Is Socialism inevitable

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Wilhelm Zenz

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People tried to fly for thousands of years for thousands of years peasants revolted from kings and emperors that enslaved them, the first successful revolt was really the French Revolution and even that was a blood bath of pain and failure, at first
but look how far society has come since that event, there was an explosion of creativity and invention we did learn to fly we even made it to the moon ...what does the future hold.. do we keep failing till we succeed, is that insane/ or is that just how it works?
 
Yes, Socialism is inevitable. The sub-white races are too stupid to understand how bad socialism is and they're too covetous to care. So, with the growth of sub-white races, socialism will grow.

Yes, the nig brain is too small to understand why punishing workers and rewarding free-loaders drags a society down to the third world, and incinerates our freedoms in the process.
 
Bobb said:
Yes, Socialism is inevitable. The sub-white races are too stupid to understand how bad socialism is and they're too covetous to care. So, with the growth of sub-white races, socialism will grow.

Yes, the nig brain is too small to understand why punishing workers and rewarding free-loaders drags a society down to the third world, and incinerates our freedoms in the process.
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Cultsmasher? Is that you?
 
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.
Alexander Fraser Tyler

Yup.
 
Celticguy said:
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.
Alexander Fraser Tyler

Yup.
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That may be true, but I wonder how much of a game changer technology is. In the past, it has always been hard to survive and hard to get knowledge. Now, it's easy to survive (100x productivity in recent decades) and trivial to get knowledge (Internet). Technology can pay for a lot of bad economics.
 
Bobb said:
That may be true, but I wonder how much of a game changer technology is. In the past, it has always been hard to survive and hard to get knowledge. Now, it's easy to survive (100x productivity in recent decades) and trivial to get knowledge (Internet). Technology can pay for a lot of bad economics.
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Nothing changes this. Its human nature.
 
Wilhelm Zenz said:
People tried to fly for thousands of years for thousands of years peasants revolted from kings and emperors that enslaved them, the first successful revolt was really the French Revolution and even that was a blood bath of pain and failure, at first
but look how far society has come since that event, there was an explosion of creativity and invention we did learn to fly we even made it to the moon ...what does the future hold.. do we keep failing till we succeed, is that insane/ or is that just how it works?
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Yes,the masses are smarting up their labor,is making the 1% rich.
 
Celticguy said:
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.
Alexander Fraser Tyler

Yup.
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^^^^ There is no reliable record of Alexander Tyler ever having written any part of the text.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-fall-of-the-athenian-republic/
 
Wilhelm Zenz said:
is racism allowed here? and how do you explain white nations that have socialsim like norway? and sweden?
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Norway and Sweden are really welfare states, not socialist states. For example, The Swedish government pays for whatever school you want to go to, but doesn't run the school. Sweden ranks 15th among the freest markets in the world, the US ranks 18.

I argued earlier that modern technology can pay for a lot of socialism. White skin can also pay for a lot of socialism. But, socialism still very much sucks. I'd prefer better spend technology and white skin dividends.
 
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Bobb said:
Norway and Sweden are really welfare states, not socialist states. For example, The Swedish government pays for whatever school you want to go to, but doesn't run the school. Sweden ranks 15th among the freest markets in the world, the US ranks 18.

I argued earlier that modern technology can pay for a lot of socialism. White skin can also pay for a lot of socialism. But, socialism still very much sucks. I'd prefer better spend technology and white skin dividends.
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According to Republicans and conservatives, western Europe, Scandinavia, Sweden, Norway, Germany, France, Netherlands, Denmark are socialist.

Therefore, according to Republicans, if you want an example of socialism look to Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany, France, or Holland.

Leading Republicans Refer to Western Europe as "Socialists"
....(and let's not forget, rightwing message boarders have spent years calling western Europe "socialist")......
Lately it seems that not a day goes by without a Republican presidential candidate portraying Europe as a socialist nightmare. Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum paint a picture of the Old World as unfree, strangulated by bureaucratic and inefficient welfare systems, and unable to reform and modernize. To these Republicans, Europe seems to be the antipode to everything America is meant to be.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.310f3f267a8a

Leading Republicans Call Western Europe "Socialist"
Newt Gingrich has constantly accused the president of being a "European Socialist", often adding in a reference to an all-but-forgotten community activist from Chicago, who died in 1972, but whose Democratic-leaning writings are thought to have influenced the current president
"I am for the Declaration of Independence; he is for the writing of Saul Alinsky. I am for the Constitution; he is for European socialism," Mr Gingrich told voters in Florida last week.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16583813

Bill O'Reilly noted rightwing blowhard: Western Europe is basically socialist
"I received a letter from Rhonda Hallett who lives in Jacksonville, North Carolina asking me to define Bernie's doctrine of Democratic socialism. Ok. That's basically what some countries in western Europe have, a political system that limits personal income through taxation in return for cradle to grave payouts from the governments. That's the trade."
http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/02/14...atic-socialism

Vice President Mike Pence is on record referring to western Europe as "socialist".
when Representative Mike Pence, Republican of Indiana, denounced “European-style socialism,” in his speech at the conference on Thursday, the jeers from the crowd did not exactly signal an openness to debate it on the merits.
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/01/w...leibovich.html

European socialism taking root in US, Fox News's Stuart Varney says
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...us-varney-says
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Here is another way to consider this against the current encroachment of demagoguery and uncivilized barbarism among 45, his antigovernment conspiring cronies, foreign uncivilized and ignorant savages and ignorance in society, hopefully what is inevitable is the ability of humanity to overcome this latest threat on their social existence. This is when it comes to evolving to become a more civilized, informed, well connected global society in order to ensure humanity, its well being, prosperity and relations has a chance to survive another 100 years against current efforts from the down low to destroy the common decency of humanity and its future at promoting the uncivilized nature of ignorance, hate and violence.
 
Socialism and capitalism do not exist. Every country is a mix. We are discussing how much of the mix belongs in the pockets of the top 1 percent.
 
Nordberg said:
Socialism and capitalism do not exist. Every country is a mix. We are discussing how much of the mix belongs in the pockets of the top 1 percent.
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Thank you, you fcking moron, to point out that mathematical perfection exists only on paper.
 
Wilhelm Zenz said:
People tried to fly for thousands of years for thousands of years peasants revolted from kings and emperors that enslaved them, the first successful revolt was really the French Revolution and even that was a blood bath of pain and failure, at first
but look how far society has come since that event, there was an explosion of creativity and invention we did learn to fly we even made it to the moon ...what does the future hold.. do we keep failing till we succeed, is that insane/ or is that just how it works?
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There's always going to be a certain element that thinks the people are too dumb to govern themselves. Madison wrote about this. Today we call them Democrats.
 
Cypress said:
According to Republicans and conservatives, western Europe, Scandinavia, Sweden, Norway, Germany, France, Netherlands, Denmark are socialist.

Therefore, according to Republicans, if you want an example of socialism look to Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany, France, or Holland.
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Yes, they word "socialism" is thrown around by Republicans about Europe. That just makes them wrong, not me.
 
Bobb said:
Thank you, you fcking moron, to point out that mathematical perfection exists only on paper.
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Typical righty, childish insults are what you bring. It is not mathematical. It is simply a reality. All the Scandinavian countries are capitalistic. They allow a certain amount of the countries wealth to help the masses. Schools are theoretically a boon to the future of the country. America does not provide a government college system. It is for profit. That is why it is ridiculously expensive and shuts out a huge portion of its citizens from educational advancement. Many countries provide education. That is not welfare. That is good for the country as a whole.
 
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