, Qaraylar) have lived in Crimea for centuries. Their origin is a matter of great controversy. Most[9][10] modern scientists regard them as descendants of Karaite Jews who settled in Crimea and adopted a Kypchak language. Others [11] view them as descendants of Khazar or Cuman, Kipchak converts to Karaite Judaism. Today, many Crimean Karaites reject ethnic Semitic origins theories and identify as descendants of the Khazars.[12] Some specialists in Khazar history question the Khazar theory of Karaim origins,[13][14] noting the following:

the Karaim language belongs to the Kipchak language subgroup of Turkic, and the Khazar language belongs to the Bulgar group; there is no close relationship between these two Turkic languages;[15]
According to the Khazar Correspondence, Khazar Judaism was, most likely, Rabbinic Judaism.[16] The tradition of Karaite Judaism ranks only the Tanakh as a holy book and does not recognize the Talmud;
Khazars disappeared in the 11th century. But, the first written mention of the Crimean Karaites was in the 13th century;[17]
Anthropologic researches show similarity between Crimean Karaites of Lithuania and Egyptian Karaite Jews;[18]
In 19th century Crimea, Karaites began to distinguish themselves from other Jewish groups, sending envoys to the czars to plead for exemptions from harsh anti-Jewish legislation. These entreaties were successful, in large part due to the czars’ wariness of the Talmud, and in 1863 Karaites were granted the same rights as their Christian and Tatar neighbors. Exempted from the Pale of Settlement, later they were considered non Jews by Nazis. This left the community untouched by the Holocaust, unlike other Turkic-speaking Jews, like the Krymchak Jews that were almost wiped out.[19]

Miller says that Crimean Karaites did not start claiming a distinct identity apart from the Jewish people before the 19th century, and that such leaders as Avraham Firkovich and Sima Babovich encouraged this position to avoid the strong antisemitism of the period.[20]

From the time of the Golden Horde onward, Karaites were present in many towns and villages throughout Crimea and around the Black Sea. During the period of the Crimean Khanate, they had major communities in the towns of Çufut Qale, Sudak, Kefe, and Bakhchysarai.[citation needed]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Karaites
 
is Crimea the real zion?

Whether Jerusalem is really Zion is a fascinating question, but there is no reason to believe that Crimea is Zion. Maybe the Karaite Jews moved to Crimea from Central Asia, and converted to Judaism. Maybe the Karaite Jews moved to Crimea from the Israel area, and learned the Karaim Language. Either way, Zion is still in the Israel area, not in Crimea. The Karaite Jews did not move Mount Zion to the Crimea.
 
Whether Jerusalem is really Zion is a fascinating question, but there is no reason to believe that Crimea is Zion. Maybe the Karaite Jews moved to Crimea from Central Asia, and converted to Judaism. Maybe the Karaite Jews moved to Crimea from the Israel area, and learned the Karaim Language. Either way, Zion is still in the Israel area, not in Crimea. The Karaite Jews did not move Mount Zion to the Crimea.

maybe its like the mecca and medina of judaism?
 
maybe its like the mecca and medina of judaism?

Christians are always looking for the 10 lost tribes, maybe they are one of the 10 lost tribes. I am not saying they are; this is more an anything is possible.

The Temple is the only thing similar to Mecca in the Jewish faith. The First Temple of the Jews is almost certainly where we think it is, Jerusalem. If you read the Old Testament carefully, you will realize that Jerusalem was only the capital of Israel for about 70 years. It was the capital/religious headquarters for Judah for a lot longer, but Israel supposedly split off.

Many historians no longer believe there was ever a United Kingdom, and therefore Jerusalem was never the capital of Israel. They think the Jews of Judah took in the educated people, and stories from Israel when Israel(to the north of Judah) collapsed. Even if there was a United Kingdom, it only lasted for 70 years with Jerusalem as its capital/religious headquarters.

Israel's capital was for the most part Samaria, and its temple was probably at Mount Gerizim. Both are about 30 miles to the north of Jerusalem. So it could be argued that the First Temple of Israel might have been at Mount Gerizim, and therefore many of the stories of the First Temple would be in a different location than the First Temple of the Jews.

That being said, there is no reason to believe it is way up in the Crimea. Everything we are talking about is within Israel/The West Bank.
 
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