It's right there in black and white, can't allow Trump apologists to claim otherwise

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[h=1]"in Cases of Impeachment...the Party convicted shall nevertheless be ...subject to Indictment[/h]It's right there in black and white, clear as day; we can't allow Trump apologists to claim otherwise:

Article 1, Section 3, Clause 7

Judgement in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law.​

In other words, the impeachment itself can result in removal from office; impeachment may be brought in addition to criminal indictment.


 
hi shitstain.

judicial review won't be found in the constitution, but through the power of judicial review, we now have judicial review.

Judicial review says the plain text in the constitution requires Harvard style lawyers to tell us what it means. They are telling you that plain text means something else.

sorry. this is the government you wanted
 
Bourbon said:
[h=1]In other words, the impeachment itself can result in removal from office; impeachment may be brought in addition to criminal indictment.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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Sure, impeachment and conviction does not constitute a criminal prosecution and so a criminal indictment (federal and/or state) can still occur.

This has never been an issue, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. Trump's lawyers are saying he cannot be indicted while he is still president. Many claimed a sitting president could not be sued in a civil case until Paula Jones.
 
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This whole mess that Trumps arrogance is creating, will wind up with the Supremes. Trump claims that the constitution gives him rights that it does not. Nothing said about pardoning himself. But Trump is cranking out pardons to make them seem cheap and no big deal. Then when he does it, the people will not get fired up. That is pretty good thinking. Nearly criminal though.
 
Bourbon said:
[h=1]"in Cases of Impeachment...the Party convicted shall nevertheless be ...subject to Indictment[/h]It's right there in black and white, clear as day; we can't allow Trump apologists to claim otherwise:

Article 1, Section 3, Clause 7

Judgement in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law.​

In other words, the impeachment itself can result in removal from office; impeachment may be brought in addition to criminal indictment.


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When it comes time to vote on impeachment, all members of Congress must use the voting machine this time.
 
Jack said:
So ... he Can Pardon himself ... or he CAN'T Pardon himself?
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No president ever did. It has never been in front of the Supremes. it would likely wind up there., I cannot see ,even the Roberts court, rule for an imperial presidency. The entire constitution is predicated on limiting executive power and the concept of equal branches. The idea is nobody is above the law. trump thinks he is.
 
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