Its all OBAMA's Fault!

I guess by Dixie's measure Reagan was a terrable president for his first two or three years as the economy was shit!
 
Jarod said:
People did not blame Bush for anything untill his last three years.
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Damn dude... when ONEZIES pwns you, THAT is really bad! :eek:

I think the record shows, other than maybe September 11-14, 2001... All Democrats blamed Bush and Cheney for Everything, even stuff they weren't remotely responsible for. Web sites were borne specifically for the purpose of blaming Bush and Cheney, merchandise was sold blaming Bush and Cheney, songs were composed, books were written and movies made, blaming Bush and Cheney... I think they even had an animated cartoon series devoted to blaming Bush and Cheney! This all followed the 2000 election.... you remember, the one Bush stole... Diebold machines... Haliburton... etc.,etc.,etc.!
 
Onceler said:
Not true. I personally blamed Bush for almost everything, because his incompetence resulted in negative consequences in almost every area of domestic & foreign policy.

Dixie's post is entertaining, though. It's like a diary of how much he suffered during the Bush years, doing what Rush admitted...trying to "carry water" for that flunkie.

I'm fine with America judging Obama now, in 2010, in 2012 and in 2016. I'm fairly optimistic about the years ahead....
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I will be happy to have him judged in 2012, I belive we will be in a much better place by then, but of corse they will be saying, "well its cyclical, you cant credit Obama with this!"

or

"This is the result of all the hard work Bush did, Obama should not get credit"!
 
Onceler said:
Not true. I personally blamed Bush for almost everything, because his incompetence resulted in negative consequences in almost every area of domestic & foreign policy.

Dixie's post is entertaining, though. It's like a diary of how much he suffered during the Bush years, doing what Rush admitted...trying to "carry water" for that flunkie.

I'm fine with America judging Obama now, in 2010, in 2012 and in 2016. I'm fairly optimistic about the years ahead....
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LMAO....bush must be the powerful man alive or you're just a wimpy whiner
 
Dixie said:
Damn dude... when ONEZIES pwns you, THAT is really bad! :eek:

I think the record shows, other than maybe September 11-14, 2001... All Democrats blamed Bush and Cheney for Everything, even stuff they weren't remotely responsible for. Web sites were borne specifically for the purpose of blaming Bush and Cheney, merchandise was sold blaming Bush and Cheney, songs were composed, books were written and movies made, blaming Bush and Cheney... I think they even had an animated cartoon series devoted to blaming Bush and Cheney! This all followed the 2000 election.... you remember, the one Bush stole... Diebold machines... Haliburton... etc.,etc.,etc.!
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Dix said, "All Democrats blamed Bush nad Cheny for Everything (sic)..."

How then did Bush have a 90% plus approval rating in October, November, December of 2001 and going into 2002?
 
The thing you guys are missing is that "stuff that Bush and Cheney weren't remotely responsible for" includes everything under the sun, even the recession they caused, the poor management of Katrina/FEMA, and the Iraq war itself.
 
Jarod said:
Dix said, "All Democrats blamed Bush nad Cheny for Everything (sic)..."

How then did Bush have a 90% plus approval rating in October, November, December of 2001 and going into 2002?
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Well I don't know jarhead, why don't you tell us all about how 9 out of 10 people approved of Bush when he was speaking of the Axis of Evil and 'standing with us or against us in this war on terror'? I would like to hear you explain that one to me. Please enlighten me on how the public was almost unanimously satisfied with Bush, Cheney, Powell, and Rumsfeld through 2001 and into 2002, when they were 'making their case' for war in Iraq? Please elaborate on that!
 
Dixie said:
Well I don't know jarhead, why don't you tell us all about how 9 out of 10 people approved of Bush when he was speaking of the Axis of Evil and 'standing with us or against us in this war on terror'? I would like to hear you explain that one to me. Please enlighten me on how the public was almost unanimously satisfied with Bush, Cheney, Powell, and Rumsfeld through 2001 and into 2002, when they were 'making their case' for war in Iraq? Please elaborate on that!
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People are stupit.
*shrug*
 
Well yeah. Patriotic to the point of stupidity I suppose would be more accurate.

Only a few of us saw thru the axis of evil and we must attack Iraq hyperbole.
 
Dixie said:
Well I don't know jarhead, why don't you tell us all about how 9 out of 10 people approved of Bush when he was speaking of the Axis of Evil and 'standing with us or against us in this war on terror'? I would like to hear you explain that one to me. Please enlighten me on how the public was almost unanimously satisfied with Bush, Cheney, Powell, and Rumsfeld through 2001 and into 2002, when they were 'making their case' for war in Iraq? Please elaborate on that!
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Its all true!
 
Onceler said:
People are patriotic. It wouldn't matter who was in office; if the country gets attacked, their rating skyrockets...
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uscitizen said:
Well yeah. Patriotic to the point of stupidity I suppose would be more accurate.

Only a few of us saw thru the axis of evil and we must attack Iraq hyperbole.
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No one "saw through" anything, there was nothing to "see through" and nearly everyone in their right mind (90%) agreed with Bush, that we needed to do something about radical Islamic fanatics and those who facilitate them. And all of you, including your representatives who listened to 90% of their constituency, walked willingly into the Iraq war, because you supported what the president was doing and the actions he was taking. Once the flag-draped coffins started arriving, you ALL bailed on the president, and denied you ever supported this! Suddenly, half of that 90% is trying to claim it was with the 10% all along, that they were never fooled by the hyperbole. I say there is a 90% chance you are lying, if you claim you were among this original 10% who didn't approve of Bush during the lead-up to war.

Regardless of what you conclude there... one of us has held the same consistent position throughout the whole ordeal.... and one of us has changed our mind. In terms of foreign policy, which is the more stupid?

Here's another thing.... If Iraq is such a quagmire we shouldn't be in, why hasn't President Obama withdrawn? Why does he continue to say in speech after speech, that the mission in Iraq is important, that we must finish the job? Why does he continue to tell us how this success is vital to us? It just seems really very ODD to me, if Iraq is such a terrible mistake and fuck up!
 
Dixieland - where those high post 9/11 poll #'s naturally meant that everyone also supported the invasion & occupation of Iraq.

Dixie - it will always be Bush's war. There is nothing you can do or say to change that.

Sorry 'bout that....
 
Dixie said:
No one "saw through" anything, there was nothing to "see through" and nearly everyone in their right mind (90%) agreed with Bush, that we needed to do something about radical Islamic fanatics and those who facilitate them. And all of you, including your representatives who listened to 90% of their constituency, walked willingly into the Iraq war, because you supported what the president was doing and the actions he was taking. Once the flag-draped coffins started arriving, you ALL bailed on the president, and denied you ever supported this! Suddenly, half of that 90% is trying to claim it was with the 10% all along, that they were never fooled by the hyperbole. I say there is a 90% chance you are lying, if you claim you were among this original 10% who didn't approve of Bush during the lead-up to war.

Regardless of what you conclude there... one of us has held the same consistent position throughout the whole ordeal.... and one of us has changed our mind. In terms of foreign policy, which is the more stupid?

Here's another thing.... If Iraq is such a quagmire we shouldn't be in, why hasn't President Obama withdrawn? Why does he continue to say in speech after speech, that the mission in Iraq is important, that we must finish the job? Why does he continue to tell us how this success is vital to us? It just seems really very ODD to me, if Iraq is such a terrible mistake and fuck up!
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Oh, there was plenty to "see through" alright.

The very first time Powell said the administration had rock solid proof that Iraq was involved with 9/11, and had WMD's, but wouldn't show We the People the evidence he claimed backed up his allegations, I KNEW they were lying.


I can still hear their ridiculous excuses: Oh we'd love nothing more than to show the public the photographic evidence to prove our point, but to do so would compromise national security.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Oh, there was plenty to "see through" alright.

The very first time Powell said the administration had rock solid proof that Iraq was involved with 9/11, and had WMD's, but wouldn't show We the People the evidence he claimed backed up his allegations, I KNEW they were lying.


I can still hear their ridiculous excuses: Oh we'd love nothing more than to show the public the photographic evidence to prove our point, but to do so would compromise national security.
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I don't recall any connection between 9/11 and Iraq being made by Colin You-break-you-buy-it Powell! No one in the administration has ever made such a claim regarding 9/11 and Iraq, or Saddam Hussein. There is a mountain of evidence Hussein was compliant in the '93 WTC attack, but not 9/11. Had the Administration ever made such a case, it would have justified going after Iraq before Afghanistan!

The connection WAS made between Iraq and alQaeda (not 9/11)... that IS rock solid, and nothing has ever disputed it. You can argue semantics or micromanage details, but evidence was conclusive there was a connection. To what degree, we are uncertain, and we have found no evidence of corroboration, but none has ever been claimed. Only a connection, and that is not in dispute.

The United Nations, in 1996, documented among other things, over 80,000 liters of VX and Sarin nerve gas, in storage, in Iraq. They tagged it with little blue UN seals, and they routinely inspected to ensure the cache remained sealed. When Saddam had UN inspectors kicked out, we could no longer confirm where these weapons were, if they were secure, or anything about them at all. This was why it was important to get the inspectors back into Iraq, but once that happened, this stockpile, among others, did not exist according to the Iraqis. When pressed on this, Saddam claimed they had been destroyed, but could not give details on where, nor did he have any documentation to support this. To date, we still have no answer to the mystery of the missing WMD's. The CIA has inconclusive photographic evidence, suggesting the WMD's could have been spirited out of Iraq before the US invasion. WHERE the WMD's are, is the question... not the EXISTENCE!
 
Seems like everyone is claiming to be one of the few.... But Bush did get a majority of the votes in 04'.
 
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