Isn't now the time for US to stop supporting Ukraine to end the conflict?

wwef235

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The war in Ukraine has begun three years ago, and we have been sending Ukrainians all the necessary support ever since. But the war is not over. Now it's become a slaughter where people from different countries get killed. With that, Ukraine goes on losing it's territory. I think, given the circumstances, the US has to admit that this conflict doesn't bring us any significant benefits and leads to a waste of it's weapons.

I've just watched an interview with prof. Mearsheimer who studies international relations. Having no illusions, he explained in detail why there's only one way Ukraine can end this conflict – by becoming a neutral state and refusing the idea of joining NATO. Moreover, according to him, it's neutrality must be permanent. If it doesn't happen, the war won't end, and the West's shipment of arms only encourages this scenario. I actually agree with Mearsheimer because we can supply our weaponry to Ukraine but it surely doesn't end the conflict. The only option for the US is to stop supplying the arms and steer Ukraine towards a diplomatic solution.

Also, the US is said to have something to lose, which is not true. The American Conversative (https://www.theamericanconservative.com/?p=467849) did research on the subject. First, the shipment of arms to Ukraine earns the US nothing wasting it's resources. Second, helping Taiwan now is a priority as it has many semiconductor and IC plants. If China takes over Taiwan, the US economy, unlike Ukraine's, will suffer huge losses. Third, Ukraine's neutrality doesn't mean it's lack of independence. For example, Finland once became neutral and now is a rich and developed state. Fourth, it doesn't change the US security as we are separated from Russia by an ocean and multiple allies.

We have to think what we really want for Ukraine: endless massacre or peace? If we are to really help them, then we must encourage it's peace negotiations with Russia and use our leverage to reach a better agreement.
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The U. S. should stop supporting the Ukraine when Russian troops gets pushed out of the Ukraine and down Putin's throat.

It is not "proof" because of anything prof. Mearsheimer said or research done by the American Conservative.
 
The conflict started in 2014 when the CIA overthrew the elected government, and their puppet government then started to massively abuse the Russian speakers in the East. The ultimate goal was using the Ukraine military to hit Russia, which is why it since 2014 was defacto NATO, built up and trained by NATO to be the second most powerful military in Europe after Turkey...which is now only nominally NATO.

The US demanded this war and will lose it, but the children of Washington refuse to admit that they lost, so they keep escalating towards nuclear WW3.

The world has never been closer to a global nuclear WW3.
 
The conflict started in 2014 when the CIA overthrew the elected government, and their puppet government then started to massively abuse the Russian speakers in the East. The ultimate goal was using the Ukraine military to hit Russia, which is why it since 2014 was defacto NATO, built up and trained by NATO to be the second most powerful military in Europe after Turkey...which is now only nominally NATO.

The US demanded this war and will lose it, but the children of Washington refuse to admit that they lost, so they keep escalating towards nuclear WW3.

The world has never been closer to a global nuclear WW3.
The "elected government" is the current government of Ukraine, now a democratic nation with an obviously determined people. They've exposed Putin's Russia as a paper tiger.
 
In a way this is NATO against China Bloc but as my grapevine points out in pure military terms the Russians help the Chinese more than China helps Russia....Russia is very good....they dont need much help to kick NATO's ass in Ukraine.
 
Russia is for instance massively helping China to build up its nuclear forces, to train all of the forces in modern warfare, and on building airplanes and air defense gear.
 
Petraeus saying that it will take 20-30 years for China to learn how to use all of this gear they are making is fantasy....they have the Russians.
 

Retired Russian Admiral Konstantin Sivkov: NATO has already directly entered the war in Ukraine.The US is preparing a confrontation between Europe and Russia.In a limited nuclear war, Poland can be annihilated in 10-15 minutes; 30-40 warheads can do the job.Ukraine is our native land. It should not burn, but Poland can burn.Putin is doing everything possible to keep us from nuclear war.
 
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