Lawlessness in San Francisco

cawacko

cawacko

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Obviously its easy to get people worked up bringing up SF. But great video of a group of people just walking into Walgreen's in the middle of the day and cleaning out several shelves of goods. The thing is this is a regular occurrence in Walgreen's and CVS's among other stores in the City. I think anything under $950 in stolen goods and you don't get charged.

I think of New York City in the '80's and that they ultimately hit a tipping point in dealing with all the crime and quality of life issues when people finally get fed up and it became one of the safest city's in the country. San Francisco is one of the greatest city's in the world and I've thought for years we would have hit a tipping point. Clearly we are nowhere close.


https://twitter.com/x/status/1234477853170753539
 
cawacko said:
Obviously its easy to get people worked up bringing up SF. But great video of a group of people just walking into Walgreen's in the middle of the day and cleaning out several shelves of goods. The thing is this is a regular occurrence in Walgreen's and CVS's among other stores in the City. I think anything under $950 in stolen goods and you don't get charged.

I think of New York City in the '80's and that they ultimately hit a tipping point in dealing with all the crime and quality of life issues when people finally get fed up and it became one of the safest city's in the country. San Francisco is one of the greatest city's in the world and I've thought for years we would have hit a tipping point. Clearly we are nowhere close.
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It has to come eventually. At some point the city will hit bottom.
 
Celticguy said:
$950 ? WTF ?
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I should have been more clear. If you steal under $950 it's been downgraded from a felony to a misdemeanor. But the reality has been it is very selectively enforced. Essentially if it's under $950 the police will just turn their heads and not deal with it. Hence multiple stores across the City (regularly) experiencing what was in the video.
 
cawacko said:
Obviously its easy to get people worked up bringing up SF. But great video of a group of people just walking into Walgreen's in the middle of the day and cleaning out several shelves of goods. The thing is this is a regular occurrence in Walgreen's and CVS's among other stores in the City. I think anything under $950 in stolen goods and you don't get charged.

I think of New York City in the '80's and that they ultimately hit a tipping point in dealing with all the crime and quality of life issues when people finally get fed up and it became one of the safest city's in the country. San Francisco is one of the greatest city's in the world and I've thought for years we would have hit a tipping point. Clearly we are nowhere close.


https://twitter.com/x/status/1234477853170753539
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I know you're coward ass wont answer, but how did it become one of the safest cities in the country?
 
Anecdote Alert:

At the grocery store where I do most of my shopping, a chain owned by Kroger, shoplifters were in line ahead of me. The cashier said, "They hit us hard. We have to let them do it; we aren't allowed to stop them. All we can do is write it off."
 
Controlled Opposition said:
Anecdote Alert:

At the grocery store where I do most of my shopping, a chain owned by Kroger, shoplifters were in line ahead of me. The cashier said, "They hit us hard. We have to let them do it; we aren't allowed to stop them. All we can do is write it off."
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I can't imagine stores want employees to physically confront thieves. Ultimately you'd have to put armed guards in every store and that's a huge expense (although my be minimal compared to the amount they are losing in goods).
 
cawacko said:
I can't imagine stores want employees to physically confront thieves. Ultimately you'd have to put armed guards in every store and that's a huge expense (although my be minimal compared to the amount they are losing in goods).
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The potential liabilities are higher than the losses. The shoplifters I mentioned were, at least, more subtle than the ones featured in your video. In both cases, there was no fear of consequences.
 
cawacko said:
I should have been more clear. If you steal under $950 it's been downgraded from a felony to a misdemeanor. But the reality has been it is very selectively enforced. Essentially if it's under $950 the police will just turn their heads and not deal with it. Hence multiple stores across the City (regularly) experiencing what was in the video.
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Holy crap.... how do they stay in business ?
 
cawacko said:
Walgreen's has closed multiple stores in SF and as the article states it's because of theft which they're saying was $1K/day. And there are very real effects, as the article states these stores were where many low income and disabled seniors got their medication and now they have to travel much further to do so.


https://hoodline.com/2020/02/why-are-so-many-san-francisco-walgreens-locations-closing
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Yup. Same reason "food deserts" exist. Petty crime aint so petty after all.
 
Most theft is is caused by workers inside the business.

Anyone with a business knows that.

This thread is to justify stop and frisk
 
Celticguy said:
Holy crap.... how do they stay in business ?
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because they get their products overseas pennies on the dollar, mark it up 150-200%, write off the theft, pay little to no taxes, pay slave wages and BAM........capitalism at it's finest works as designed.
 
cawacko said:
I can't imagine stores want employees to physically confront thieves. Ultimately you'd have to put armed guards in every store and that's a huge expense (although my be minimal compared to the amount they are losing in goods).
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There's a security person at a local CVS.
 
TTQ64 said:


because they get their products overseas pennies on the dollar, mark it up 150-200%, write off the theft, pay little to no taxes, pay slave wages and BAM........capitalism at it's finest works as designed.
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Dont know much about retail do you ?
Walgreens profit margin is 2.5%.
 
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