Is Screwing Up More Often Safer, Politically?

Mina

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Paradoxically, it may be better for a politician to hand the press a steady stream of negative story opportunities, rather than starve them, such that they obsessively cover just a few negative stories.

Take two Democratic "gaffes" that got obsessive coverage:

(1) Hillary Clinton gave a speech that, in context, was arguing that liberals should take the concerns of Trump supporters seriously, since half of them were just people who'd been poorly served by government.... but the media fixated on one out-of-context line where she said the other half were a basket of deplorables, and they practically turned that into the catch-phrase of her campaign. It became such a big deal that there are multiple poli-sci books focused on it, and to this day there's a wide range of "deplorables" merchandise available for right-wingers.

(2) Obama had a similar moment, when he gave a speech that included a line about working class people in old industrial towns being bitter and clinging to guns... a line the media used to portray him as an elitist, and which they're still taking out for a spin in the wake of the latest mass shooting.

For the most part, Clinton and Obama were cautious speakers who avoided any obviously offensive lines, so when they served up a rare nugget that could be taken out of context and fitted into the media's narrative about the Democrats being arrogant and condescending, those became constant refrains in the corporate media for years.

Now compare that to Donald Trump. You can look at the transcript of a single MAGA rally speech and find more gaffes on that scale than you'd find looking through Obama's and Clinton's whole careers. Every few lines Trump would spew the kind of statement that, if it had come from a Democrat, would be treated as such a misstep that it would have place of prominence in his obituary. Like, do you think Democrats are snobby elitists who look down on people from the other side of the political aisle? How about this rancid red meat Trump served up to a MAGA crowd:

"We got more money, we got more brains, we got better houses, apartments, we got nicer boats, we’re smarter than they are.... We’re the elite. You’re the elite. We’re the elite."

That kind of shameless, boastful elitism would be the death knell for a Democrat's career, but for Trump, it just blended into the background noise and was promptly forgotten.

It's not just gaffes, either. Consider sex scandals. Biden and Trump each had a very similar sex scandal: each was accused by a former acquaintance of having reached under her skirt, back in the 1990's, and having groped her, without consent. But in the media, you will find literally 20 times more material about Tara Reade, and her accusation against Biden, than about Kristin Anderson, and her nearly identical accusation against Trump. The mainstream outlets did one major story after another, during the 2020 campaign, about Reade's claim, for months on end. Anderson, if she got mentioned at all, usually just had her name tacked onto a long list of names of various women who'd made assorted sexual impropriety claims against Trump.

Or consider the huge amount of coverage of the USS Cole, during the Clinton years. A US navy ship was put in harm's way by the president and ended up getting hit with a deadly attack. The media held that security failure against Clinton with months of obsessive coverage. Compare it to the number of stories about the attack on the USS Stark, in the Reagan years -- when a US navy ship was put in harm's way by the president and ended up getting hit with a deadly attack. That got a few news cycles then basically vanished down the memory whole. Google "USS Stark attack" and you get 1,500 hits. "USS Cole attack" gives you 15,500. The Stark attack had a body count over twice as high, but the Cole got over ten times the attention. Or compare, say, the deadly attack on our consulate in Benghazi in the Obama years to the multiple deadlier attacks on our consulate in Karachi in the Bush years. Karachi almost immediately became obscure trivia, while Benghazi was treated by the media as one of the biggest stories in the world for four years.

I think what happens is that the media takes their impartiality mandate as a requirement to do equal amounts of negative coverage for both sides, regardless of what each side is doing. So, if Trump is alleged to have assaulted 20 women and you do 100 stories on that, and Biden is alleged to have assaulted one woman, you have to do 100 stories on that, too. If Trump says 100 things that insult Democratic voters and you do 100 stories on that, and Clinton says one thing that insults Republicans voters, you have to do 100 stories on that, too.

You'd think that would still be better for the Democrats, since voters would realize there are fresh screwups and offensive comments from the right every day, whereas the media's forced to beat the same dead horse for Democrats for months on end. But I'm not sure. I think maybe when you hear constantly changing negative stuff, it just kind of blends into the background and doesn't end up defining anyone, whereas when you hear the same thing over and over for months on end, it is almost like brain-washing, where it turns into an automatic response when you hear a name.

It works almost like a commercial jingle. The same way you might reflexively think "Just Do It" when you see Nike, you can immediately think "Benghazi" when you see Clinton, simply because they've been paired constantly in the media for years. That's why, for example, utter trivia like Al Gore bragging about his role in facilitating the development of the Internet became almost a knee-jerk reaction when people hear his name ("oh yeah, he 'invented the Internet." Hahaa!")

What do you think when I say "Elizabeth Warren"?

I'm willing to bet one of the first things that popped into your mind is the fact she claimed Native American heritage (which she actually has, but distantly enough that many think it's unseemly for her to mention it). That's one of the core features of her political "brand," like it or not. It's one of her only clear vulnerabilities, so the media covered it exhaustively year after year, and that ingrained it in the public mind as a defining fact about her. It's like an advertising jingle that automatically pops into your mind when her name comes up, thanks to sheer repetition in the media.

Now how about Donald Trump? He also lied about his ancestry. In order to try to get more favorable treatment for a business deal in Germany, he said his father was born in Germany, which he knew was untrue. But he's said it over and over again in contexts where he thought it might benefit him. It was a willful lie about ancestry in pursuit of a career edge (the very thing Warren is wrongly accused of), and yet how far down the list of facts about Trump would that fall for you, if you were to start listing? Warren's vulnerability is an isolated one, so the media turned it into her defining characteristic, whereas Trump's is just lost in the noise of his constant misconduct and does him absolutely no political harm.

So, yes, maybe screwing up more often is safer, politically. It's the difference between harmless background noise and a defining media characterization.
 
It seems unfathomable to the ethical person, but I finally had to realize that the reasons are just hidden in plain sight. Donald Trumpf is the most popular and beloved Republican politician of the 21st century prescisly because the GOP base loves pathological lying, philandering, narcissism, avarice, pettiness, toxic grudges, stupidity. To them, Trump is a fellow traveller and a soul mate.
 
...So, yes, maybe screwing up more often is safer, politically. It's the difference between harmless background noise and a defining media characterization.
Disagreed, but it's interesting to see you link up with the "fake news" crowd. Thanks for the post. :thup:

IMO the factor missing here is that all media is a business first. The old maxims apply: "If it bleeds it leads" and "Sex, Violence and Controversy are bestsellers".

Notice how CNN is almost 100% Uvalde with very little about Ukraine whereas, before the shooting, they were almost 100% Ukraine. This isn't a conspiracy as the nutjobs claim. It's just business. This is America where profit is king.

One of my minor hobbies is watching various channels to see their ads. Who are they selling to? Fox loved the "buy gold". Both CNN and Fox run medicare ads. LOL

Follow the money to see who is driving "the news". :)

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It seems unfathomable to the ethical person, but I finally had to realize that the reasons are just hidden in plain sight. Donald Trumpf is the most popular and beloved Republican politician of the 21st century prescisly because the GOP base loves pathological lying, philandering, narcissism, avarice, pettiness, toxic grudges, stupidity. To them, Trump is a fellow traveller and a soul mate.

Funny and sarcastic, but disagreed on your accuracy.

IMO the main thing driving the Pedo Party is fear and ignorance. Hating scared, ignorant people isn't fixing the problem.
 
It seems unfathomable to the ethical person, but I finally had to realize that the reasons are just hidden in plain sight. Donald Trumpf is the most popular and beloved Republican politician of the 21st century prescisly because the GOP base loves pathological lying, philandering, narcissism, avarice, pettiness, toxic grudges, stupidity. To them, Trump is a fellow traveller and a soul mate.

Yes. I think shared hatred is the strongest social glue. For a long time, political scribblers imagined that undereducated older white middle-American types disliked Democrats because they thought they were elitists or braggarts or libertines. But then Trump came along, with a level of open elitism and braggadocio never seen in American politics, and a shamelessly libertine lifestyle, and they loved him. They don't care that Trump is a vain and vicious man. They just care that he hates the same people they hate. Trump is a megaphone for hatred of various minorities and perceived political enemies, and that make him their favorite politician.
 
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Funny and sarcastic, but disagreed on your accuracy.

IMO the main thing driving the Pedo Party is fear and ignorance. Hating scared, ignorant people isn't fixing the problem.

The thing about it is, all Trump lovers are not ignorant and scared. A lot of the Trump lovers on this forum are neither ignorant nor scared. But something about Trump inspired them to spend five years on an obscure message board, pouring their hearts and souls into defending and running cover for Dump.
 
Disagreed, but it's interesting to see you link up with the "fake news" crowd.

I've done nothing of the sort. I've simply referenced a series of seemingly similar stories that got extremely different coverage in the corporate news. And I could do the same all day..... like the corporate news outlets making Juanita Broaddrick a household name, while leaving Margie Schoedinger in obscurity (Broadrick accused Clinton of raping her, though she swore under oath he never actually did; Schoedinger filed a police report accusing Bush of raping her).

IMO the factor missing here is that all media is a business first. The old maxims apply: "If it bleeds it leads" and "Sex, Violence and Controversy are bestsellers".

Yes, that's true. But how that business works matters. Like Fox News has a business model focused on shamelessly partisan coverage from the right-wing perspective. The outlets I'm talking about have a business model that relies on being perceived as impartial. But the way they create that perception is with roughly equal amounts of negative coverage of each side. That would, in fact, be even-handed if there were roughly equal amounts of negative material on each side. The problem, though, comes when you've got one side serving up scandal through a fire hose, while the other only dribbles it out.... when, for example, Donald Trump has 25+ women accusing him of sexual impropriety and Biden has one. Then, to create the illusion of even-handedness, they have to give 25+ times as much coverage to that one Biden story as any of the various Trump ones.

To your point, yes, they absolutely are in it to make a buck, and that explains why a school shooting with 22 dead is getting vast coverage while COVID is even now killing that many Americans every hour and a half and yet is treated as a story that's basically over.
 
The thing about it is, all Trump lovers are not ignorant and scared. A lot of the Trump lovers on this forum are neither ignorant nor scared. But something about Trump inspired them to spend five years on an obscure message board, pouring their hearts and souls into defending and running cover for Dump.

Again, disagreed. I'll agree that several Pedo Party leaders are taking advantage of this situation and fanning the flames of fear, hate and bigotry.

Consider the Insurrection. 2/3s of those arrested had previous mental issues. Anyone who is a member of Qanon is either a liar taking advantage of the situation or, more probably, a wackadoodle being manipulated by malicious people.

Consider Unions; now apparently universally despised by both Left and Right per recent multiple JPP discussions. What better way for corporate leaders to break unions than to turn them against each other?

Likewise, what better way for the rich and powerful to maintain their positions than to turn Americans against each other? All of these wedge issues are by design. It's why they are wedge issues.

As for Trump, he's never invented anything. He only takes advantage of others. His presidential run and presidency took advantage of haters, fear and ignorance.
 
I've done nothing of the sort. I've simply referenced a series of seemingly similar stories that got extremely different coverage in the corporate news. And I could do the same all day..... like the corporate news outlets making Juanita Broaddrick a household name, while leaving Margie Schoedinger in obscurity (Broadrick accused Clinton of raping her, though she swore under oath he never actually did; Schoedinger filed a police report accusing Bush of raping her).



Yes, that's true. But how that business works matters. Like Fox News has a business model focused on shamelessly partisan coverage from the right-wing perspective. The outlets I'm talking about have a business model that relies on being perceived as impartial. But the way they create that perception is with roughly equal amounts of negative coverage of each side. That would, in fact, be even-handed if there were roughly equal amounts of negative material on each side. The problem, though, comes when you've got one side serving up scandal through a fire hose, while the other only dribbles it out.... when, for example, Donald Trump has 25+ women accusing him of sexual impropriety and Biden has one. Then, to create the illusion of even-handedness, they have to give 25+ times as much coverage to that one Biden story as any of the various Trump ones.

To your point, yes, they absolutely are in it to make a buck, and that explains why a school shooting with 22 dead is getting vast coverage while COVID is even now killing that many Americans every hour and a half and yet is treated as a story that's basically over.

Agreed. Once their perspective is understood, then what news is being broadcast can be taken in context. This is why, on big events like the Uvalde massacre, I switch between networks to gain a bigger perspective of where they are being driven.

To be clear: Money drives Cable News. Cable News excites the public. The most excitable members of the public are usually not the most educated, most mature, most fearless or most sane...but they do make good "Newz". LOL
 
Agreed. Once their perspective is understood, then what news is being broadcast can be taken in context. This is why, on big events like the Uvalde massacre, I switch between networks to gain a bigger perspective of where they are being driven.

To be clear: Money drives Cable News. Cable News excites the public. The most excitable members of the public are usually not the most educated, most mature, most fearless or most sane...but they do make good "Newz". LOL

In my own case, I tend to be drawn more to the "big picture" stories... the ones I can reasonably see having an impact on a huge portion of the population, like COVID or Ukraine. I'm less prone to comment on something like school shootings because, although they are horribly tragic for those involved, in the big picture, they're just not that consequential. Like the annual average of kids shot at school is something around 30 or 40... which is really bad compared to other countries, but, again, is like a few hours of COVID.

Or consider the vast coverage given to celebrity stories, like Britney Spears's legal fight with her father, or Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard. You'll notice I tend to avoid those threads entirely, unless it be in an attempt to move the conversation from those details to a wider story that has broader sociological implications.
 
In my own case, I tend to be drawn more to the "big picture" stories... the ones I can reasonably see having an impact on a huge portion of the population, like COVID or Ukraine. I'm less prone to comment on something like school shootings because, although they are horribly tragic for those involved, in the big picture, they're just not that consequential. Like the annual average of kids shot at school is something around 30 or 40... which is really bad compared to other countries, but, again, is like a few hours of COVID.

Or consider the vast coverage given to celebrity stories, like Britney Spears's legal fight with her father, or Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard. You'll notice I tend to avoid those threads entirely, unless it be in an attempt to move the conversation from those details to a wider story that has broader sociological implications.

Agreed on Big Picture topics. OTOH, notice that the viewing public is more drawn to the "Sex, violence and controversy" aspect as shown with Depp/Heard and Uvalde. The advertisers won't pay big bucks for "serious" shows with a small audience compared to shows that have bomb-throwing news anchors with large audiences like Don Lemon and Tucker Carlson.
 
Hello Mina,

Paradoxically, it may be better for a politician to hand the press a steady stream of negative story opportunities, rather than starve them, such that they obsessively cover just a few negative stories.

Take two Democratic "gaffes" that got obsessive coverage:

(1) Hillary Clinton gave a speech that, in context, was arguing that liberals should take the concerns of Trump supporters seriously, since half of them were just people who'd been poorly served by government.... but the media fixated on one out-of-context line where she said the other half were a basket of deplorables, and they practically turned that into the catch-phrase of her campaign. It became such a big deal that there are multiple poli-sci books focused on it, and to this day there's a wide range of "deplorables" merchandise available for right-wingers.

(2) Obama had a similar moment, when he gave a speech that included a line about working class people in old industrial towns being bitter and clinging to guns... a line the media used to portray him as an elitist, and which they're still taking out for a spin in the wake of the latest mass shooting.

For the most part, Clinton and Obama were cautious speakers who avoided any obviously offensive lines, so when they served up a rare nugget that could be taken out of context and fitted into the media's narrative about the Democrats being arrogant and condescending, those became constant refrains in the corporate media for years.

Now compare that to Donald Trump. You can look at the transcript of a single MAGA rally speech and find more gaffes on that scale than you'd find looking through Obama's and Clinton's whole careers. Every few lines Trump would spew the kind of statement that, if it had come from a Democrat, would be treated as such a misstep that it would have place of prominence in his obituary. Like, do you think Democrats are snobby elitists who look down on people from the other side of the political aisle? How about this rancid red meat Trump served up to a MAGA crowd:

"We got more money, we got more brains, we got better houses, apartments, we got nicer boats, we’re smarter than they are.... We’re the elite. You’re the elite. We’re the elite."

That kind of shameless, boastful elitism would be the death knell for a Democrat's career, but for Trump, it just blended into the background noise and was promptly forgotten.

It's not just gaffes, either. Consider sex scandals. Biden and Trump each had a very similar sex scandal: each was accused by a former acquaintance of having reached under her skirt, back in the 1990's, and having groped her, without consent. But in the media, you will find literally 20 times more material about Tara Reade, and her accusation against Biden, than about Kristin Anderson, and her nearly identical accusation against Trump. The mainstream outlets did one major story after another, during the 2020 campaign, about Reade's claim, for months on end. Anderson, if she got mentioned at all, usually just had her name tacked onto a long list of names of various women who'd made assorted sexual impropriety claims against Trump.

Or consider the huge amount of coverage of the USS Cole, during the Clinton years. A US navy ship was put in harm's way by the president and ended up getting hit with a deadly attack. The media held that security failure against Clinton with months of obsessive coverage. Compare it to the number of stories about the attack on the USS Stark, in the Reagan years -- when a US navy ship was put in harm's way by the president and ended up getting hit with a deadly attack. That got a few news cycles then basically vanished down the memory whole. Google "USS Stark attack" and you get 1,500 hits. "USS Cole attack" gives you 15,500. The Stark attack had a body count over twice as high, but the Cole got over ten times the attention. Or compare, say, the deadly attack on our consulate in Benghazi in the Obama years to the multiple deadlier attacks on our consulate in Karachi in the Bush years. Karachi almost immediately became obscure trivia, while Benghazi was treated by the media as one of the biggest stories in the world for four years.

I think what happens is that the media takes their impartiality mandate as a requirement to do equal amounts of negative coverage for both sides, regardless of what each side is doing. So, if Trump is alleged to have assaulted 20 women and you do 100 stories on that, and Biden is alleged to have assaulted one woman, you have to do 100 stories on that, too. If Trump says 100 things that insult Democratic voters and you do 100 stories on that, and Clinton says one thing that insults Republicans voters, you have to do 100 stories on that, too.

You'd think that would still be better for the Democrats, since voters would realize there are fresh screwups and offensive comments from the right every day, whereas the media's forced to beat the same dead horse for Democrats for months on end. But I'm not sure. I think maybe when you hear constantly changing negative stuff, it just kind of blends into the background and doesn't end up defining anyone, whereas when you hear the same thing over and over for months on end, it is almost like brain-washing, where it turns into an automatic response when you hear a name.

It works almost like a commercial jingle. The same way you might reflexively think "Just Do It" when you see Nike, you can immediately think "Benghazi" when you see Clinton, simply because they've been paired constantly in the media for years. That's why, for example, utter trivia like Al Gore bragging about his role in facilitating the development of the Internet became almost a knee-jerk reaction when people hear his name ("oh yeah, he 'invented the Internet." Hahaa!")

What do you think when I say "Elizabeth Warren"?

I'm willing to bet one of the first things that popped into your mind is the fact she claimed Native American heritage (which she actually has, but distantly enough that many think it's unseemly for her to mention it). That's one of the core features of her political "brand," like it or not. It's one of her only clear vulnerabilities, so the media covered it exhaustively year after year, and that ingrained it in the public mind as a defining fact about her. It's like an advertising jingle that automatically pops into your mind when her name comes up, thanks to sheer repetition in the media.

Now how about Donald Trump? He also lied about his ancestry. In order to try to get more favorable treatment for a business deal in Germany, he said his father was born in Germany, which he knew was untrue. But he's said it over and over again in contexts where he thought it might benefit him. It was a willful lie about ancestry in pursuit of a career edge (the very thing Warren is wrongly accused of), and yet how far down the list of facts about Trump would that fall for you, if you were to start listing? Warren's vulnerability is an isolated one, so the media turned it into her defining characteristic, whereas Trump's is just lost in the noise of his constant misconduct and does him absolutely no political harm.

So, yes, maybe screwing up more often is safer, politically. It's the difference between harmless background noise and a defining media characterization.

Totally spot on.

Democrats get hammered harder for screw ups.

Republicans get a free pass. They make fun and joke about being called deplorable like it's a badge of honor.

And no big name Democrat ever called all Republicans deplorable.

Republicans are great at making straw men. They take any story and embellish it into Republican-speak, twisting it to their favor, and their crowd just eats it up like honey.
 
Hello Mina,

Yes. I think shared hatred is the strongest social glue. For a long time, political scribblers imagined that undereducated older white middle-American types disliked Democrats because they thought they were elitists or braggarts or libertines. But then Trump came along, with a level of open elitism and braggadocio never seen in American politics, and a shamelessly libertine lifestyle, and they loved him. They don't care that Trump is a vain and vicious man. They just care that he hates the same people they hate. Trump is a megaphone for hatred of various minorities and perceived political enemies, and that make him their favorite politician.

Spot on. Without the hatred vote, Republicans would be winning practically nothing.
 
Hello Mina,

I've done nothing of the sort. I've simply referenced a series of seemingly similar stories that got extremely different coverage in the corporate news. And I could do the same all day..... like the corporate news outlets making Juanita Broaddrick a household name, while leaving Margie Schoedinger in obscurity (Broadrick accused Clinton of raping her, though she swore under oath he never actually did; Schoedinger filed a police report accusing Bush of raping her).



Yes, that's true. But how that business works matters. Like Fox News has a business model focused on shamelessly partisan coverage from the right-wing perspective. The outlets I'm talking about have a business model that relies on being perceived as impartial. But the way they create that perception is with roughly equal amounts of negative coverage of each side. That would, in fact, be even-handed if there were roughly equal amounts of negative material on each side. The problem, though, comes when you've got one side serving up scandal through a fire hose, while the other only dribbles it out.... when, for example, Donald Trump has 25+ women accusing him of sexual impropriety and Biden has one. Then, to create the illusion of even-handedness, they have to give 25+ times as much coverage to that one Biden story as any of the various Trump ones.

To your point, yes, they absolutely are in it to make a buck, and that explains why a school shooting with 22 dead is getting vast coverage while COVID is even now killing that many Americans every hour and a half and yet is treated as a story that's basically over.

There is the matter of giving the audience what they are most attracted to. The rumor mill of the right picks up on these things. The rocket through social media. Savvy media presents the stories people are interested in, even if that interest is not fact-based.

So you're both really correct. They are doing what makes them the most money, and that means feeding the rumor-mill of the right to one degree or another if they want the attention of those minds to be part of their viewership. Fox totally claims a large share of that.
 
Hello Mina,



There is the matter of giving the audience what they are most attracted to. The rumor mill of the right picks up on these things. The rocket through social media. Savvy media presents the stories people are interested in, even if that interest is not fact-based.

So you're both really correct. They are doing what makes them the most money, and that means feeding the rumor-mill of the right to one degree or another if they want the attention of those minds to be part of their viewership. Fox totally claims a large share of that.

I would say that one little wrinkle there is that the right has the infrastructure with which to make its own market. David Brock (who used to be part of that noise machine) wrote a whole book about how it works. Basically, the right has "captive media," which doesn't actually have to make money. It's either run as personal empires by individual billionaires, or it's funded by lots of family fortunes. Those captive outlets can take a story that the public doesn't currently know or care about, and just hammer it over and over and over, until the mainstream outlets feel the need to "report the controversy," and thus is crosses over into the mainstream (even batshit crazy stuff like QAnon). It starts out with the Heritage Foundation, or Breitbart, PJMedia, or Fox News, and then after they've obsessed over it long enough, NYT, CNN, etc. basically accept that as if the right were their assignment editors, and start reporting on it as well.

That's how utter trivia, like Clinton using personal email for work, turns into a single-minded obsession even of mainstream reporters. It's not like there was anything particularly juicy about that story. It's a bone-dry IT setup story that impacts nobody and totally lacks sex and violence. There's a reason it had to be pushed for weeks in the conservative captive media before the mainstream outlets bit. But if they're just tireless enough about it, they can basically dictate terms to the mainstream media. Pretend something like that is a big story for long enough, and no matter how dull the story, eventually the mainstream outlets will join in the charade.
 
Hello Mina,

I would say that one little wrinkle there is that the right has the infrastructure with which to make its own market. David Brock (who used to be part of that noise machine) wrote a whole book about how it works. Basically, the right has "captive media," which doesn't actually have to make money. It's either run as personal empires by individual billionaires, or it's funded by lots of family fortunes. Those captive outlets can take a story that the public doesn't currently know or care about, and just hammer it over and over and over, until the mainstream outlets feel the need to "report the controversy," and thus is crosses over into the mainstream (even batshit crazy stuff like QAnon). It starts out with the Heritage Foundation, or Breitbart, PJMedia, or Fox News, and then after they've obsessed over it long enough, NYT, CNN, etc. basically accept that as if the right were their assignment editors, and start reporting on it as well.

That's how utter trivia, like Clinton using personal email for work, turns into a single-minded obsession even of mainstream reporters. It's not like there was anything particularly juicy about that story. It's a bone-dry IT setup story that impacts nobody and totally lacks sex and violence. There's a reason it had to be pushed for weeks in the conservative captive media before the mainstream outlets bit. But if they're just tireless enough about it, they can basically dictate terms to the mainstream media. Pretend something like that is a big story for long enough, and no matter how dull the story, eventually the mainstream outlets will join in the charade.

So true. It goes back to the 60's, Ralph Nader and GM's Corvair. 'Unsafe At Any Speed' was Nader's work. The public could make a lot of trouble for a corporation back then, and the media was complicit. The Powell Memo was written in response to it, advice on how the oligarchy could control the message and public image of big business, which between GM and Big Tobacco, was getting a bad rap in the media then.

The Powell Memo wasn't meant to be public, but it got leaked. It probably didn't matter because it had already been circulated to those rich and powerful who acted on it to create the Heritage Foundation, ALEC and other such groups. And the general public is too poorly informed to see the big picture or know enough to care.

Once big money began to spend on image control the balance of power shifted. It's really one of the major factors in Republican power.
 
Paradoxically, it may be better for a politician to hand the press a steady stream of negative story opportunities, rather than starve them, such that they obsessively cover just a few negative stories.

Take two Democratic "gaffes" that got obsessive coverage:

(1) Hillary Clinton gave a speech that, in context, was arguing that liberals should take the concerns of Trump supporters seriously, since half of them were just people who'd been poorly served by government.... but the media fixated on one out-of-context line where she said the other half were a basket of deplorables, and they practically turned that into the catch-phrase of her campaign. It became such a big deal that there are multiple poli-sci books focused on it, and to this day there's a wide range of "deplorables" merchandise available for right-wingers.

(2) Obama had a similar moment, when he gave a speech that included a line about working class people in old industrial towns being bitter and clinging to guns... a line the media used to portray him as an elitist, and which they're still taking out for a spin in the wake of the latest mass shooting.

For the most part, Clinton and Obama were cautious speakers who avoided any obviously offensive lines, so when they served up a rare nugget that could be taken out of context and fitted into the media's narrative about the Democrats being arrogant and condescending, those became constant refrains in the corporate media for years.

Now compare that to Donald Trump. You can look at the transcript of a single MAGA rally speech and find more gaffes on that scale than you'd find looking through Obama's and Clinton's whole careers. Every few lines Trump would spew the kind of statement that, if it had come from a Democrat, would be treated as such a misstep that it would have place of prominence in his obituary. Like, do you think Democrats are snobby elitists who look down on people from the other side of the political aisle? How about this rancid red meat Trump served up to a MAGA crowd:

"We got more money, we got more brains, we got better houses, apartments, we got nicer boats, we’re smarter than they are.... We’re the elite. You’re the elite. We’re the elite."

That kind of shameless, boastful elitism would be the death knell for a Democrat's career, but for Trump, it just blended into the background noise and was promptly forgotten.

It's not just gaffes, either. Consider sex scandals. Biden and Trump each had a very similar sex scandal: each was accused by a former acquaintance of having reached under her skirt, back in the 1990's, and having groped her, without consent. But in the media, you will find literally 20 times more material about Tara Reade, and her accusation against Biden, than about Kristin Anderson, and her nearly identical accusation against Trump. The mainstream outlets did one major story after another, during the 2020 campaign, about Reade's claim, for months on end. Anderson, if she got mentioned at all, usually just had her name tacked onto a long list of names of various women who'd made assorted sexual impropriety claims against Trump.

Or consider the huge amount of coverage of the USS Cole, during the Clinton years. A US navy ship was put in harm's way by the president and ended up getting hit with a deadly attack. The media held that security failure against Clinton with months of obsessive coverage. Compare it to the number of stories about the attack on the USS Stark, in the Reagan years -- when a US navy ship was put in harm's way by the president and ended up getting hit with a deadly attack. That got a few news cycles then basically vanished down the memory whole. Google "USS Stark attack" and you get 1,500 hits. "USS Cole attack" gives you 15,500. The Stark attack had a body count over twice as high, but the Cole got over ten times the attention. Or compare, say, the deadly attack on our consulate in Benghazi in the Obama years to the multiple deadlier attacks on our consulate in Karachi in the Bush years. Karachi almost immediately became obscure trivia, while Benghazi was treated by the media as one of the biggest stories in the world for four years.

I think what happens is that the media takes their impartiality mandate as a requirement to do equal amounts of negative coverage for both sides, regardless of what each side is doing. So, if Trump is alleged to have assaulted 20 women and you do 100 stories on that, and Biden is alleged to have assaulted one woman, you have to do 100 stories on that, too. If Trump says 100 things that insult Democratic voters and you do 100 stories on that, and Clinton says one thing that insults Republicans voters, you have to do 100 stories on that, too.

You'd think that would still be better for the Democrats, since voters would realize there are fresh screwups and offensive comments from the right every day, whereas the media's forced to beat the same dead horse for Democrats for months on end. But I'm not sure. I think maybe when you hear constantly changing negative stuff, it just kind of blends into the background and doesn't end up defining anyone, whereas when you hear the same thing over and over for months on end, it is almost like brain-washing, where it turns into an automatic response when you hear a name.

It works almost like a commercial jingle. The same way you might reflexively think "Just Do It" when you see Nike, you can immediately think "Benghazi" when you see Clinton, simply because they've been paired constantly in the media for years. That's why, for example, utter trivia like Al Gore bragging about his role in facilitating the development of the Internet became almost a knee-jerk reaction when people hear his name ("oh yeah, he 'invented the Internet." Hahaa!")

What do you think when I say "Elizabeth Warren"?

I'm willing to bet one of the first things that popped into your mind is the fact she claimed Native American heritage (which she actually has, but distantly enough that many think it's unseemly for her to mention it). That's one of the core features of her political "brand," like it or not. It's one of her only clear vulnerabilities, so the media covered it exhaustively year after year, and that ingrained it in the public mind as a defining fact about her. It's like an advertising jingle that automatically pops into your mind when her name comes up, thanks to sheer repetition in the media.

Now how about Donald Trump? He also lied about his ancestry. In order to try to get more favorable treatment for a business deal in Germany, he said his father was born in Germany, which he knew was untrue. But he's said it over and over again in contexts where he thought it might benefit him. It was a willful lie about ancestry in pursuit of a career edge (the very thing Warren is wrongly accused of), and yet how far down the list of facts about Trump would that fall for you, if you were to start listing? Warren's vulnerability is an isolated one, so the media turned it into her defining characteristic, whereas Trump's is just lost in the noise of his constant misconduct and does him absolutely no political harm.

So, yes, maybe screwing up more often is safer, politically. It's the difference between harmless background noise and a defining media characterization.

What you are missing is that lying and fabrication are part of Trump’s shtick, it is done largely by design, or at least with little concern for repercussion. Remember early on the “alternative facts” argument, all of that was scripted, it was inane, but swallowed by the majority on the right

You have to give Murdoch credit, he knew creating the “fair and balance” dichotomy created an avenue to muddle the facts, plant innuendo which soon became fact, there was an audience wanting to believe something other than what they were unwilling to accept. With the foundation there, Trump, using his media experience, just took it to another level

None of that would work for a Democrat
 
What you are missing is that lying and fabrication are part of Trump’s shtick, it is done largely by design, or at least with little concern for repercussion. Remember early on the “alternative facts” argument, all of that was scripted, it was inane, but swallowed by the majority on the right

You have to give Murdoch credit, he knew creating the “fair and balance” dichotomy created an avenue to muddle the facts, plant innuendo which soon became fact, there was an audience wanting to believe something other than what they were unwilling to accept. With the foundation there, Trump, using his media experience, just took it to another level

None of that would work for a Democrat

Part of the problem, I think, is that the corporate press applies very different standards. Dems are expected to be perfect, and if they say something problematic (even if only when deprived of context) it's treated as a scandal (like the deplorables comment). Republicans are allowed to get away with basically anything (imagine the outrage if Clinton or Obama had spewed those "we got nicer boats" lines!)

It reminds me of a friend of the family who was a ref for kids basketball games. He had to ref his niece's game and they got blown out, thanks mostly to him calling every possible foul against them while letting the other team get away with murder. He was so afraid of looking biased for his niece that he basically handed her opponent the win uncontested. I think part of what we see with the mainstream press is the result of Republicans "working the refs" for decades. They've pushed so hard on the idea that he mainstream news is biased for the Democrats that, in fact, the mainstream news whistles phantom fouls all day against the Dems, while letting the Republicans do whatever they feel like.
 
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